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Who Are The Real Animals In This Video?

  1. SpanStar profile image59
    SpanStarposted 6 years ago

    The video regarding the treatment of cows is extremely graphic so I cause you not to watch if you're not to being shocked and disgusted.

       http://thepolicenews.net/default.aspx?a … group=Home

  2. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Without having to watch the video link you provided, I curious...what's your point?

    It is often said that a society is ultimately judged by how it treats its most vulnerable members.

    The above is the first sentence of the article/video you linked to. The most vulnerable member of human society isn't an animal. It's a homeless person.

    1. SpanStar profile image59
      SpanStarposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I guess my point is have we as people lost all our humanity?  Do we don't need to weight what's important about caring if we can help and we can help we should help but behave like an animal, what does that make us?

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Bad perception on your part. Individuals can lose their humanity, but don't put ALL into your statement.
        It makes that particular individual appear to be acting like an animal.

        Again, what's your point?

        Cows are animals, which provide sustainable and necessary things for the human species. The importance of the survival of the human species would be above the survival of any individual animal.

        1. SpanStar profile image59
          SpanStarposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Don't agree with you at all.  We as human being decided that animals would be good to eat-We made that choice it isn't a universal law.

          We who are suppose to have morals should have the ability to rise above the level of unfeeling treatment of others be they man or animal.

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Good for you, be a vegetarian and see how well you do.
            Really? There are nutrients and vitamins that are gained from eating the meat of animals. If you become a vegetarian, your body will miss out on something and you will be forced to find supplements, which are manufactured by humans, so you can sustain your life.
            Unfeeling treatment? What exactly is unfeeling treatment? Clarify?

            1. SpanStar profile image59
              SpanStarposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              The fact of the matter is, animal foods is what cause the humanbody to be faced with so many medical problems.

              I do envy vegatarians

              Unfeeling is when one can stand by while a woman is being raped or someone is being beaten then turn around and head for Burger King or the like.

              1. Cagsil profile image61
                Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                The only reason it's a cause for many medical problem is because of ignorance on behalf of the eater, so please.
                So you're not a vegetarian then? And, there's nothing to envy.
                That's an extreme case. I meant with regards to your topic. Duh? roll

                I know what unfeeling treatment of human is, I watch it daily, and all I have to do is turn on the TV.

                1. SpanStar profile image59
                  SpanStarposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I you know unfeeling then what are you asking me to clarify for.  Unfortunated when we're coming up we can decide until later on in life what we want to eat by that time we're already indocutrinated with foods and customs.

                  Well I'm not a doctor but I've read enough to know there is some truth to the medical articles that do point to animal products as a health risk and though it won't matter to you it wasn't so long ago I read a Denny's menu that pointed out right on the menu that foods like eggs sunnyside up can cause in humans animal dieases.

                  1. Cagsil profile image61
                    Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    I asked you to clarify with regard to your topic. Not about how humans treat other humans. I thought I made that simple to understand in my previous post.
                    Which is easily broken by making a willful choice to do so.
                    Eggs if consumed in high amounts can be harmful. This isn't any doubt and plenty of studies have been done on it, however, again that just speaks about the ignorance of the eater. wink

            2. John Holden profile image60
              John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Not true. Everything needed for healthy growth is available from a vegetarian diet. The myth of the second class protein has been exposed as just that, a myth.
              I've been a veggie for nigh on thirty years now and never had to take a supplement.

              1. Cagsil profile image61
                Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Actually, it's not, if the eater is ignorant.
                I would say that, but this topic isn't about being a vegetarian.
                It's not about a second class protein. Duh.
                Good for you.

                1. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Why introduce it then?

                  1. Cagsil profile image61
                    Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    I didn't. I originally was talking about how humans use animals as a food source.

        2. habee profile image96
          habeeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          There are quick and merciful ways to kill animals used as food. Cattle don't need to be tortured and live miserable lives to provide food for humans.

          1. SpanStar profile image59
            SpanStarposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Habee you are so right and this video is just a shameful example of how no one should be treated.

          2. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Yes there is and I'm sure it's done.
            Anything that a human would restrict the movement of an animal, for anything at all, would be considered torture.

            When you cage an animal that isn't originally meant to be caged- it is torture.

            So that means, when humans decided to domesticate cats and dogs, it was for selfish reasons and they should have left them alone with to begin with.

            1. SpanStar profile image59
              SpanStarposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              You made think this is shocking-I do-but I agree with you.

              I don't go to the circle for the very reasons you mentioned.  I don't need to see for example a bear doing tricks- leave them where nature placed them.

