1) Mormons teach that man can become a "God". Just like satan told Eve.
The ONLY MEN WHO BECOME GODS, even the Sons of God, are those WHO ENTER
(Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, page 269 2nd LDS President(prophet) Brigham Young)
Satan saids in
3:5 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
2) Mormons teach that the book of Momon is a new and better doctrine. Just like the anti Christ will do
According to Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible (History of the Church, vol. 4, p. 461) and contains the truths of Mormonism.
Revelation 13:5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them.
How do you know the Bible is right and the Book of Mormon is wrong?
Well the book of mormon takes from the bible and change what they want. like
Matt 22:30, For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God. (No marriage in Heaven period.)
Book of mormon
D&C 132:40-46, Joseph Smith many wives.
@passing bible was manipulated and changed at first place...joseph smith infact brings in original message...book of mormom is perfect book...
pisean you don't know your history. The book book of mormon revised up to 6 times. Which had to correct up to 4000 errors. and I am sure they changed more. there have been a bunch of changes in The BofM. Read your history.
@passing my history...it is ur history too...my friend that applies to bible to...read ur history with open mind too...
Pisean Ill prove the lds faith wrong with this. Your faith started and stands on the great apostasy.
The Great apostasy has not happen yet.
John 15:2, Every branch (believer, disciple, true Christian) that beareth fruit, He (God) shall prune it, that it may bring forth more fruit. (The true Word of God will continue forever.) The branches are the believers and/or teachers and the fruit are those who are taught. God will get those people ready (prune) and the cycle will continue forever.
This is what God promised.
The Great apostasy is talked about in 2 Thessalonians Ch 2. When the people thought that the day of the Lord had already began.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first (The Great apostasy) AND that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition (Satan).
The Great apostasy (the Great falling away) will happen when the anti christ (the son of perdition"damnable to die") comes and teaches his false doctrine (Rev 13). The people will be tricked into worshiping the beast (satan) and will be turned away from the true Christ. The great Apostasy.
Jesus promised us that he would never leave us or forsake us. Hebrews 13:5, And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever; John 14:16 we will always have the Holy spirit we will always have Jesus
we will start hear.
@passing proving is not ur domain....u r entering zone of right and wrong which involves judging and evaluating which is domain of jesus as per christians...
just read what i wrote in 2 thess 2:3 When the great apostacy happens satan will be revealed.
I am not judging just sharing the truth.
please commit on the above.
@passing yes it is truth in your opinion...But to reach to your opinion , u read,evaluated then reached a judgement that this is truth...now that is simply not ur domain...ur domain is mere believe and not passing judgement on what is truth or what is not...that authority lies with jesus....and in my knowledge u r not jeus
God's word Is God's Word. I am just reading it, That is what it saids. Do you think that i have twisted his words?
@passing again u r projecting ur belief as truth...thats my point...u have every right to belief but no right to decide on others belief...dont be in too hurry for judgement day...let god decide...u dont decide on god's behalf....let him do his job...
He decided when he wrote the book... Don't let Joseph Smith decide for you. Let God's word be God's Word
@passing dont let four humans decide for u...let god decide...dont sell ur belief as truth...state it to what it is ...mere belief...let god do his job , dont be god...no where in bible or torah or quran god says passingtheworld is judge or for that matter any human being...if humans interpreting holy boos based on their perceptions had to decide , judgement day wont have been needed...
1 peter 3:15
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
2 Timothy 4:2-3
King James Version (KJV)
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
this is what the Lord saids
Expose the false doctrine....expose satan
Did God came to you and gave his words, or did you take another person's word that the book you are reading is from god?
you already know my answer.... What would you like to share?
@passing Expose the false doctrine....expose satan....
now for that u have to judge and when u judge u violate another verse...so it is paradox...who decides what is false and what is true ...u or god?...r u playing role of god?...bible must not come in way of god doing his job...if it comes , scrap it....god is above bible...judgement is god's domain...by the way u have lot to expose within Christianity itself...do expose part in that first...
So do you think that Joseph Smith was God? He tried to rewrite the whole bible. "The Joseph Smith Translation"
And there you go putting down the bible..... I am giving you scripture is that judging?
Joseph smith is not god...and u giving scripture is not judging...ur interpretation is juding...u interpretated that those verse where for hindus or muslims or joseph smith...even wondered what if those scriptures where for paul?...why not?...or for even peter?...why not look within ur own belief system than point fingers on other?
Well Pisean I grew up mormon and i pointed to my own belief at that time (lds).... That is why I am no longer a mormon.
So god didn't give you, you just believed a fellow human when he told you bible is god's word?
What if Joseph Smith got it from god?
Here's some interesting info on that "perfect" book:
The present bible is the creation of Constantine and his cohorts. But why believe even the ones before that?
OK, but that doesn't answer my question. How can you be sure Joseph Smith didn't have his revelations?
I had a pretty long discussion with two "missionary Mormons" once, over this very issue.
It ended with me expressing my assurance of salvation in Christ. So, if I died right this moment, or any moment, believing in Him, I will be with Him, (forever), in Heaven.
"Can your church/teaching do the same, or better?" Their reply was, "No."
"So, why should Im become a Mormon? You offer me far less than I already have."
I politely escorted them to the front door, and sent them on their way. (Never to return).
Wait, it is the koran?, no, no, it is the bible that is final. On second thoughts it is the gita, or is it the books of buddhism or jainism? No it is the book of the dead that is the final. Or is it......
You know, I have my assurance of salvation in Ahura Mazda. So, if I died right this moment, or any moment, believing in Him, I will be with Him, (forever), in Heaven. So I have to escort everybody out of my mind(politely, of course).....
