The Kindom of God was the main focus of Jesus Christ's ministry while He was on earth. So why do most church clergies avoid the Kingdom message that Christ taught? Why we should seek first is stated by Jesus Christ in Matthew 6:33 (NKJV) which states: 33 "But seek FIRST the KINGDOM OF GOD and all His righteousness; and all these things shall be added to you." Clearly the Kingdom message is not the main focus in churches today, why not?
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celafoe-thank you for your answer. I couldn't agree with you more. I don't believe the true meaning of Matthew 6:33 has ever crossed their minds.
Charlie please explain a bit your reference at the end to MT 16:16
sorry somehow i put Mt it should be MK 16:16
Thank you good friend and man. I look to God and thank God that I am in the fold and loved and cherished as are my children. We can never emphasize enough to actual baptism.
Celafoe, you nailed it!
Norine, commenting and correcting people needs to be a matter of discernment and sharing. You have turned it into a knee jerk habit. Your comment to me, makes no sense. You just had to do it. Breathe in and breathe out for a bit.
You prove my point Norine. Not patient reason and thought but immediate reaction with a preplanned agenda. A focus so narrow that it is tunnel vision. Void of contemplation and meditation. A parrot and an empty gong.
I am not attacking you Norine, I am trying to help you in the areas of compassionate discernment, patience and peaceful interchange with others. You have great knowledge but need to work in the area of appropriate spreading of the knowledge.
horine-- I agree with eric as I have told you. think more write less. you cause a lot of confusion spouting your PCH cult false doctrines. so much you write is confusing to people that have little knowledge of scripture.
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. - 1 Timothy 2:12
norine-- I repeat what I said. I am going to have to start deleting the commenst where you rant and cause confusion since you believe that is ok. confusion is not of God.
The verse applies to YOU within the context of why Paul made the statement.
nor= we are all equal in regard to the benefits of Christianity but scripture tells us that the authority is given to men--see 2 Tim. you use scripture out of context, actually you espouse much PCH false doctrines of men. error
Norine is hung up on the Book of Acts and being Baptized in the Holy Spirit - she has obviously had this experience. It's powerful and seriously life-changing. She is literally 'not here' to be able to respond well to us. Not an excuse just TRUTH ;)
No one is attacking your womanhood or ability to be a spiritually-powerful being, Norine - you've missed the original point, as usual. :)
Other than the tithing thing where you contradict yourself, this is great
mm- and where do you find me contradicting myself? certainly not here/
II Timothy 4:14 "Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the LORD reward him according to his works!"
The clergy of Christendom believe that God's Kingdom is in one's heart. True Christians are motivated from the heart to be loyal subjects of God's Kingdom/Government by sharing the good news about God's heavenly based Government (Isaiah 9:6,7).
Matt 6:33 "Seek ye FIRST the KoG..." Acts 1:4 "WAIT" for the Holy Spirit!" See the "witness" Scriptures? W/O Holy Spirit; we're LOST! Can't READ HIS WORD w/o "interpreting," to "understand!" See?
Matt 6:33 "Seek ye FIRST the KoG..."
Acts 1:4 "WAIT" for the Holy Spirit!
Can't ALL "see" there is an "ORDER" to worshiping GOD?
W/O we can only use "OUR" minds to "interpret" HIS WORD!
Jn 4:23-24 say "TRUE WORSHIPERS "MUST" worship IN SPIRIT..."
manatita44- Thanks for your answer. What little is taught by churches with regards to the Kingdom of God is most often out of context. Most so called christians seldom seek the Kingdom when they study if at all. It was the center of Christ's ministry
Blessed be the One who gave you this knowledge. The journey is essentially an inner one; the transformation of one's own nature. Let's not look at others, Bro. This presents many traps. Push on! Much Love.
Manatita44 -Jesus said in Matthew 6:33 (NKJV) But seek FIRST the Kingdom of GOD............. There is NO trap. If Jesus said it, then that settle it.
"The Kingdom of God is at hand". Is this figuratively or literally?
Eric- At the time Jesus spoke the words you quoted the Kingdom was on earth in Jesus Christ. Now, disciples who follow Christ are citizens of the Kingdom of heaven as noted in Philippians 3:20 (NKJV). Also read John 18:36-37.
Kingdom, I agree.
The trap lies in being so focused on others, that our Hearts becomes impure. My own view is that I should work on my own ignorance. Why take on the burden of others? I'm trying to remove the dust from my own eyes. There are plenty!
eric-- it is both and is open to all who are willing to enter under the conditions set by Christ. there is no other place where salvation is available and NO other way to enter
I suppose in a very deep way, I cannot even really pretend to imagine what it is like not living in the Kingdom.
