2012 election - whatcha think?

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   habeeposted 11 years ago

   With the latest polls of some swing states, some political "experts" are predicting a possible "mess" like we had in 2000. Which do you think is the most likely outcome? And for those of you on the FAR right or FAR left, tell us what you THINK will happen - not what you WANT to happen. lol
   
   1. Obama wins in a landslide
   2. Obama wins in a squeaker
   3. Romney wins in a landslide
   4. Romney wins in a squeaker
   5. Obama wins popular vote, loses in EC
   6. Romney wins popular vote, loses in EC
   7. Obama and Romney each get 269 EC votes
   
   Right now, I'd vote for #2. Yes, I'm voting for Romney, but if Obama is going to win, I'd rather he win with a landslide. The country is divided enough already.
   
   And yes, I know the election is months away. This is just for fun! We can come back to this thread in November and see who was right. lol. Doesn't that sound like good times to you?

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      910chrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I am sorry but I opt for option 8, neither one of those clowns win and the third party candidate takes the WH. I don't know who the third person will be, but I don't want either one in the WH.

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      Disturbiaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I'm trying very hard NOT to think about the 2012 election. Personally, I can't stand Romney.  I don't trust him and something about him makes my skin crawl.  Of course, I feel the same way about Obama, so I'm seriously thinking about just moving to Aruba.

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         habeeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Aruba? Can I come with?

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            Disturbiaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Sure, you sound like a really fun person.  We could have a blast!

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      American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Four

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      JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think Romney will win by a few %, not a squeaker and not a landslide.
      
      I think there are enough people realizing that we aren't doing as well as Obama is trying to make it look. Obama failed to deliver on a lot of his big promises, and his major achievement might be struck down as unconstitutional(as well it should be).
      
      He can't campaign on change anymore, and does anyone like where we are going?

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      paintphdposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      (No.2) Obama's Lame Duck Presidency will be highlighted by his derelict of duties during his year long campaign absence and his falling approval numbers will be measured in negative integers  by Nov.

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   PrettyPantherposted 11 years ago

   I am a tepid Obama supporter, and I think he will win with a solid majority of the popular vote.  I'm not sure how the EC will play out, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a landslide for Obama.  Romney is a poor candidate, worse than any recent candidate, including Kerry and McCain.  Once Obama and Romney are standing side by side in a debate, the difference between the temperament and character of the two candidates will be stark, and it won't be Romney who shines.
   
   Of course, I could be wrong. 

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      SparklingJewelposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      stark, only in that one is a charismatic lier tool and the other a corporate business tool...that both lie and smooze in their own unique ways for their handlers (the ultra rich of corporations)

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   Angela Blairposted 11 years ago

   I believe Option 2 will prevail. I, personally,  will vote for Romney as I believe him to be the lesser of the evils and obviously would like to see him elected by a landslide. Am I sold on the man or do I believe that will happen? No! It's my contention Obama will win in a squeaker and this country will become more divided than it already is as so many people are already discouraged and disgruntled by the actions of this POTUS and his administration. In my mind this election will ultimately determine the future of the United States as a nation -- will it continue as a capitalist country or one living under the oppression of socialism which many Americans will never accept. The old saying of "United we stand and divided we fall" has never been more appropo. I fear if Obama is in the oval office for another term; America/Americans will only become more divided -- time will dictate whether we stand or fall. Just for the record -- I am neither Democrat nor Republican but an Independent. I love the idea of coming back to this thread in November -- it sounds like fun to me.

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   Mighty Momposted 11 years ago

   A lot depends on a third candidate syphoning off votes from either candidate.
   The young energy is behind Ron Paul this time. But are they energized and organized enough to come out and vote?
   
   The real dirt surrounding rocks is just starting to get thrown.
   In the face to face debates, hard to picture Romney beating out Obama (yes he emerged as teh best in the crowded GOP field but that's kindergarten).
   
   I predict this will be another dirty, dirty race.
   Like watching for the best SuperBowl ads, I will be eagerly awaiting the "zinger" TV ads and videos.
   Whoever claims the best Swiftboaters wins....
   MM

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   DannyMaioposted 11 years ago

   #3 Romney in a landslide!
   
   This president has done absolutely nothing! his policies are awful and he is playing class warfare and fake war on women! Many people I know who have voted for him looking for HOPE and Change do not like what he has done and not voting for him this time around.
   
   A real leader doesn't blame everything and everyone else for failure, they do what is necessary and get the job done just like Clinton did! It was a nice Idea to give him a shot after Bush, but he failed in every way possible.
   
   Romney knows how business works and we need someone with real experience to turn things around before we become GREECE! and 4 more years with this clown and we will certainly be there. We all will have to move to Aruba.

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   Cody Hodgeposted 11 years ago

   Any option suggesting Romney will win is just plain wrong. Anyone who believes Obama isn't a leader, blames everyone else for his actions and has divided the country is wrong. The economy has improved almost every quarter since Obama has taken office.
   
   If you're voting for the GOP, you're voting for the wrong guy.
   
   Is that true? Maybe, maybe not. It's just that the GOP can't have a debate unless it's a black and white one. So I'll help them out.

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      JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Unemployment in 2011 was lower than 2009... according to the government.
      
      There were also less people working in 2011 than in 2009.
      
      Less people working = less unemployment now.
      
      They paint a rosy picture, but we're still a ways off from starting to recover.