IT is true straight from satan.
Pisean you believe anything they tell you. you have never back what you have said.
I forgot to add, I have to believe that I'm the only person who is right, only my religion is the god given one and others are all wrong.
Hell with "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye".
@passing yes i believe in truth...and that is truth....
Ok? Thank for sharing........Truth......but if feel you don't even know what you believe.
@passing thanks for passing the judgement but i hope u get that it is mere your opinion...
the only thing you ever say is "it is true". You can never explain yourself.
@passing again passing the judgement...again i hope u get that it is mere your opinion...
yes I have the ability to judge, make a decision, or form an opinion objectively, authoritatively, and wisely, especially in matters affecting action; good sense; discretion:
So have others, besides luke 6:37 "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged" and please remove that log from your eyes before judging.
@jomine luke was not as authoritative & wise as passing... @passing keep judging with authority ....
This post is showing a comparison and observation. The bible tells us to expose false teaching. Isn't that right? I am not Judging the people i am exposing the LDS doctrine.
Do you think I was judging Pisean, He is very hard to understand.
@passing my friend you made two statements about me and now the third one...u r judging me every post u make....exposing false teaching?....how do u know what is true and what is false...let god judge...who are u and me to judge?....
The Bible lets us know that the LDS faith is false.
I grew up LDS and was brain washed with all of their lies. The LDS Judged the world remember "every other church is an abomination"
Who is doing the judging?
The koran(or any other book you please) lets us know that the bible faith is false.
I grew up bible and was brain washed with all of their lies. The bible Judged the world remember "every other religion is an abomination"
Who is doing the judging?
How do you like it?
lol. why should this bother me? Its just words.... a forum of people that can share without physical fighting. very safe.....
Wow the koran is a whole new subject.... if that is what you believe?
@passing i doubt jomine believes in quran but his point is valid...for most religion barring hinduism , all other religion is false....so who is going to judge?....u believe in bible and judgement day...so till time of judgement day let people believe in what they want...if u try to judge , u attempt to become god ....dont judge others ...let people believe in what they believe...
pisean282311 has replied well.
And I do not believe any of the religious books are correct or trustworthy.
That's fine. you share that and i'll share what i want.
No problem, But do not expect others to be kind when you say their religion is satanic, expect you will reap what you sow.
I never expected that this is a blog. Words don't hurt.
Not everybody thinks so, I guess.
If I tell you bible is book by satan or all religions are nonsense(a fact though), you would be one of the few mature persons if you don't spew venom or insult.
Words do hurt, which is why Christ taught that we should watch every idle word because we will be judged by them. Every thing that we say, type, think will be judged by Christ himself. We will not be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet with God.
you don't believe the bible but you believe in satan? na i know where you are going. why don't you believe?
I do not believe in people who say there is god or satan. I cannot believe in either(God or satan) of them because I have not heard from them, but only from people who say they know what these beings want, which I do not find trustworthy.
@passing believing in new testament is believing in satan as per jews...so who got it right u or jews?
I don't understand (well i do understand, it is biblical) why the don't believe it. Jesus (who is the new testament or new covenant). This is promised all threw the old testaments.
"Behold, the virgin shall conceive
and bear a Son,
and shall call His Name Immanuel"
But you, O BETHLEHEM Ephrathah,
though you are little among the thousands of Judah,
Yet OUT OF YOU (Bethlehem)
SHALL come forth to Me
THE One to be RULER in Israel, (Messiah!!!)
Whose goings forth have been from of OLD,
from EVERLASTING." (A Biblical description of God ... Messiah would step forth from Eternity!!!)
"For unto us a Child is born,
unto us a Son is given,
and His Name will be called Mighty God,
Prince of Peace."
It is right there for them.
@passing isnt judging whether jesus was messiah or not , domain of jews?...they invented the concept , they know better....anyways point is not whether jews r right or wrong, point is you judging that people believe in bible or believing in satan...now that is for all faiths...jews would say u believe in jesus now that is straying from the path , islam says jesus was servant of allah and believing in anything else about jesus is fabrication and so on....rather than passing judgements on others , it would be better to let people believe in what they believe....isnt it?
Believe what you want. I am just sharing what the LDS church is tring to hide,
@passing and i am also sharing something which main stream Christianity is trying to hide...
I agree with Samuel Clemens. He said the real miracle of the book of Mormon is that John Smith could stay awake long enough to write it.
If Mormons are the anti-christ, the anti-christ is not half as bad as I was told to expect.
my point is simply as follows
1) dont intrude on rights of others to belief
2) get that u have mere belief and u interpretate verses so do others including me...now some might interpretate that those verses of false doctrine apply on catholics or on paul or others...there r people who say paul was anti christ...that might be truth for them...so it is mere interpretation
3) bible has had 20 versions...4 where selected by panel consisting of human beings..if today we had to make those selections , we dont know those 4 would be best choice...we might go with gosphel of mary or peter or judas...so dont sell selection of group of people as ultimate truth ...it is mere belief that it is word of god...u have right to belief but no right to judge on other religions...
and the mormons have had 6 revisions in less then a hundred years.
And the dead sea scroll are almost identical to the bible right know.
well pisean I have class in the morning and football pratice so I most go. Don't let Joseph Smith Teaching trick you..
Good luck and God bless.
@passing and dont let group of humans trick u...live ur life fully and let god do his job...
all the best....
Almost identical would be a huge overstatement. Word for word the overlap is no more than a few percent of the total.
I don't see how much something change as a measure of sanctity. If it was that would rule out the revisions Jesus made just by allegedly existing.
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