Were you familiar with the term "Incel" involuntary celibate/angry male virgin before Elliot Rodger?
According to information left by Elliot Rodger he killed students in Santa Barbara because he was a 22 year old virgin who had suffered many rejections from women. He also hated to see other males who had beautiful girlfriends and imagined them having incredible sex lives.
There have always been some young males who viewed being a virgin as a "negative" and many of them often lied about experiences to impress their peers. Has the supposedly ease of getting sex according to (images in the media) made male virgins feel even more inadequate and frustrated?
I had seen the phrase before online. The media plays a lot of roles in it however I'm guessing like most children he was likely influenced in other environmental ways when he was young. I've watched several videos of him, and I say this with no offense meant, but I'm not sure the guy was even straight. He has extremely feminine ways. His body language, the way he speaks all come out feminine and leave me wondering if this had anything to do with the issues he was having. In only speculation, I wonder if women noticed those traits and assumed him to be gay.
He was clearly delusional and had been for quite a while. I'm sure the environmental factors played a large role in this shooting however I doubt him having sex would have kept it from happening. He would have found something in the sexual experience to make him feel more inadequate and likely been angered even more when things didn't go the way he had imagined them in his head.
peeples, You're very perceptive. I too believe if he had sex he still wasn't going to be happy in life. It's possible these "hot women" who ignored him, assumed he was gay, or saw him as a geek/nerd. Blaming others for one's unhappiness is twisted
I was not aware of this term. In my opinion, sex isn't "everything" in the world. Being a virgin at 22 isn't bad. Being a virgin at 40 isn't bad either. Being a virgin isn't bad at all. I think that it's unfortunate that people lost their lives because of a selfish act that he did because he hated his life. It's always an inconvenience to others when something like this happens.
It matters because he took his own life & others. That's just cowardly. "Hey, I hate my life, I'm going to kill myself, but not without others suffering as well."
If he had just locked himself in that cheap BMW, pulled the trigger, nobody would have really cared. But because of the grandiose effect of how he played his plan out, he's selfish in that respect.
He's not exactly "ugly" but he does have "gay" tendencies. Maybe he hasn't met the right women in his life. Plus that, parents weren't there. He was crying for help. Too bad he wasn't helped before this tragedy.
No, I hadn't seen it before. But as to Rodger's personal problems -and he obviously had them- I tend to think the root of the problem is he suffered from an anger disorder. He may have been a virgin frustrated with what he perceived as social expectations, but he could have just as well have been a sex addict with frustration with what he perceived as religious expectations. According to a friend who is a psychiatrist and studies such disorders, some individuals substitute rage for sexual gratification, and exaggerate feelings of inadequacy and frustration as vehicles of stimulus. For these individuals the overly indulged angst is a stimulant much like foreplay is for the rest of us. Of course, this pattern of behavior may have its own dark roots in childhood experiences, such as seeing parents or teachers indulging in episodes of extreme anger, or from hearing others make repetitive, scorching denunciations of certain peoples, such as prostitutes, minorities, children, gays, women in general, ect. The individual is incapable of developing positive, constructive feelings of passion and the objects of their hate have been turned into the object (and recipient) of their passion.
Very true! What scares a lot of people is believing more "ticking time bombs" are out there with no way to stop them. Most of us accept rejection as a part of life. He felt like an outcast being a virgin at 22 when sex is supposedly easy to get.
There is some widespread emotional retardation happening.
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