Kansas Rep Pete DeGraaf Compares Rape and Flat Tires...What!!!?

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   DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years ago

   Please read and share with me the total disgust and revulsion I feel for this man.  And thank you, Pete DeGraaf for making South Carolina seem a little less stupid and backward today...
   
   
   http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2011/05/pet … t_tire.php

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      SunSevenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      What other hubbers have got to do with it?, Since you posted it in the hubbers hang out.
      
      I firmly believe that this post belongs to the politics section. Or is HP (this forum) is the place to discuss what American Political gossip only?
      
      Perhaps I can post links here on whats happening in my countries? ( I hold dual citizenship )
      
      

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   Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago

   Gee...I just knew what party he would belong to

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   SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

   ...shazam him....what an idiot...wonder how many tires will be sent to him....he can pile them on the roof of his trailer....

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   Disturbiaposted 6 years ago

   I don't even know how to respond to this.  The man is an idiot.   Since he's never going to get pregnant under any circumstances, he will never be able to understand what he's talking about.

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   Patty Inglish, MSposted 6 years ago

   I think any "abortion-only" insurance policy is going to be very expensive, another way of exploiting a specific population for money.

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   stclairjackposted 6 years ago

   moraly repugnant ass,... just another dumb smug self ordained morron,... no other words for such idiocy,... i'm ashamed to b a repblican,... but i'm used to that these days

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      DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I'm with you on that one, stclair!

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   SunSevenposted 6 years ago

   Perhaps we should change the name to American Hubbers hangout?

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      DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I'll move it if it'll make you happy!   But I don't think rape and the acceptance of it is confined to just America.  And I don't think this is just politics or even American politics, but the way women are viewed as a whole by certain people.

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         Lisa HWposted 6 years ago in reply to this

         I'd agree with you, DIY, about the whole point you were trying to make here. I don't think it should be moved, and I think the fact that HubPages is an American company run by Americans in America would, without officially specifying "American", be a "given" on the forums here, as well as on any other part of the site.  I'm not suggesting that non-Americans shouldn't be welcomed or feel welcomed - only that they know it's an American site when they sign up, and that a lot of American talk is going to be going on here.  Besides, just because a politician said it, it doesn't mean it's only political.

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            DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Well, it got moved to "Politics and Social Issues", but I don't think it's so much a political issue, but maybe it fits into "I'm A Complete Idiot And Unfortunately Some Misguided People Gave Me A Platform To Voice My Viewpoints"!
            
            Surely America's not the only country where women are disgusted with people who think rape is such a given they should EXPECT it to happen to them at any given moment!

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               John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

               It may not be a political issue but it most definitely is a social issue,

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                  DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Amen, and evidently one that we still haven't gotten past yet!

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                     John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                     I was wondering (rather too flippantly) if he was suggesting that women should arm themselves with tire levers for protection, sorry.

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                        DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                        i like that idea!  And hit 'em where it hurts!

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   I am DB Cooperposted 6 years ago

   First of all, I understand why someone who is pro-life would be against any form of support for abortions, even in rape cases. I don't agree with it (since I'm pro-choice), but I understand it. In fact, it makes a lot more logical sense than saying you're pro-life but with an exception in instances of rape. After all, a fetus conceived by rape is as human as a fetus conceived consensually, is it not? If a fetus should be granted certain rights, as the pro-lifers believe they should, then why should certain fetuses be denied those rights? 
   
   Second, what business does this politician have telling private insurance companies what they can and can't cover? As long as the medical procedure is legal, the government shouldn't be telling a private insurer what they are allowed to include under general coverage. Republican politicians don't want a smaller government, they want a perverse government, hiding in our bedroom closet, in our doctor's office, and even in the fine print of our health insurance policies, always waiting to pop out and tell us we're doing something naughty.

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      Jeff Berndtposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "what business does this politician have telling private insurance companies what they can and can't cover? "
      I know, right? Free market and all that. Except when one doesn't approve of the product or service, of course...

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   DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years ago

   I guess the most distressing part of this message for me is that he's saying women should be expecting and prepared to be raped...just like being prepared for a flat tire, so you carry a tire iron. Haven't we gotten past this kind of cave man mentality by now?

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      recommend1posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I take offense at your comment on behalf of cavemen !  There is considerable evidence that those people lived in close communities in the stone age where mutual protection and support are clearly the driving forces behind families, groups, and tribes.  It takes a special kind of education, indoctrination and erosion of human values in a society to produce the kind of thinking this guy is spokesman for.  This erosion of humanity may be a defining element of evil.

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         DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

         You are right, recommend1!  I was insulting cavemen everywhere when I made that comment!  Let's see, what's lower than a worm?

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            recommend1posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            This guy displays characteristic thinking that an animal is incapable of, it takes a concentrated effort to think so far into stupidity.

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      Jeff Berndtposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "I guess the most distressing part of this message for me is that he's saying women should be expecting and prepared to be raped"
      It's right up there with Clayton Williams' disgusting comment equating rape and bad weather.

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         DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

         Oh, you mean this one...
         
         "As long as it’s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it."
         
         Yeah, the same screwed up thought process.  The both deserve a tire iron upside the head!

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    DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years ago

    He may have been practicing for awhile now. 

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