The Non-Believers Encantation

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   A.Villarasaposted 11 years ago

   Denying the existence of God is oh so so easy,
   Now that my 5 physical senses are oh so busy,
   With stuff and things thar are never so queasy,
   About  making  millions of folks ever so pissy.
   
   Harris and Dawkins are our prophets of  scorn,
   Heaped on ignorant  goat herders  who eat corn,
   So why would multitude follow them to be born,
   Like heaps of  rubbish in a roadside of thorn.
   
   Now that  secularism is firmly on our side,
   We march to the drum beat of our soaring tide,
   Behold, the majesty of our enamored stride,
   And beware  all of you who simply  can not hide.
   
   P.S  this is best sung with a hip-hop beat.

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      Ericdierkerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      A "devotional" by a non-believer? What a interesting concept. Who is "our" and "we"?

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         A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         @Eric:
         
         Ironic isn't it that a non-believer (commonly called  an atheist) would have a devotional... but as devotionals  go, the one above is simply my attempt at empiricizing the non-empiricizable

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            Ericdierkerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I think you believe in the light that is inside of you, and the beauty of each day and in Love. And guess what --- I believe in you.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Just as a matter of interest, you seem extremely offended, upset and, for want of a better word, vexed, that some people have the temerity, audacity and unbridled arrogance to not hold the same opinions and beliefs that you do.
      
      Why does this irritate you so much? Do you crave the days gone by, when anyone who had the massive effrontery to suggest that your beliefs are garbage would be immediately burnt at the stake?
      
      And I think the word you are looking for is “Incantation."

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         A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         @MK:
         Your response just confirmed it for me....atheists are humorless.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Ah - these constant attacks are supposed to be a joke.
            
            I don't believe you.

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               A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               @MK:
               
               What you call attacks are arguments in my debating  books,
               As arguments go, sometimes they tend to be sharpened hooks.
               So what is the problem when you yourself is the attracker primal
               Of anything that is beyond  the physical/material, thus spiritual.

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Can you not answer a straight question? Why does it upset you so much that some people do not believe the same as you?
                  
                  Never seen you debate anything ever.

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                     A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     @MK:
                     
                     The straight answer.... because while I was debating you were ranting. So how could you have seen me debatiing, when you were  so blinded by your own ranting brilliance.

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                        Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Odd - you stiil didn't  answer my question. Spouting your religious opinions is not "debating."

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            riddle666posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/109011#post2320254
            

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               A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               @riddle:
               Very funny ...which goes to show that atheists are not the only blind idiots in this world.

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                  riddle666posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Yea, you have the theists!

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                  A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  This thread, like so many others you've posted, along with that comment would show you are indeed attacking people who don't share your beliefs, that is your only intent and motive.
                  
                  Of course, if this were the other way round, you'd all be pounding the 'Report' button and shrieking persecution from the pulpit.

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                     A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     @TM:
                     What  took you so long to post such a troubling accusation that believers have a persecution complex?  Mark Knowles beat you to the wire by a few weeks.
                     FYI... I personally have not touched or pushed the "Report Button" even if some atheists have called me some kind of a religious  nutcase. I do pride myself of  not being a thin-skinned narcissist,  like some of the atheists that I frequently encounter on HubPages.

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                        A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        That's quite an accomplishment. I give you kudos for that. Well done.

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         brotheryochananposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Just as a matter of interest, you seem extremely offended, upset and, for want of a better word, vexed, that some people have the temerity, audacity and unbridled arrogance to not hold the same opinions and beliefs that you do.
         
         Why does this irritate you so much? Do you crave the days gone by, when anyone who had the massive effrontery to suggest that your beliefs are garbage would be immediately burnt at the stake?
         
         Talking to yourself again mark?

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      Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Will you please stop posting constant attacks on atheists, it's becoming very tiresome.

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         A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         @UW:
         I did not know that you are as humourless as Mark Knowles.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Please stop lying at us. Your Invisible Super Being will burn you for all eternity for that.
            
