What makes so many men think that women owe them sex?

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   mustangman1posted 5 years ago

   Being male, I object to your statement.  I never thought any woman owed me sex.  If you are writing about rich a powerful men exerting their power to get sex that is something else.   But even this abuse of power usually has something of value the woman wants.  In Hollywood, it is being cast in a movie.  In the case of Donald Trump, it is access to his connections or maybe being a wife.   Do I think it is right?  There are a lot of things I don’t think are right, but exist.  For those men who rapped women, I have no sympathy for them or for what punishment they get.  They knew they were doing wrong, and now it is time to pay.  I will not defend rats.
   
   Your use of Incels to me is an exaggeration based upon a few extremists.   In any case, why do you care?  They are not interested in you or you in them.  They are the ones leaving you alone.  You should be praising then.  Your complaint is with the rest of the men in society.
   
   A writer to your article stated,” Women on the other hand might say yes to going out on a date with men they have NO romantic interest in simply because they have no plans.  It's not as if money was burning a hole in his pocket and he just wanted to go out with ANY woman.”
   
   I noticed you didn’t say a thing on this.  Why?  If you were interested in someone and you were footing the bill, wouldn’t you want to know if that person wanted to be with you vs going out because you were paying for it?   Where is integrity and honesty of women that you demand of men? 
   
   Concerning your second writing, I call BS.
   
   “Do you have any idea how frustrating it is having 30 or 40 men EVERY SINGLE DAY OF YOUR LIFE hit on you?”
   
   I will take the average of 35 X 365 x 40 = 511,000 men hit on you in 40 years.  That comes to 4.375 men hitting on you each hour of an 8 hour day.  You may have had the looks of Christine Brinkley when 20, but I highly doubt you have her looks at the age of 60. 
   To me, you sound like the professional woman full of herself.  You dated Alpha Males i.e. rich, dashing, influential, extremely handsome along with being arrogant, self-centered, rude and selfish.  You chased these men, who would not commit to you, while passing up “good men” because they did not meet your standards.
   
   Now, you are angry.  But rather than accept you are the cause of your unhappiness, it is men, especially those Alpha men who wouldn’t commit to you all the while ignoring or friend zoning the rest.

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         mustangman1posted 5 years agoin reply to this

         These words are yours as sad as they are.
         
         I stopped dating when I was 25, and for the most part I have been on my own.
         
         I run as fast as I can when any man shows any interest in me.
         
         In real life, I still cannot bear for men to come near me.
         
         It's essentially because I've never known men to like me. They just wanted to sleep with me because of my looks.
         
         And, yes, there was (and is) something wrong with me. I' autistic - high functioning - and I faced terrible abuse growing up, so I had no social skills. All men wanted to do was sleep with me.
         
         Nobody liked me as a person/human.
         
         With your writing, I now know of your background.   Why did I think you were a professional woman?  Some professional women are self-centered and think men find them very desirable, so they reject most men for years, only to be baffled as to why they are single later on in life.  Thus, the refrain, “Where are all the good men?”  You are not this woman.
         
         I can see where an unstable child hood along with being autistic, which makes interacting with people difficult and with stunning looks would make the person you are.  But I see no value in blaming men for your issues.  The vast majority of women want to be in a man’s company and vise verse.

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   Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago

   Perhaps because they paid for it beforehand. I assume you meant all women, even prostitutes?

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   Onusonusposted 5 years ago

   How about all the ladies who expect a free ride from men?

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         Onusonusposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I am going to talk about the ladies. I see tons of women always taking advantage of men trading affection and sex for gifts and security. They act as though men owe it to them. They act like they are so strong and independent, then turn around and quit their jobs as soon as they can get their meat hooks into the nearest available sugar daddy.
         
         It's a two way street, it takes two to tango, and the women aren't all sweet and innocent victims of the so called "patriarchy". they play the game just as much as the guys do and when they loose, they get the luxury of calling foul and getting all the sympathies the world has to offer.

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               Onusonusposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               It is simply a lie to say that virtually all men hit on women. It is a stereotype perpetuated by radical feminists, and I never justified any wrong doings that some men might be guilty of.
               
               The real problem is people like you who constantly pit the sexes against each other when in reality general life at home, on the streets, at work, and in the market place women are safe and so are men. They work together professionally, and in most cases leave each other alone. This is the rule not the exception in America.

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                     Onusonusposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Victim status achievement unlocked. And you say you're not a feminist? You sure sound like one. Also I don't believe that you were "never safe" at work. Perhaps things are different in South Africa, but in the States it is rare for a woman to be in danger of abuse at the work place. That is except when you are conditioned to perceive every interaction with men as a threat.

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                        Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Or unless Donald Trump is there as well.

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                           Onusonusposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Donald, or Bill, or Hillary, or Big Johnson. Except Donald wasn't the one who was impeached for using an intern's vagina as a humidor.

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                              Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              Correct, Donnie used them as a hand strengthener.

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                                 Onusonusposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                 Hand strengthener? Weak.

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                           Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Lol. I bet you had no problem with Clinton's rape accusations but you imagine crap with Trump.
                           
                           What a joke.

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                              Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              Oh, you're one of those who disbelieve a multitude of women who claimed he groped them? Okay....
                              
                              Never mind he bragged about doing so.

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                                 Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                 Women were actually raped by Bill. Big difference.
                                 
                                 I have no time or sympathy for women who claim to have been ' groped' who wait years to speak out, only commenting when a person's public status changes.
                                 
                                 And, to be honest, complaints that it happens because 'I'm so pretty' fall on deaf ears. My experience in offices working with women is that beautiful women who maintain a professional demeanor and a business attitude are treated completely differently from women who view their looks as a business asset. The second group cries harassment. The first group never has that problem. There's a correlation.

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   Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago

   Because some men pay them for it.

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