Laura Bush killed someone when she was 17 years old.
I'm tired of everyone letting her forget that fact...an I'm here to remind you.
Condaleeza Rice was sleeping with George Bush, as she referred to him as her husband...on several occasions.
This born again crap of his is just that...as he had 2 gf's that had abortions, and he believes it's ok to kill people as long as it makes Cheney rich.
A very high-level official has claimed that Bushco did in fact do 9/11....this is America hate taken to a whole new level.
It's time for you to face who the real haters and demons are.
Can't do that.
There is no let-up from the other side....
My fairness meter just exploded.
Running over someone with your car....inviting a Rapper to the white house....you decide which is worse.
A rapper who loves cop killers. Cool.
To earn your rapping stripes you have to espouse certain things. Virtually none of them wholesome or mainstream.
LMC - we agree on a lot of things, but come on now - don't sink to their level...
Okay, so exactly why are you allowed to post a forum topic with clear libelous commentary when it is not even possible to post a hub that might be considered negative to any member of the liberal party as a group, much less an individual, that is supported by rigourous external sources?
Do enlighten me. Even aged hubs with sources, not hype, are being unpublished, but you can write this crap about Condaleeza Rice and George and Laura Bush, and Bush 'doing' 911'?
That's right. Just like I have to read everyday about how Obama hates America...and now it's his wife too!
And all Democrats of course...America-Hating Communist Marxist Bums.
You don't like the same treatment?
This was my post, how does it relate to your response, I am confused........
"Okay, so exactly why are you allowed to post a forum topic with clear libelous commentary when it is not even possible to post a hub that might be considered negative to any member of the liberal party as a group, much less an individual, that is supported by rigourous external sources?
Do enlighten me. Even aged hubs with sources, not hype, are being unpublished, but you can write this crap about Condaleeza Rice and George and Laura Bush, and Bush 'doing' 911'?"
can you prove that President and Mrs. Obama hate America?
Then that is a Libelous statement.
And it's not only me who knows what Rice and George did. Just a lot who will not face the truth--not my problem. Yours.
And it's common knowledge that Laura Bush ran someone over with her car.
C'mon..you know if Michelle had done it--you people would have never let up.
Same as I can see what you all would do if one of the Obama's daughter's had been a pregnant teenager....OMG--that would have been brutal!
Same way as I know had Bush been the one sitting in Obama's seat now---you would be all over yourselves with pride and happiness.
Your side says libelous things every day.
What do you want in return? Falling at your feet? Apparently so.
Put words in someone else's mouth. And support your own with facts. Nothing you have to say warrants a response. I truly forgot that.
Glad you remember it now.
Go on about your business.
And you do the same, and pleae do it with great jest.
Update: Oops, I really meant to say do it with great Zest....... Nighty night, have a series of so called rap poems to finish, trying for a White House gig next season....but, oops, since when is rap lyric poetry, or any other music lyrics????????????? Well, just burn me for being so ignorant about modern concepts of poetry. Just when tid they change.
Should I still be reading "The New Yorker", are Common's poems published therre? Probably not, grammar and structure are rather an issue.
Typing this without my glasses, do hope it is grammatically correct, and the spelling is clear......
......it wouldn't matter for most rappers though.......would it be new art? new speclling? new grammar? if I were temporarily famous?
It's poetry of the struggle.
The struggle to live in a country populated with a-holes and truth-deniers and uppity attitudes.
Rock and Roll used to be the same. People need an outlet for the injustice, ugliness and criminality done in the name of something noble.
It's an outlet, and apparently something you don't understand.
Like when that quacking duck sang "God bless the USA", after the USA killed 3,000 of her own...and all the duped were cheering and yelling for the people who did it...that kind of thing makes me want to throw up.
So--yes, I appreciate rap music and hip hop. Some of the lyrics will break yout heart.
But of course, people do all they can to discredit it, as they always do when something gets too close to the truth.
Hmmm, don't recall country music getting discredited for being so truthful, have heard of folks refusing to listen to it because it was so truthful and so made them sad, heartache pains and all that ......could that (lack of discredit) be because country music doesn't talk about shooting down folks on a regular basis? Certainly, there is some violence, the Marty Robbins' ballads (actual true poetry many of them) did have some violence, but mostly romantically based, not wholesale slaughter of 'who done me wrong' in someone's fevered and misfiring imagination.
You have no clue what you are talking about. None.
Which rap do you listen to?
Or do you just hear from Faux what rap is all about?
How about this one:
"Gotta get down to it, soldiers are cutting us down. Should have been done long ago. What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground? How can you run when you know?"