            Seriously - I can tell when some one is having a bit of fun or is genuinely upset. You are upset - why does it bother you so much that there are people who do not believe the nonsense you believe?

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               A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               @MK
               and with the above  post..... your narcissism has become oh so  clearly visible... in a world filled with fog that is oh so easily discernible...But then again you say what a bunch of nonsense...your beliefs but  the rest of us consider our incense.

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Ah - more joking huh? Very funny. Narcissism? How is that funny?
                  
                  Seriously - you are clearly upset that people don't believe what you believe - why?

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               brotheryochananposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Still telling people what they are all about.
               
               did the influence of the penny cause you to round up or down on the ego that you sell?

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   The day inevitably comes for all of us when we find out the truth. Or nothingness...

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      bBereanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I can see the dilemma.  For an unbeliever, if they are right, when they die there is nothing, so they will never know they were right.  If they are wrong.....well, they really wouldn't want to be wrong.  Perhaps that is what makes some so cranky. 

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         Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Well, what makes me cranky is the belief that the belief in an unseen and unheard power is mandatory for the eternal survival of anything. Think about it. What type of god would play that kind of a joke on a species it is said it claims to love?
         
         What makes a person want to believe such as that? I doubt there is some cosmic game going on that some will win and some will lose. What my fate is will, most likely, be the same as yours and everyone else's. The difference is..either way, I won't be disappointed. I can't imagine the reaction of a believer if there is more when they cross over and find out their threats of hell were pointless. I guess, it will feel like hell that they didn't get to say 'I told you so'.

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            bBereanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Why does someone believing that make you cranky?  If you are confident in your belief that theirs is not true, why should what you perceive to be their delusion trouble you so?  If you told me you think my beliefs will land me in an eternal (insert your worst nightmare here), I would not be at all concerned or upset by your opinion.  If I thought you truly believed it, I might even be touched by your concern in wanting to spare me from doom. I would simply pass on the offer to adopt your philosophy.  No harm, no foul, just two different beliefs.  As long as we both know we are potentially betting our eternity on this and are secure in our positions, we should be fine with disagreeing.

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               Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I think the problem comes up since those who believe others will go to hell seem perfectly cool with that. It's rather heinous.
               
               We all have beliefs. I think beliefs show the true character of the person who espouses them. So, someone who believes in hell for others comes off as callous and cruel. Why would anyone want to continue to be that way if they had a choice? Because they enjoy it. Which reinforces my belief that their belief is a serious character flaw.

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                  bBereanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Your premise is only valid if those who you are concerned about are making it up because they want it to be true.  If, instead they have come to believe it is the truth regardless of who approves, they would be disingenuous to pretend to believe otherwise for fear of offending.   Believing others are in danger, yet remaining silent would be cruel.  That being said, what would you have them do?  If they persist they are "shoving their beliefs down someone's throat," but if they back off or never speak up they are being cruel.  All you can do therefore is deliver the message and leave folks to do with it what they will.  You can't make someone believe and save them.   You can assist those who want it and respect the wishes of those who don't.

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                     Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     I'm afraid that anyone who would want to exist in that reality needs to rethink it. No decent person would be willing to step into a reality where this were true. I would think, if one believed that existed...where people are tortured simply for not believing in something they haven't seen or felt they would refuse to participate. Stand against the evil tyrant. Out of love for their fellow man. That is what I find hilarious from Christians. 'God so loved the world' that they believe he has hell waiting for most of it. Do any of you ponder the insanity?

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                        bBereanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        It seems to me your perspective requires a couple assumptions.  First, that we can change reality by what we want to have be true.  Second, that people have no opportunity to choose their destiny, therefore it is God's fault if they end up separated from Him for eternity.  Would that be a correct representation of your view?