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         910chrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Lets not forget that just 2 weeks ago the talking heads said that over 100 million people are not working. Only 62% of American's have a job. Last year the share of young people (16-24) who were employed in July was 48.8 percent, the lowest July
         rate on record for the series, which began in 1948. (The month of July typically is
         the summertime peak in youth employment.) Unemployment among youth increased by 745,000
         between April and July, more than last year’s increase of 571,000, but well below the
         levels seen in 2008 and 2009 (1.2 and 1.1 million, respectively).
         
         This is from August 24, 2011. You can read all of it here:          http://www.bls.gov/news.release/youth.nr0.htm

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 11 years ago

   Seal Team Six takes out Trump in October...
   
   Obama in a landslide.

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   screamingposted 11 years ago

   Obama in a landslide. By election time, people will realize Romney doesn't have the abilities he claims to have. Trickle down economics didnt work with Reagan and it won't with Romney.

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      JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Do you think taxing rich people and corporations at 100% would stimulate job growth?

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         screamingposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Do you think giving them more tax breaks to the rich will create jobs? Isn't that what President Bush did? Lost jobs! And do you think more tax breaks will encourage corporations to bring the jobs home? If you do, I have some ocean front property for sale in Colorado!

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            paintphdposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Tax Breaks to the rich is a myth perpitrated by the blame defletors on the far left. By the time muli-national corporations have been taxed by all fifty states and the feds, many have paid upwards of 60%. If Warren Buffet liquidated all of his holdings out of Tax Defered investments he'd take at least a 60% hit. The wealthy did'nt get us here by spending too much, the fed did. The billions going to pay off our hostile despot partners in Pakistan, Syria, Afghanistan added to the billions of Obamacare and The psedo green energy money holes The Potus uses to launder his agenda funds, would put a much larger dent in the deficit than all the wealth of every millionaire in the USA. All the top citizen wealth holders according to the census has a measly 11,000,000,000 if we tax them all at 100%, not a drop in the bucket for a 6,000,000,000,000 deficit http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/ … 2s0717.pdf

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   Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago

   Wait to see which candidate has been invited to the Bilderberg Group meeting this weekend.  Which ever one attends will be the next POTUS.  All the actual decision makers will be in attendance.

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      910chrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Just like John Kerry back in 04'. He is back again this year, and here is a full list of attending, http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants2012.html

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         910chrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I know he didn't win, (didn't matter who won, him and Bush are one in the same) but it was all planned out before Kerry even got nominated.

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            Reality Bytesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            The decision has already been made.  The election is held for the peoples amusement.

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    lovemychrisposted 11 years ago

    Not this time. There is nothing amusing about what the R's want to do.
    And Obama knows it.
    And so do I.

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    rebekahELLEposted 11 years ago

    #1
    
    Romney cannot be taken seriously as a presidential candidate.

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       paintphdposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Neither can the POTUS be taken seriously as the POTUS.

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    innersmiffposted 11 years ago

    I predict that the government will get in!

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    Mighty Momposted 11 years ago

    Where are the Ron Paul supporters?

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       innersmiffposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Here. For his ideas, but you don't want to be elected captain of the Titanic, if you catch my drift.

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          Mighty Momposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Geez, with an attitude like that there won't be any world leaders at all.

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             innersmiffposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             That's what I'm aiming for!

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             innersmiffposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             In all seriousness though. I have reason to believe that the American state has got to such a size that it is destined to collapse, no matter what the elected President does, even Ron Paul. This is not surprising or necessarily bad, it could prove to be a necessary change, but how we react to it is going to be very important. No doubt many statists will say, when it all goes down the pan, that the state was not big enough, "we need a one-world-government and a pervading oligarchy over the economy and our personal lives" (if you are sceptical, then I would urge you to look at the fall out from the First and Second world wars, and then watch what happens when the EU collapses). This makes it so much easier if Ron Paul is President because they can say "look what happened when a Libertarian was in charge! It all went to pot!", and then the fickle public believes it and us liberty dudes are back we started.
             
             I've come to terms with this now so I support Paul for his ideas rather than in the intention of getting him elected. I do think there is a slim chance of this, but as I said, the collapse is inevitable.

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       paintphdposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       They're all unemployed and had their electricity turned off.

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          Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          That's actually a possibility.

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             paintphdposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             I too think the inevitable fall of this nation is at hand. You must lay the blame at the feet of a society who's culture has lent itself to being predisposed with the Cardashians more than their elected officials.

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                Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                I already laid the blame in my post that stated the inevitable fall of America.

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    Cagsilposted 11 years ago

    It's completely irrelevant which one wins.
    
    America's downfall is inevitable at this point due to the willful ignorance of the people and the shameful actions of government for a couple of centuries now.

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    fpherj48posted 11 years ago

    OK, Habee....I am neither far left nor far right.  I am a registered Independent.  Since you're the boss here and have stated the rules ("not what we WANT, but what we THINK")....you've forced me to go with #4....Romney in a squeaker.  This wasn't easy, you know Miss Habee!!  I am ever so grateful you didn't request an EXPLANATION to our choice!!   Thanks.

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       Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       

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       paintphdposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       

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       habeeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Well, the explanation should be in a 500-word essay! Been a long time since I had to grade essays.

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          Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          

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          fpherj48posted 11 years agoin reply to this

          ....and it's been a hell of a lot longer since I've had to create one!  I could easily give my explanation in 10 words or less, but under the circumstances, I'd probably be sent to the Principal's Office.

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    johnmarsh098posted 11 years ago

    It's a close catch.but, I think Obama will get through this with an edge this time with it's reforms record.

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