We get blamed for this because we help fund it

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   Evan G Rogersposted 13 years ago

   Just a reminder that these attacks from Israel that kill innocents
   
   http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/News/Fun … &or=tn
   
   Are partially the fault of the US - we've been funneling millions (billions?) of dollars to subsidize their defense.
   
   It's called blowback.

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      Moderndayslaveposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      People don't like the truth,,,,,,,,How dare you
      http://mantiqaltayr.wordpress.com/2011/ … s-whoring/

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         claptonaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         What a bunch of hogwash - they attacked Israel - which did the right thing, retaliated without care of who got killed.
           Same way we behaved and the last war we won - WWll.
           Who thinks war is a game?
            You shoot Israelis, and as in the past, they shoot back with better aim.
         Palestinians are like the American public - a bunch of whimpering pansies.
           Cheers,
           John D. Wilson

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      DonDWestposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You're the first person right of centre I've come across who opposes the evil and hypocricy that's Isreal, much respect.

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         claptonaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Now, let me get this straight - the Arabs attack a bus driving in Israel and wound 7 people.
           Because Israel is not afraid to fight, they strike back, fully blowing up the area so it will not happen again, any time soon.
           Since the Arabs struck first, you blame Israel for defending itself?
           Are you some sort of idiot who believes the Arabs are a peaceful group?
           I'd level 50 KM of dessert around all the borders of Israel with bombs - that might send a message of "Quite attacking us, or if you do, we will kill more men, women and children. "
           Nothing has changed in Israel's approach to violence - they over kill - and God bless them for it!
           Cheers

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            DonDWestposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            60 years of occupation is an indefensible position. You don't have the moral high ground. I'm running out of energy trying to reason with the unreasonable. So, when are you going to shout out anti-semite until my ears bleed? You're boring, keep parroting the lines and your scripts. . .
            
            Anyways, I keep on telling myself that people such as you will soon become irrelevant due to the virtue of Darwinism. People incapable of free thinking are about to get hit real hard, real soon, the way the world is going right now. . .

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               claptonaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Join the Jihad - spout your hatred for your fellow man like the Arabs who slaughter their own people.
                 No need to talk about anti semite with a person who defends the most murderers of women and children  in todays world by Arabs and Palestinians.
                 Look at Iraq, look at Afghanistan - mass murders every day by the people you support.
                 Israel ought to just wipe out the Arabs close to them so they can live in peace - men, women and children.
                 Lebanon, Egypt and Syria -bomb them to until there are no Arabs left, and then the Jews can go in and make productive land out of the whole area.
                 Cheers

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                  DonDWestposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Yeah, that's right, a great genocidal holocaust all in the name for "God's Chosen People." And you called me a Jihadist for disagreeing with racial supremacism? How original! You're a troll and a disgusting immoral, evil, filthy Zionist! I checked your bio, you're 60+ years old, tout the war horns when you're of an age young enough to fight them! Arm chair!

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   thooghunposted 13 years ago

   We would also do well to "remind" ourselves of the enormous amounts of aid by institutions like USAID. Let's call it "blow-in". This also is a "truth", and if anything, is equally overlooked. You can't flaunt one and forget the other. If you want to have an "on-balance" discussion that's another story.
   
   Personally, I will not burden myself with events that are not a direct consequence of my intentions or actions. What a sad life it would be otherwise. Are we then responsible for the twisted actions of others, simply because we happened to be brought up in the same country? I can see why many would choose to see it that way, however.
   
   Let's take the analogy of a terrorist; are we to blame (blowback) for the ensuing carnage? No, his actions are his alone, and I will not sheepishly allow anyone to parallel us. Do we blame Salman Rushdie for writing a work of fiction that inlcudes potentially blasphemous Koranic elements, or do we blame the bloodlust and savage intolerance of those who plot his murder?

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   princess gposted 13 years ago

   Sad

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   DonDWestposted 13 years ago

   As for the "attack" on the Isreali buses, it's called a false flag operation. It's in Isreal's interest to maintain the conflict. If the Likud government has to kill or injure a few of it's own citizens to do it; they will. That attack doesn't serve the interests of the Palestinians at all who were in the process of negotiating their own state with thwe U.N. Unfortunately, people are by far too naive. They see what they want to see. . .