Why does truth bother you?
I've listened to more than enough rap hauling teenagers around. Preach to the close-minded, not to me, and anyone can selectively find one statement (or lyric) to support most any position.
Exactly what they did to Common.
Took something out of context to smear him...the specialty of the right.
Meanwhile, it's pretty hard to miss the inference here: "Tell Obama to suck on this! He's a POS! And Hilary is a frigid b*tch and can ride on this."--Ted Nugent, Tea-Party mouth-piece and rock and roller extraordinaire.
Good friend of Hannity....no word of dismay from Fox about his words...he's a frequent contributor actually!
Know why? Cause he disparages Obama like they all do. So HIS disgusting debasing sentiments are ignored, and even high-fived!!
Hypocricy on display. On a daily basis. Yuk.
Nugent a frequent contributor to Fox? Had no idea. Interesting. We'll all check that out. Fortunately, Huckabee is not running, I've only ever seen Nugent there back in the early days of Huck's quite boring Fox news program.
What strikes me tonight quite potently, I can be kind of slow, is your actual headline, your forum topic, your words, that "Bush's Hate America, Too". Is that some acceptance, that you did not even realize, that the Obama's and many other liberals actually do Hate America?
Please let us know. Despite all the vitriole, one always hopes it is just smoke, that Mechelle just misspoke in the moment, etc... we can all do that -- but your forum title, much moreso than your empty and baseless and hateful words about Laura Bush, are perhaps the most critical words of interest and issue to be discussed...........
I await your thoughtful response.
I almost had to laugh when I read this. I thought the same thing at least a dozen times
over the last few days. From a liberal's perspective it is the most natural thing in the world to hate the USA. So why wouldn't President Bush hate the USA too?
Prove they hate America, OK
Mrs Obama: "I am finally proud to be an American" Where do I begin. I guess she was not proud of the civil rights movment, Not pround of when we stepped on the moon, Not proud when 1980 hockey team beat Russia then went on to win gold, not proud of Jesse Owens sticking it to Hitler in the Olyimpice hosted by Germany, not proud of all the inventions Americans made to better the world, not proud of our charites that always come to the adi of someone or some country in need. Do I need to go on.
Gave speeches overseas belittling the United States, stating his embaressment then apologizing, never wearing an American flag lapel until his polls were going down and threatening his election to the oval office, never salutes the marine when getting on or off Air Force One, I could go on but do I need to.
This is your opinion...not proof at all.
Because I have the exact opposite opiion...does that prove that I am right?
Because we could do volumes on how I believe the Rabid Right hate America and anything decent....but that would also be my opinion only.
Like when Beckles the Evil Clown said President Obama has a deep-seated hatred of whaite people.
How's that clown know that?
He doesn't know enough to not have a vid of him on you-tube SHOWING his fake crying act!!
Does that prove that he's a dweeb? Does to me...probly not you.
It's therefore not proof.
Chris, here is a real interesting link:
[PDF] George Bush: The Unauthorized BiographyFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acroba:
www.gatecreepers.com/.../George%20Bush%20-- %20The%20Unauthorised%20Biography.pdf - Similar
Ooooh, no kidding! I didn't get that particular piece of material yet....but this is vewwwwy interesting!!
http://www.gatecreepers.com/entries/twe … -rules-of/
the link says the article does not exist. Is the link right? would like to read it
She does not see facts if they are not lined her way! can you not see that? She has one million conspiracy theories and just goes to show what the far left is! If LMC put in as much energy into a career as she does here she would be rich and a republican! but she rather complain and blame others.
Complain and Blame, thats the Dems way. Did I not see that in a talking points memo the Dems put out
I can not say dems because I'm a dem! these far left socialist took over the party! not many real democrats left. I do not want to switch my party after 45 years. and I do not believe Repubs are that much better. Conservative yes! and right now we need to be conservative.
Then stop letting rich beyond rich rich people take our money. What kind of conservatives waste like that?
Here Russhhhh--you need 2 mil more, so that old man who worked all his life will have to skrimp and save.
You people aren't conservative, you're the most wasteful people on the planet!
Give more to those who have more, take more form those who have less.
And look who's complaining!! Can't stand talk about your precious Rethugs, but you have ALL kinds of crap theories about Democrats....
And I will say it again: no Dem in their right mind would have a man-crush on Beckles the Evil Clown!
Allrighty then, you say "our money"? Just where do you think the money that supports half the population of this country via social programs comes from exactly? Your money? Just how are they "taking" your money? By not giving "you" more of THEIR money?
