RON PAUL has won 11 states!!

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   dagny rothposted 13 years ago

   Is anyone else annoyed that the media isn't even discussing this?  Romney has only won 18 and there are still 11 to go.  They are trying to get him out before the convention but quite frankly I think he deserves more attention.  His following is growing and showing that many people are supporting him and his values.

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      peeplesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The media does what they are told or paid to. I like ron paul but I also know there is no chance they will let him go much further.

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         couturepopcafeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Don't think the media can prevent the people from showing up. Even if they don't air results, he's won 11 states. Hoo-rah!

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         dagny rothposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, but that is the issue...of course they won't give him the time of day, so do you stand by your principals or vote for the guy the media is backing?  Although judging from the results...more are willing to back him regardless..so a good sign?!

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      Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I went to my counties convention the other day and the Ron Paul supporters were extremely disruptive. They had a fanatical zealousness, and they kicked and screamed like a bunch of babies when not a single one of them got in as a delegate for the state convention.

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         lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Funny--I saw just the opposite. Saw 2 people interviewed who said they were hit by Romney supporters. One was a very old man.

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         MrEthiopianposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Onusnus - you complain because Ron Paul supporters are acting like a bunch of over rebellious fanatics, yet even with this inappropriate activity the main stream media refuses too publicize that honest tax paying voting American are using their constitutional right and voting for the candidate that they personally want. You complain about Ron Paul supporters and care noting that your country is being stolen right in front of your very eyes, it sound to me like you hate America.
         
         We should be up in arms, that the RNC is violating their own policy in supporting Romney, whilst brushing off Ron Paul even though more than half of the country wants Dr Paul in office. The GOP and RNC  are rigging the election right in front of you and your either too stupid or simply blind to the fact of what the Constitution and America stands for, time to get your head out of your ass!
         
         
         MrEthiopain
         
         Th3

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         910chrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         From what I saw it was the other way around. Not to mention they picked up about a dozen.

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   lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

   He just quit. So much for all his loyal supporters.
   
   here's an opinion:
   
   WebsterGTarpley‏
   
   "RonPaul drops out of GOP race, betraying supporters to deliver on deal w/ MittRomney to get plum for Rand Paul- can keep moneybomb cash"
   
   He DID make a deal with Mitt...he IS in on the Mormon Mafia....IMO.

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      dagny rothposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You can write him in.  It's still a legal voting right.

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   lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

   so, in conspiracy theory terms......Fulford might have the edge.....He says Mitt is the pick of the NWO.

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   lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

   Webster G Tarpley‏
   
   "Ron Paul in Virginia sabotaged his own campaign to avoid besting Romney 1 on 1 but still got 40%-dropping out now to shield Mitt as per deal"
   
   See if it holds...see if this benefits Rand.....named after ayan rand Paul.

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      innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Rand is short for Randal. You're worse than the MSM!

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         habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         That's right - Randal Howard Paul.

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         lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah---like freedom = your body belongs to the state.

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            innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            The first 'rule' of liberty is right to life, so it's consistent with the view that life begins at conception. Paul does recognise the necessity of abortion as a doctor despite his personal reservations against it. Since it is such a contentious issue, the sensible solution is to let the states decide for now. I don't understand why people bang on about this. Even when letting the states decide, abortion is gradually becoming more accepted anyway. Paul is at least a President that is against a constitutional amendment either way, and with the added bonus of being for liberty in every other area I don't see why you would vote Obama.
            
            Since you're making such a hooh-hah about your body belonging to yourself, and quite rightly so, why not focus in other areas as well? How about legalising all drugs? How about denouncing enforced inoculation and medication? How about the right to choose whether one wants to participate in Obamacare? Or support greater choice of schools? There's a great wealth of violations against the self that it seems kind of redundant to keep going after abortion.

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               Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Yet he does not support same sex marriage? That is not standing for liberty that is pandering to an audience.

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                  innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  He supports getting the government out of marriage altogether, but that doesn't grab the headlines as much as 'Obama comes out for gay marriage' or 'Romney supports the protection of marriage'. It shouldn't even be a political issue!

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                     lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     It's a human rights issue.
                     And it's only political because gvt has allowed religion to run gvt.

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                        innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Yeah so get government out of it. Problem solved. Gay people can do whatever they want and call it whatever they want, and the Christians can take it up with them.

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                           lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Wrong. It is illegal for gay people to be married in most of America. That is why gvt needs to be involved. To make it legal. No one else can do that.

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                              innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              No. Remove the state benefits to married couples and you remove the controversy altogether.

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                                 lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 That's funny! Take away benefits? Oooooh--they'd better not even try. You would see such uproar, it's not even funny.
                                 
                                 Those are priviledges which they don't even acknowledge. Much like business never acknowledges all the priviledges they get from gvt.
                                 
                                 But anyway---It's more a matter of custom and respect if you ask me. A public show of commitment...if you are suggesting we all have civil unions? That may be the better way to go.

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                                    innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    Well that's something we can agree on.
                                    
                                    It doesn't really matter to me what people do since I'm not religious, but benefits to married couples is discrimination against single people.
                                    
                                    
                                    

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                                       lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       AGREE!
                                       
                                       My boss found out the hard way....when she left her husband, he got to claim the kids.....
                                       
                                       She ended up paying taxes, and he didn't. Even though he got the house, the kids, etc...
                                       
                                       She knows what a divorced father goes through.

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                                 Josakposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 That is simply not true, most people do not want same sex marriage just for the governmental privileges but for the sake of equality, of course same sex marriage should be a political issue it's a mandate that currently tells a fair percentage of the population that they have fewer rights than other people, that is a big issue.