Mabel Amponsah- I deleted your answer due to the fact you have attach a link. Feel free to rewrite your answer without the link.
MISFIT: How can it be I knew the same as you but NEVER "researched" o/s of Bible? How can it be Scripture is "revealed" as to it's meaning but I NEVER heard it preached that way? How can it be?
Girl, you can't BEAT GOD is ALL I'm trying to tell u!
Eric- Thank you for you thought out answer.
MISFIT: How I wish u KNEW - HOLY SPIRIT does a better JOB than u "researching" for we are talking the SAME THING yet u "shame HIM" by not BELIEVING HE can do better!
BELIEVE & more than u can find will be "REVEALED!"
Our beliefs, language, human concepts and actions are only relevant to us. When we do anything, like worship - He 'reads' hearts, and cannot tell the difference between the worship of a Christian or Muslim devotee - or a crazed football fan, even. :)
YES - "HE reads "hearts" BUT is "A JEALOUS GOD" & didn't write II Kgs 17:29-41 for NOTHING!
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They really don't know what it is!
John was not formed part of the Trinity.
In the Catholic Congregation, we strongly believe in the Ministry of the Trinity. This is our Faith! Search and you will find it! Thank you!
Louis- Here's my take. The chatholic church believe they are the Kingdom of God. They treat the Pope like God. The sad part is, the pope let's them. What happened at Fatima about a hundred years or so ago is pure satan. And you don't realize it. Sad.
louis- this article shows your great learnig at the fet of men and not the Holy Spirit. The trinity is another of the false catholic teachings. Christ is NOT god but He IS The SON OF GOD. The Kingdom of God is not about the false trinity
more gobel d gook conf from norine that is mis-translation NT:3739
NT:3739 hos (hos); including feminine he (hay); and neuter ho (ho); probably a primary word (or perhaps a form of the article NT:3588); is not a word for God
Funny. Most generic Christians abhor the Catholic Church because of how it supposedly 'twisted' pagan concepts into their religion - with the pagan concept of 'trinity' being the biggest 'twist'; and yet C's hold the trinity to be as sacred. Research
The way Norine misreads 1 Timothy 3:16 in her false Pentecostal oneness doctrine is the belief that "God" was vindicated. This is how religious cults cherry-pick Bible verses ignoring proper exegesis from the original inspired language.
Norine, so your God needs to be vindicated. Yes or no?
Norine, You cannot answer the simple question can you? You keep trying to divert. Does your "God" need vindication? You keep posting 1 Timothy 3:16 all over the place, so why won't you tell us?
Norine, You are being stubborn. It is a simple yes, or no answer. This question exposes your modalist doctrine because you know there can only be one right answer. You are obviously avoiding it in fear because you know what it exposes.
Norine, No, my God (Yahweh) needs no vindication, but yours does because you use 1 Timothy 3:16 as a "proof" verse that Jesus is God. If Jesus is God, then your God was vindicated according to your modalist doctrine.
John did not lie. It is your modalist doctrine that does. The Word as proclaimed by Jesus... was God (Yahweh). Truly, truly I tell you, whoever hears my Word and believes Him who sent me has eternal life. - John 5:24 Yahweh's Word is his purpose.
norine ignores or twists anything she does not "feel" agrees with her twisted doctrines, notice she ignored that the Greek word mistranslated in her version of 1 Tim 3:16 as God, DOES NOT MEAN GOD and is error
norine- try reading the CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT READ THE REST OF THE CHAPTER TO see your error
Norine, you can't base doctrine on cherry-picking verses in isolation. This is the epitome of many religious cult doctrines. This is the reason why you refuse to answer my question to you. This exposes your eisegesis into the text of Scripture.
flpalermo- Thank you. Matthew 7:21 sataes: 21 Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord ; shall enter the Kingom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in heaven." I believe it's a bit more complicated but there's no room here to explain.
flpalermo- I agree with much of what you have said, but again there is more to it or I should say there's other issues such as baptizism which is part of entering the Kingdom of God. As one example.
kingdom-- I agree there is so much more but I sure do enjoy learning and participating in it. we will never get it all in this life but we can keep working on it.
celafoe- I very much agree with you. Learning God's word is a never ending process.
I count myself blessed to not know everything about God. Each day holds the promise of new revelations. What could be better than that?!
Norine I have never seen any of your writings provide new revelations. Perhaps you think you were called to disrupt HP. You are doing a great job.
Sometimes I really wonder if ANYONE is 'really saved' in your book, Norine - you have something 'corrective' to say to everyone, no matter how much they agree with you. You have the most argumentative relationship with the HS I have ever seen.