Can you believe that? LMC actually thinks it is her money! this just goes to show the mentality of the socialist! never mind actually earning it. I said this many times, If LMC actually dedicated herself to working as much as she devotes all her hatred for the rich she would be rich and then singing a different tune!
I'm really getting tired of having to school you Capitalists on everything.....*sigh*......my work never ends'''''
Taxes you pay=our money
Taxes I pay=our money
Taxes we all pay=our money.
See? It's not that hard to understand wee Capitalists!
Funny, for Capitalists--you sure seem to think you deserve everything for free!
You wouldn't say that to a businessman would you? Give me your products for free?
Oh no--you say "charge the most you can....make that profit."
Yet, when it comes to running a country--you misers want to have everything handed to you on a gilded plate.
Sorry--it doesn't work that way.
You live here, you pay taxes.
You get benefits and a pretty nice life.
Stop whining....or I'll turn you in to O'Reilly, and he'll have to give you a tongue-lashing like he did John Stewart....Ooooooops--that was the other way around Go John!!
You are advocating Capitalism? Wow............ and Capitalism makes all the revenue "our money", wow.....again, mind boggling.....who knew?????? And if those who DON'T wish to beat their brains out and wear their bodies out trying to get ahead and finally have a damn good job and Pay those capitalistic taxes, are deserving of 'Their' money from those workers who are aforementioned who do work very hard for a living......okay, I clearly understand now.
Hmmm.......just where does a socialistic society fit in this picture........??? LOL
No--I'm making fun of capitalists.
I meant "wee", as in wee bonnie lass, wee bonnie laird....a colloqialism.
And I would say to you, as to your other capitalist/right-wing friend: you understand nothing.
ps; hardest workers in the world usually don't have a lot of money.
For some reason, the more money you make, the less hard you have to work....isn't that why everyone strives to get rich?
Really good point about Laura Bush, LMC.
If Michelle Obama killed someone with her car (God forbid it was a white person) we would NEVER hear the end of it.
Wanting to make our country the best it can be is not "hate."
America does have a lot to be proud of, historically.
But we can't rest on our laurels.
There is much that needs correcting and there will always be challenges.
It is naive and frankly, unpatriotic to say we are "exceptional" and don't change a thing cuz we're the greatest country on earth booyah.
BTW, wearing a flag pin is not and never has been the litmus test of patriotism.
Look at actions, not gestures.
You are correct, a flag pin on its own is not a sign of patriotism, However, refusing to wear on as Obama did early on, goes along way to stating you are not a patriot, He only put it on afetr it was an issue and his polls were going down
He put it on to cater to the baby righty's-- as we all have been doing!!!
Everything centers around the baby right.
Enough! You all can grow up and realize that we do not rule by you and you alone. There are other people in this world besides just YOU.
flag/pin/rah rah do NOT a patriot make!
Actions speak louder than empty words and empty gestures.
Obama going to meet the coffins of soldiers speaks more.
Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Biden's new initiative for military families speaks volumes.
Who cares if you wear a pin while you lie cheat and steal?
Exactly. After Bushco, wearing the flag pin has almost become a negative.
Like those "Support Our Troops" ribbon stickers people plastered to their SUVs and trucks during the Iraq War. You don't see them any more -- tell me these people have stopped supporting our troops? Of course not. That is simply no longer the government party line being dictated to potential dissenters.
Obama is not a jingoistic leader.
His fault seems to be that he underestimates how dogged his detractors are in pursuing any/every means of discrediting him.
Hence producing his long form birth certificate days before pulling off the anti-terrorism coup of the century.
Now THAT's booyah-worthy!!!
Yes--he's a subtle one....sly like a fox, but gentle as a lamb.
They underestimate him.
...You aint' seen nothing yet.
Speak softly, but carry a big stick. They roused a sleeping nice guy! and sleeping nice people (seniors) ahaha
Well, you know what they say about black men...
(race card, race card, race card)
Gotta chuckle at that one, hottopics.
I don't think you meant to post it 3x but maybe you did, just to emphasize the point:-).
Obama's race is a big old elephant in the room. If you acknowledge it, you're wrong. If you pretend it's not there, you're wrong. If you think it's his #1 defining characteristic, you're dead wrong. If you think it doesn't matter at all, you're probably wrong there, too.
I cannot speak for everyone in the US (boy, I sure wish I could tho! ). But I do imagine there are folks out there who are uncomfortable having a black man (even 1/2 black) as our president. Just as, when we finally break the sexism barrier and elect a woman, there WILL be people who discount her simply on the basis of her sex.
