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Intellectual Integrity

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    Sooner28posted 5 years ago

    They regard "beautiful feelings" themselves as arguments, the "heaving breast" as the bellows of divinity, and conviction as the CRITERION of truth- Friedrich Nietzsche

    What an apt summary of the intellectual life of the majority of "thinkers" today, especially of the theological variety.  Faith as CONVICTION, and this makes it so.

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      kessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Who then is innocent.....

      Both those who are  pro "faith" and those who argue against it based their arguments on ignorance.

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        Sooner28posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        What?

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          Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Hey Sooner, a lot of people do that with Kess' posts. lol

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          pennyofheavenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          lol

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      pennyofheavenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      No wonder he had a mental breakdown.

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        Sooner28posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Too much genius contained in one person tongue

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          pennyofheavenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, he was quite paradoxical in his verses. Some might say hypocritical but I am not sure that it was hypocrisy.

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            Sooner28posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Hypocrisy is okay.  The truth or falsity of views is not dependent on the person living up to what they say.  Their views must be evaluated on their own merits.  If an adulterer claims it's wrong to cheat on your spouse, their claim is not negated by the fact that they are hypocritical.  It's just hard, as human beings, to take someone seriously who contradicts in their actions what they claim to believe in their heart.

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              pennyofheavenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Yes agree.

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              kessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              integrity is the issue here....Where is it in such a view?
              For if it not in the person, then we may safely say it does not exist.
              Then does it not stand to reason then, that the person without integrity also ceases to be?

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                recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                integrity is not in the person, it is how that person behaves - which requires understanding of what is what in the universe, how good and bad is created and applied and the honesty to sometimes go against that person's own self to behave in ways that benefit others and say what we think is true even when it does not benefit oneself

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                  kessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  What then is integrity?

                  How can you, being a person, reference integrity without involvement of your person?

                  How Can you judge the integrity of any one thing by referencing something external it?

                  I tell you Truly.....The integrity of a thing is judge by the thing itself....and of a person by the person himself.

                  To forsake this is to be lost in the confusion of falsehood.

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                    recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    the only posible judge is external, a rock is nothing until it affects something by 'being' a stepping stone or falls down a mountain - and a person is nothing except in relation to everyone and eveyrthing around it.  I guess I might agree with what you say in that integrity is being 'true' to yourself, but this is an empty and pointless thing without the effect it has on others.

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      recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Nietsche was a genius, and slightly bonkers I suspect - but this was the turning point of modern thinking that showed up the fallacy of the old style way of thinking that relied on self proclaimed experts who pontificated on what was right and wrong,  a way of thinking that descended from religious thinking, shtterd, blind and self proclaiming with no foundation or rationale.

      I admire the man for pointing out that god is a construct of human thinking and then proclaiming that "god is dead" and commiting suicide to back it up with conviction LOL

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        pennyofheavenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        He committed suicide? That's taking conviction a bit too far!
        Can't have been that much of a genius unless the bonkers far outweighed the genius.lol

 
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