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      Repairguy47posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The Israelis did it to themselves? With all the love coming from Hamas you may be right.

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   Evan G Rogersposted 13 years ago

   I'm not really supporting one side or the other with this forum.
   
   I'm simply saying that the US is going to be partially blamed for these types of attacks because we help fund it.
   
   Note: We also give millions (perhaps billions) to Israel's enemies.

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      claptonaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      So, how much do we give to the Palestinians? Are we also going to be blamed for the shooting of the people of Israel?
        This is stupid - why would anyone object to retaliation for shooting of innocent people.
        If the Palestinians want to stop getting bombed, stop shooting Israel's citizens.
        Or is that to difficult to figure out?
        Cheers,
        John D. Wilson

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         Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Are we getting blamed for the shooting of the people in Israel? Yeah, probably.
         
         Sorry If I pissed people off by posting this - it was just the biggest story about our foreign policy leading to death when I opened google.news.
         
         We borrow money from the Chinese so that we can pay countries money so that they can attack other countries that we also give money so that they can retaliate.
         
         It makes no sense.

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   Stump Parrishposted 13 years ago

   How stupid is it really, America objected to some guys flying planes into the twin towers in retaliation for America killing hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children. Are you saying that America should have just sat back and accepted what happened? No of course not, it's always a little different when it's your country and your people under attack. Very few Americans were outraged at the slaughter of Iraqi children. They get all up in the air about some starving kids in Africa and yet don't say a word to save an Iraqi kid from intentional poisoning by our government. I guess if the Iraqi parents want there kids to live they should simply roll over and play dead when America comes to rape and plunder their towns. See John, it wasn't that hard to figre out what you were saying.

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      claptonaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I do not think they should play dead - I think we should help them along the way to that point.
        Would not bother me in the least - Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran - all would be better off with fewer people.
        Fewer people means less to allow to carry bombs into public places to blow themselves up. We should help them along that avenue - without the bombs attached to themselves.
        Cheers

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   Stump Parrishposted 13 years ago

   If Americans want to stop getting blown up in suicide bomb attacks, stop killing the innocent men women and children in iraq and afghanastan. Or is that too difficult to figure out?
   It appears you have a dual standard when it comes to the killing of innocents people. You dislike it when it's those on your side getting slaughtered and not so much when it's those you consider to be fair game.
   
   Too bad these people had the misfortune to be born atop a natural resource the decent people of the world ie Americans, have decided they deserve and need. How many times has the US been attacked by a muslim country? How many Americans died as a result of all these attacks combined? How many innocent muslim men, women and CHILDREN have been killed by America in our 20 year+ assault on their lands? Who the F&*k is the problem here?
   
   Do you actually believe that if America had been under constant assault for 20+ years, no Americans would be standing up to the people who invaded our country? The red necks would have been mobiled in the first week. The American civilian population would be conducting the same types of raids and guess what, a lot of them would be carrying religious flags and praying to god before and during battle. I care just here the Long Live GOD calls right after the Death to WTF ever country it is invading our shores. Too many people refuse to consider how damned justified these people are for any and all attacks they carry out. They use what ever means they have to fight for their land. We as a country are seriously pissed when a suicide bomber blows up an american soldier. Very few Americans consider the state of mind of the person who has watched his entire family be slowed killed off by Americans, for a bunch of damned oil. Entire towns have been poisoned to death and America gets pissed when people act in the same manner they would, if the situations were reversed. 
   
   There is one sign that the liberals are going to stand up again and save our country. I heard they had the first topless day in NYC> This is the modern day equivilent of the bra burnings in the 60's. The hippies are about to rise up and save America like they did in the 70's. I hope the war mongers realize that they are responsible for what's about to happen. The hippy beads are being dusted off once again. Peace is a comin'

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      Sourpussposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes it is! Out with the old....and I mean OLD. An ancient system so horrid and vile. Fulford calls it Babylonian Debt-Slavery (or something like that)
      
      Did you notice the We Are Ohio movement? It was YOUNG people! 1.3 million YOUNG PEOPLE, saying NO to the corporate take-over of their state!
      
      Prez Obama is my age......got dam it's good to be alive!

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