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                                    innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    If there are no governmental privileges then the government can not legalise nor criminalise gay marriage. It's simply an issue for people to decide on their own. Get the government out of it altogether.

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               lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Personhood Amendent. He supports it.....Read it. Then you will know.

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                  innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  This amendment does not make abortion illegal, but simply clarifies official definitions of personhood.
                  
                  “We should allow our republican system of government to function as our Founders designed it to: protect rights at the federal level, enforce laws against violence at the state level.” - Ron Paul
                  
                  I'm doing this for the sake of defending Paul's real-lie positions, rather than imagined ones, but I think I would not have the government in it at all. The answer is legalising freedom of association. If you don't like abortion, you don't have to get one nor give one.
                  
                  I would really like to know your take on those other things to do with right to one's self.

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                     lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     "to protect rights at the federal level"
                     
                     This is what the abortion issue is all about!
                     
                     To protect my right to do with my body in my personal life as I see fit. Be that birth control, or abortion. The State has no business forcing me to do anything with my body that is against my will.
                     
                     And giving birth is in that pervue. And taking birth control is my private affair.

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                        innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Okay, point taken. What about the other stuff?

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                           lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           I love Ron Paul for some of his stuff...I really do. As a conspiracy reader for a long time: I say you go Paul! to a lot.
                           But I can't get by his stance on respecting my freedom. To me--that is first and foremost. And for my daughters.
                           
                           That is why he is a Republican, not a Libertarian. Anti-Abortion is in their platform.

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                              innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              He is Republican because he wouldn't get half of the exposure as he would with the Libertarians. His mission is more of an educating mission rather than political action.
                              
                              I don't see why that would be the first priority when there are vast state incursions into private life that kill millions of people under our very noses. The only candidate that begins to tackle that is Dr. Paul.
                              
                              But I was referring to the list I made in an earlier post, like the legalisation of drugs etc.

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   innersmiffposted 13 years ago

   I don't think it's over just yet.
   
   Policy Mic argues:
   "Ron Paul announced today in a letter to supporters that he will not campaign for the popular vote in states that have yet to held their primaries.
   
   In his under-reported IDD strategy (“It’s the Delegates, Dummy”), Paul has focused on the fact that presidential nominees are chosen by delegates, not by popular vote. Paul’s campaign has focused to date especially on states that allow committed Republican Party members to have a greater voice in the process. States like Iowa, Nevada, Maine, Louisiana, Washington, and Colorado have been states where Paul supporters have made tremendous inroads in winning party leadership positions and being influential in the national delegate selection process. While many states have yet to finish the delegate selection process, it increasingly looks like Paul could dominate the nationwide delegate process called long ago in Romney’s favor.
   
   Paul’s announcement today fits that same vein, but will no doubt surprise many of his supporters. Not only is Paul saying “It’s the Delegates Dummy” to Mitt Romney and the national media, he is taking it a step further and saying that spending his supporters’ money on winning the popular vote is of such little importance to the campaign that they aren’t going to waste time or money on that any longer.
   
   Does that mean Paul has dropped out? Quit the race? Suspended his campaign? Packed his bags? Returned home to lil ole Lake Jackson, Texas? No, it means quite the opposite. It means that Paul will have more ability to focus on delegate selection instead of the many upcoming winner take all states."
   
   Anybody saying that he's dropped out of the race severely misunderstands the election process. Let's face it, he is not going to win the popular vote against Mitt, but has a very competitive standing with the delegates, so we'll see when it comes to the convention!

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   cottageindustryposted 13 years ago

   He was a spoiler of the worst kind. He does tell the truth when it comes to the financial situation in this country today. The primary election is practically over and he should just pack his bags and go home to Texas.

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      innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The Republican nomination is not won by popular vote but by the number of delegates collected by the convention. These delegates are unbound so at the convention they will theoretically vote their heart. Since Paul is still in the race and has a competitive number of delegates, it's not worth wasting money campaigning in the remaining primary states. Most of Paul's support comes from non-campaign related things like presentations, Youtube videos, etc.
      
      I don't think Paul will win the nomination. I would have liked to have seen him in a one on one debate with Obama (the scholar VS. the lawyer with the nice smile), but the system is about to collapse, and as Stefan Molyneux argues, if Paul wins the presidency and the country collapses around him, everybody will scream "look what happened when we let a Libertarian get to power!" and that's that for liberty for another few decades.
      
      But in the end it doesn't matter because the seed of liberty has been planted and it's now viral. The statist establishment's days are numbered. I still support teachers like Paul to make the transition as painless as possible, but it's inevitable.

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         dagny rothposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you for so eloquently discussing this topic!

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      910chrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think my 3 year old hit the nail on the head about society and truth. He came running up to me crying the other day and I asked him what was wrong. He goes, "Levi made me cry, he told me the truth!" That is America's mentality in a nut shell.

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   SparklingJewelposted 13 years ago

   I have to admit I am still learning about this delegate business...but I believe enough in Ron Paul to recognize a good and honest person when I see and hear one.
   
   What he is doing for liberty and awakening the people is the best thing going and sorely needed.
   
   Is there really no way he could win the republican nomination?..Not from what I am seeing...but I don't know if I am seeing and understanding it all.

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   dagny rothposted 13 years ago

   What do you think of a write in? Stand by our principals?  Or do we simply vote for the guy we think will win EVEN if he is a moderate....

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   Druid Dudeposted 12 years ago

   I didn't realize there are so many DUMB states.

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