              1. Cagsil profile image61
                Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Good to know.

            2. habee profile image96
              habeeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Two points:

              When I was married to a cattle rancher, our cattle had free range of hundreds of grassy acres, with shade trees, streams, and ponds. They weren't packed into feedlots like a lot of cattle are.

              Canines benefitted from their association with early man. Hanging around human camps meant food. My dogs are much better off than they would be in the wild. They have food, health care, comfort, and protection. Most wild dogs don't fare well. There's the constant struggle for food, along with disease and predation by larger carnivores. In many places, wild canines are shot, trapped, or poisoned, greatly reducing the average lifespan. African wild dogs and Australian dingos live much longer in captivity than they do in the wild.

              1. Cagsil profile image61
                Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                This is you. Not everyone is like you.

                Habee my dear, dogs also multiply on a much greater level than humans do. They have litters that humans would never have. This argument is no good. Not to mention, as you say, giving the food, health care, comfort and protection, you are prolonging their life span, which only means there are more of them.

      2. Danny R Hand profile image59
        Danny R Handposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        We are what we make of ourselves. And you only have the power to choose what you become, not others. We can teach and be good examples, but ultimately, we only control our own choices.

    2. psycheskinner profile image83
      psycheskinnerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I disagree.  It's illegal to kill a homeless person for sport, to own one as your property.  And non-human animals are members of our society in that they live in our communities and are part of reciprocal interactions.

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        DUH! Where in my statement did you get that? Re-read my words.
        roll You put animals on the same level and give them the same value, the consumption of them would be just a completely horrible act, beyond all thought.

        1. psycheskinner profile image83
          psycheskinnerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Um, no.  I said they are members of our community.  And they are according how the word "community" is typically defined (a unified body of individuals in interaction with each other).  Not every member of a community is literally or morally the same (e.g. felons).

          Therefore the quote applies.  Animals are members of our communities and they are the most vulnerable members due to not holding human rights or being "persons" with standing under the law.

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Humanizing animals. Good for you. roll

            1. psycheskinner profile image83
              psycheskinnerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Nope.  I in no way consider animals to be the same as humans.  I just don't think humans are the only creatures of moral worth and standing. That is the exact kind of thinking that leads to people beating calves to death with hammers. Because they are just animals, so who cares.

              1. Cagsil profile image61
                Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                It's understand what you're saying. And, I'll leave it at that.

  3. habee profile image96
    habeeposted 6 years ago

    I didn't watch the video, but I've viewed similar video clips. Animal cruelty makes me physically ill. I'll never understand how some people get pleasure from the suffering of their fellow earthlings.

  4. SpanStar profile image59
    SpanStarposted 6 years ago

    Cagsil,

       I'll say this about intelligence and get off this issue here because that's not the topic.

       Intelligence is the highest level of comparative degree. 

    Compared to these two humans one would have to say At That Time Erectus would be the most intelligent beings on the planet comparated to Australopithecus or all the other lower forms of life.

        intelligence isn't simply based on modern man's tech books at the time.

    Erectus developed tools, weapons, fire, and learned to cook his own food. He traveled out of Africa into China and the Southeast Asia developing clothing

    Australopithecus afarensis lived between 3.9 and 3.0 million
    with ape like features

    http://www.allaboutcreation.org/stages- … on-faq.htm

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I am not trying to argue with you about it. I'm simply pointing out the fact that just because any individual has an intelligence, that individual doesn't always understand what's right and what's wrong. Some think that because they are intelligent they know what's best and use their intelligence to bring about things that are actually harmful. But you're right this topic isn't about intelligence and I'm done.

  5. Aficionada profile image88
    Aficionadaposted 6 years ago

    I do believe you meant "ignorance on the part of the eater, so please." 


    Actually, ignorance by definition means the state of lacking something specific:  knowledge or training, information or awareness - not merely "lacking something."

    Cagsil, throughout this thread you have made claims and challenges to other people and then when they have refuted your claims, you have come back with the question (or an analogous one) - "What's your point?"  Or you have ignored what they said and just shared more of your opinions.

    The point is that people are trying to help you gain some of the knowledge that you lack and to gain awareness in areas in which you are lacking.  That's one of the great things about HubPages! smile

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Did you understand what I said? If so, then why the correction? 

      No, I wanted to know what the point was, otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question.
      I'm not lacking awareness about the status or stasis of what animals are or mean to humans. But, nice try.

  6. silver lining 5 profile image60
    silver lining 5posted 6 years ago

    disgust is a relative term. lol  I don't care to watch thank you.  Besides I eat veeeerrrryyyyyyyy little meat.  After all the crap they inject those cows with, they probably think death is a blessing.

  7. Aficionada profile image88
    Aficionadaposted 6 years ago

    Ignorance is bliss, eh?

    Where's the smiley for tearing one's hair out?

 
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