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How to start an infinite constructive debate?

  1. Michael-Milec profile image59
    Michael-Milecposted 2 years ago

    For example, if someone whom you have known for a long time, cease to like you. Would it  discompose  you?

    1. cam8510 profile image94
      cam8510posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Michael, I am going to venture into this question, although I have no idea at this point where I am going.  Let me begin with the word discompose.  Although it turns out to be fairly self descriptive, I had to look it up.  I don't believe I have ever used or even heard the word discompose before, so great job tripping up this native English speaker. 

      Would it throw off the order of my life if someone I knew for a long time ceased to like me?  Would it unsettle, agitate, perturb me?  I suppose it depends on the depth of the relationship.  Your question states that this is a relationship that has been a part of my life for a long time, and I assume you mean it was a deep, substantial relationship. 

      In that case, yes, it would upset my world considerably for a while.  Would the strength of a structure be changed if a key building block were exchanged for one made of a different material?  Would the meaning of a sentence be changed if a vital word was exchanged for one of a totally different meaning?  yes, in both cases, of course there would be a fundamental unsettling of the wall and sentence. 

      If someone that close to me changed their feelings for me, their attitude about me and their actions toward me, my life would be shaken to its very core.  This is what happens in divorce.  It's what happens between brothers and sisters who have a falling out over the family business.  It's what happens to friends when jealousy creeps in.   

      What do we do in such cases?  We rebuild our lives.  We rebuild the lost relationship if possible, but if not, we must fill that void with something strong.  Otherwise, we become much weaker in an emotional, psychological way.  We are plagued with feelings of guilt, inadequacy, anger, frustration and bitterness. 

      A person might try to pretend this catastrophic event did not disrupt their life, but the very same time that can heal, can also reveal the ineffective ways we attempt to deal with loss and grief, which is just what your question implies, loss and grief.

      1. Michael-Milec profile image59
        Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks Chris for being the first commenter. You have made wonderful insight into the core of my focusing point of situations we human find ourselves in 'decomposing ' situation. Finding out in this HP community that we  are here as a "family' to enhance, to help, to build up each other, one thing i've noticed our effort stops short of going full distance. Two of your last paragraphs summarized excellently of my issue which I would never be able to express it as precisely as you did. You are using key words, '' weaker in an emotional psychological way ...inadequacy, anger, frustration an bitterness...'' telling me the cause and effect of " braking up or separate''-(discompose) our total existence as spirit and soul living in the body. We uphold physical, emotional and psychological and are successful in " healing,'' while "spiritual" is rarely reach into to deal with  which consequently leaves permanent damage  in relationships also  in a persons life ending in total loss. "infinite constructive debate" will bring ample input by contribution of  experiences, and  expertise of many knowledgeable and wise friends - to reach out- successfully in expectation to see happy and healthy loving world once again.

  2. makingamark profile image67
    makingamarkposted 2 years ago

    Could somebody explain why this thread is listed under Technical Questions?

    1. Mark Ewbie profile image83
      Mark Ewbieposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      An excellent question and one that I fear may only be answered with further debate.  It reminds me of the time... (fill in later)

      1. Michael-Milec profile image59
        Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Right on Mark. Thanks .

    2. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Might be 'technical' issue; my apology if caused by me.

  3. Jodah profile image87
    Jodahposted 2 years ago

    Michael, like Cam I have never heard or used the word "discompose" before. His answer is also very thorough. I have had falling outs with family members before and we still don't speak so that event did severely effect and change my life .. but whether that is for the better or worse..there is no real way to tell. Interesting question of which I am sure there can be a variety of answers.

    1. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Your wise words Jodah  compliment to my anticipation. Thanks.

  4. DasEngel profile image62
    DasEngelposted 2 years ago

    http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/12637339.jpg

    1. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Great line: We live by learning and learn from each other.

  5. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    Michael:
    A.  discompose (verb):
            to disturb or agitate (someone)

    B. compose:
            write, formulate, devise, make up, think up, produce, invent, concoct, pen, author, draft; score,  orchestrate, choreograph, organize, arrange, set out, make up, constitute, form.

    C. composed:
           calm, collected, cool, cool as a cucumber, 'cool, calm, and collected', self-controlled, self-possessed; serene, tranquil, relaxed, at ease, unruffled, unperturbed, untroubled; equable, even-tempered, imperturbable; unflappable, together, laid-back.

    Q. "If someone you knew for a long time…"
    like a friend? a brother? a cousin? a wife? a friend since grade school?

    "...ceased to like you,"

    how shown?

    ignores your phone calls? won't write you back? has unfriended you on Face book? won't go out to dinner any more? won't play racket ball or tennis any more? won't go to museums any more? will no longer let you into his art studio for those wonderful discussions about art and painting? won't go for walks with the dogs any more? won't attend family functions any more? refuses to go surfing with you because your surfing buddy now has a girl surfing buddy? won't sleep with you any more?