Again, there you go with ASSUMING that *I* am not speaking through the SAME HS as you do!! For once in your life, MAYBE you should LISTEN for a change. I finally finished my hub about this - you should scroll way down to the end section b4 last video
David Candel- It does seem that churches want to be "seeker friendly" as oppose to seeking the Kingdom of God which they seem to have no enterest. And this is partly the fault of the clergies who don't understand the Kingdom of God nature or hid it.
MISFIT: JESUS was THE CHRISTO or ONE SPIRIT who could been seen in flesh & was EVERYWHERE else @ same time! Stop looking @ JESUS CHRIST as "man" (TRINITY)! HE came as "man" to relate to us yet GOD (Jn 1:14; I Tim 3:16)!
Protestant can't fool
You're SO close, LoL! YES, Christ WAS 'God in the flesh' and came to teach & show us that WE ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS HIM. He came to show people the TRUTH about themselves & how to walk in this life - through the KoG that we ALL HAVE 'within'
Not "SO" close MF! I didn't have to "research!" You're the one BEHIND or do u THINK u're ahead of the HOLY SPIRIT?
but we MUST "ACTIVATE" via BELIEF in HIS WORD which is our basic "FOUNDATION" re "Communication Line" 2 HIM then TRUTH!
roselinsojan- I agree with your comment. Clergies interpretations are different. When earning their theology degrees they learn nothing of the true Kingdom of God because they are not guided by the Holy Spirit Most have personal agendas.
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Stas- Your comment does not appear to have anything to do with the question asked.
No, the kingdom of god becomes established within you by staying present 'in the moment' with your entire being as often as possible. Religious 'beliefs' & lies keep your attention circumvented or diverted. I'm not talking about 'observing', Nori
I truly believe that you - especially and in particular - are in these discussions specifically to cause confusion. That is what 'the fruit of your spirit' is, Norine. Part of the problem is that you don't listen - I'm not talking about 'observation'
I'm not argumentative - I'm making sure you've 'got it right'. If you're thinking about 'believing' in something, your attention is diverted. Belief is not needed - you are 'just in' God. You are awakening your christos. The same that Christ has.
Belief is a place to start & continue on a spiritual journey. But once you 'arrive' it simply becomes a part of you. Again, if you are intentionally trying to 'believe in' something - your intentions are diverted from remaining present in the mom
Norine, diversions exist in all kinds of ways and we deal with them. Your 'version' of spirituality will only take you so far - at some point, you have to find the reality of 'walking the path' beyond beliefs. Christ can HELP but can't do it for us.
You are welcome to delete these comments of mine since Norine's are gone - this looks weird now, ha! I really don't mind her responses (though they can get so maddening). I keep hoping that she'll come back to us, but maybe that isn't possible. :)
CathrineMosttly- Every single one of us has not been baptized in water and spirit. That's what it takes to enter the Kingdom of God. Read John 3:5. as proof. But there are many in the Kingdom of darkness where satan rules.
kingdom is there a word missing or what am I misunderstanding?
celafoe.- Her comment is implying that EVERYONE are in the Kingdom of God. I, simplely, am telling her that it is not true. Most people are in satan's Kingdom. In order to be in God's Kingdom of heaven one must be baptized in water and Spirit.
now I understand and agree completely
True, Norine - he said that verse to Pharasees. Yes, my comment is saying that everyone has the Kingdom of God within; and that anyone can access it at any time. Its not a 'tricky' place to get to. However, choosing the Kingdom of God is personal.
I advise reading just the words of Jesus in context with an open mind. Why do people not see what this scipture says? Bc you BELIEVE something different - religious, manmade rituals that keep people from realizing the very REAL Kingdom of God within.
CM= Everyone who sees it correctly does not see it as you do. your definition cannot be supported with scripture in context. but the again, our minds are not so open as to let our brains and understanding fall out.
I realize what I have written doesn't jive with the salvation message that many Christians believe in. But, not all Christians believe in it the same way - why? What if Jesus message came BEFORE he died, and it has gotten buried beneath 'beliefs'?
Catherine_ with so many worldly Hub's you have written I have no reason to think that God's Kingdom holds any true value to you. I have no trust in you when you sit there as say " he supposeldly died to "save us". Based on that I don't trust you.
I've been called a Diest. The world hates me for my 'worldy hubs'. I'll assume you are judging me on the subjects as my mom does. Judging is another very religious concept. Neither Jesus' teachings NOR the Kingdom of God belong to Christianity alone.
Catherine- You're like Norine, you take something someone said and twist it around to say something else. I never said, implies or suggested that I hate you. And stop feeling sorry for yourself.