It's not right, it's not fair. But it is.
You are right, I do not know why it did that, I only posted it once.
You are right, but racism goes many way. But they are in the minority these days. It will take several more generations to hopefully end raqcism. It does get better every generation. But for now there are those who will jump on that bandwagon every chance they get
What is race? Why is Obama Black? His African father abandoned him with his white mother. He was raised by a white liberal from the Great Plains and her white parents in a wealthy household. His only father figure was a wealthy Indonesian man. He attended the best schools in Indonesia, Hawaii and later, one of the best Universities.
This gives weight to the idea that he has more in common with George W. Bush(or Bill Clinton - if you wish) than with Jesse Jackson.
Obama does not go and meet the coffins, That was Bush. Obama made it OK for cameras to film it when Bush said no. How can Obama be there when he is on the road campaining all the time. Example was yesterday. Obama was in Conneticet when a transport came home carrying three service men that died in Afganistan recently. They showed it on CSPAN
Bulloney--I watched it!
I also watched him at the cemetary, and at 9/11 after fake Osama was killed, and Bush couldn't eb bothered to attend.
You might think Bush is some great patriot, I don't.
HE did not want you to know what a horror-show war is...USA USA USA rahrahsisboombah
Obama is doing things for soldiers and veterans, whether YOU acknowledge it or not.
Here's what the military did under Bush:
I've never been so glad to see an adm go.
So you think I did not watched. What the F**k do you kinow. Do you have a crystal ball showing you what I do all day? I have lost total respect for you. That was the last time you call me a liar. It must be tough going through life with blinders on and a closed mind. Remember, you were the one that said "I refuse to read anything" At least I read and look at your clips before responding. I guess you do not have to, you must be clervoyant. At least I served this country as first responder and was at WTC on 911. WHat have you ever done. NOTHING!!!. And what do you offer as proof for your position. A video of a hero that wants something for what he did. He was recognized but he himself says many times in the clip, what did I get out of it. HE talks of his life and family. It becomes apparrent what he wants, big money. Why should he be entitled there were thousand of Soldiers there in harms way and thousands did not make it home. If there are paydays to be had it is for the families who lost loved ones and have to struggle because the bread winner is gone. This guy just wants someone to take care of him. Once more, no evidence, just retoric.. By the way, I never said Bush was a great patriot, He has my respect, which is more than Obama has. And why do you dog Bush for not going, Clinton said no as well. But you stay silent on that one!!. Bush and Clinton did the right thing. It was not there place or moment to be there. It was not for Obama either but he wanted to campain. Like I said before, If he wanted to pay respects at WTC, he had 2 1/2 years to go there while he was in NY on numerous trips and 1 date night at taxpayers expense. He did not even drive past the site. FACT!!!
No kidding. AARP has officially seized "Don't Tread on Me" from the Tea Party.
The last 24 hours and more have seen posts that are mind-boggling, full of hate, full of twisted rhetoric, full of falsehoods.
I am so very ashamed for my fellow Americans who speak with such vitriole against any President and his wife (First Lady), one would think they perhaps have an inside line to the truth and nothing but, and we should believe them, and actual facts and history and knowing be damened, particularly this countries knowing of the beauty of the heart and life of Barbara Bush.
If you have such an inside view to actual facts, do disclose this close friendship, your sources. If not true, then why is this thread given hubpage blessing to continue? Actual hubs with factual backing are shut down now due to Opinions of some segments of this forum/hub purvue, who find anything reomotely anti-liberal as "hate speech".
Just what is this forum topic? From the get go, the forum topic is hate speech IMO, and beyond question many of the 'supporting' posts.
Double standard? Yes.
And just what do any of us on the other side do about this? Nothing. There is nothing we can do accept shut up according to current best advice, the boogie man may destroy you if you speak. Is that the America we want to live in? To leave for our children, grandchildren, and beyond? Do you?
Don't tyrants always deserve such?
Yeah. I have felt the sting of irrational accusations. No big deal. We fight where we can.
I hate the term hate speech. If you don't like someone's speech then counter it with your own.
You righty's never get it.
This thread was in response to LL's smear campaign towards the Obama's.
After a while, I just have enough...get it?
You like to think you're all very smart, and I'm so stupid. But truthfully--I just reach a point where your total lack of class makes me boil.
I wan't raised in a barn, you see.
BTW--the thing about Laura is true.
It's just that the Dems have enough class to leave it alone....unlike you repubs--who LOOK for things to bash people with. And then turn it all out of context in order to denigrate someone on a very personal level.
Well--I'm sick of it, and the constant barrage made this response.
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