    "...would it cause you (edit:) to become discomposed?" ( adverb)
    would it cause you to become irritated or agitated?

    A.  Loosing a friend would cause feelings of sadness within me. More-so than feelings of irritation or agitation.

    PS The adverb form, become (answers the question, how?) discomposed (irritated), is probably more clear than the verb form, (cause you to) discompose (irritate oneself). We are baffled by your use of this word, as it is never used ...  nor should it, considering the definition of the word compose. For instance: To discompose something would actually be to destroy a composition! Feelings are not compositions ...  well, unless they are painted on a 2D matrix, written or authored in a book, featured in a play, etc. But to become discomposed, (state of mind), would be to become un-composed/calm.

    LAM

    1. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Wow Kathryn, excellent lead toward the whole existence of our  human being: spirit soul and body... ( What LAM stands for this time, please ?)

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
        Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this
        1. Michael-Milec profile image59
          Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Why " Look  At  Me?'

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
            Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            - another poster wrote:

            "I agree with those who said the forums have gotten tired …  Most of the forums I've been on over the years have gotten tired.

            HP forums tend to cover many of the same topics over and over and over.

            "Did you see what Panda did to me?  OMG and WTF!"

            "My religion is bigger than your religion."

            "HubPages is dying, I better go and backup my backups!"

            or worst of all...

            'Look at me.'

            Gasp."


            Isn't "Look at me" a valid/interesting enough reason to post?

  6. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    Now, as to the title:

    A.  Adding ly to infinite changes it into a word that can be used to describe, (an adjective.)

    B. "How to Start an Infinitely Constructive Debate"
    Titles require (mostly) all caps, however, you are not informing us as to how to start a debate, you are asking us how does one start a debate ...

    Therefore:

    Q. How does one start an infinitely constructive debate?

    This question would be a fine lead-in sentence, and doesn't need capital letters.

    (I know you are confused by our language. Just trying to be helpful.)

    1. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      There must have been a supernatural intervention : my reply to this has disappeared. ( we will see...)
      Anyway, thank you very much for being 'helpful' - my painful learning deserves spanking sometimes.
      Walter Mondale said " If you are sure  you understand everything that is going on, you are hopelessly confused ."

  7. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    How DOES one start an infinitely constructive debate???

    I think this is a great question!

    A constructive debate brings to light something which needs to be clarified.
    Debates bring other opinions and viewpoints to the round table of discussion.
    The forum format of Hub Pages is the coolest due to the boundaries which set forth the rules for constructive debate as opposed to destructive debate.

    Go anywhere else on the internet and you will find name calling and terrible put downs. Other people's points of view can cause others to become discomposed,. However, as we all know, the truth can only be found in cool headed logical analysis.


    Thanks very much for your infinitely relevant prompts.

    PS "Infinitely" constructive debating indicates totally, completely or wholly constructive (helpful or significant) debating as opposed to meaningless ramblings.

    TWISI

    1. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      A+

  8. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    How does one start infinitely meaningless ramblings?

    1. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      You mean how to stop infinitely meaningless...?

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
        Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        ~ How to STOP infinite constructive debate = "look at me?"


        I suppose so.

        I hereby stop using LAM.

        1. Michael-Milec profile image59
          Michael-Milecposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry Kathryn, mine was only a question, not an order what have too be done.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
            Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            I know that. It was my own decision, based on the truth of the matter, which you helped me realize.

  9. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    "An adverb is a word that modifies a verb, adjective, another adverb, determiner, noun phrase, clause, or sentence. Adverbs typically express manner, place, time, frequency, degree, level of certainty, etc., answering questions such as how?, in what way?, when?, where?, and to what extent?"


    "Adjectives are words that describe or modify other words. They can identify or quantify another person or thing in the sentence. Adjectives are usually positioned before the noun or the pronoun that they modify."

  10. ahorseback profile image39
    ahorsebackposted 2 years ago

    Kathryn  , You are such a cool woman ,  a lively debater and forumer !

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank You Very Much, ahorseback!
      ( I don't know how many want you encouraging me, however.lol )

  11. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    This is a great explanation:

    "infinite constructive debate" will bring ample input by contribution of  experiences, and  expertise of many knowledgeable and wise friends - to reach out- successfully in expectation to see happy and healthy loving world once again.



    Just cross this out as not relevant:
    "'Infinitely' constructive debating indicates totally, completely or wholly constructive (helpful or significant) debating as opposed to meaningless ramblings."

 
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