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                           Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           The German people probably did not have the ability to change their leadership during the reign of Hitler. They did not have to participate. But they did participate. I would never have acquiesced to the extermination of human beings. Not even to save my life. Is there a difference? You choose to participate in this potential future extermination. How are you different from the bread supplier of Auschwitz? That may be a bad analogy. A better one, how are you different from a guard at Auschwitz? You willingly participate.

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                              bBereanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Wow.  I knew Christians were hated by many but you raise the bar.  You have clearly missed every point I have tried to make.  That level of misunderstanding requires you not to want to hear them.  Ironic that Mark has accused me more than once of being you.  Clearly we have nothing to discuss if we are that far apart.  Each response you've made you have upped the insults, but that one will be hard for you to top.  Rare that I take any of this personally, but that is lower than I have ever experienced from anyone so it is hard not to.

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                                 Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 It wasn't meant to be low. Mark thinks you are me? I guess those who create stock puppets assume we all do.
                                 
                                 Sorry if you were offended. To set the record straight I have nothing against Christians in general. I, specifically, find the philosophy of those who believe in heaven and hell disturbing.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   AN ATHEIST IN THE WOODS
   
   An atheist was walking through the woods.
   
   "What majestic trees!"
   "What powerful rivers!"
   "What beautiful animals!"
   He said to himself.
   
   As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot, grizzly bear charging towards him.
   
   He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on him. He looked over his shoulder again and the bear was even closer.
   
   He tripped and fell on the ground.
   
   He rolled over to pick himself up, but saw that the bear was right on top of him; reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him. At that instant the Atheist cried out, "Oh my God!"
   
   Time stopped. The bear froze. The forest was silent.
   
   As a bright light shone upon the man a voice came out of the sky, "You deny my existence for all these years, teach others I don't exist and even credit creation to cosmic accident. Do you really expect me to help you out of this predicament?"
   
   The atheist looked directly into the light, and said, "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps you could make the BEAR a Christian?"
   
   "Very well", said the voice.
   
   The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head and spoke:
   
   "Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from Thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen."

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      Zelkiiroposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Absolute tripe.
      
      Even the most mentally-incapable among English speakers knows "Oh my God!" is a figure of speech and not an admission of faith. It's no different from "Holy shit!" or "Good gravy!" or "Jumpin' Jehosephat!"

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         paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         My goodness! I posted this for the humor aspect only. Don't take everything so seriously. Life is meant to be enjoyed.
         
         Paradigmsearch departs thread...

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            Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I thought it was funny.

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         bBereanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Otherwise, your buying the story?   
         
         Btw Para, love that one.

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            Zelkiiroposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Of course not, but the entirety of that loathsome piece of propaganda revolves around the fact that shouting a meaningless phrase somehow denotes belief in what said phrase means in a literal sense, rather than it being a nonsensical utterance given a cohesive form. "Oh my God!" means the same exact thing as "Oh my Christmas cookies!" or "Oh my nipples!" when it comes to life-or-death situations.
            
            I should also make mention that the OP's poem is also terrible.

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               bBereanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Good thing it was just a joke.  I chuckled.

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               A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               @Zelkiroo:
               You just made the point I was making to Mark Knowles... that atheists are humourless narcissists.

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                  Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  And you are a hateful person,I  would rather be humourless. Although, your post did not have any humour whatsoever.

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                     A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     @UW:
                     I rest my case.

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                        Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Only a bad comedian laughs at his own jokes.

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                           A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           @UW:
                           
                           A comedian I am not....so as bad (your word not mine ) as my comedic rhymes to you, I am not dissuaded to try it again, when the occasion arises.

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                              Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              You didn't answer my question. How come?

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                  Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  You are particularly harsh. I'm not an atheist, but I wasn't amused by your poem and, although I think the world of paradigm search, that joke wasn't funny the first time I read it several months ago.

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                     A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     @Emile:
                     Well thank God you are not.

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                  Zelkiiroposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  You're right, I'm humorless. Which is why I have 3 comedies in my Top 10 Anime, 5 comedic games in my Top 10 Video Games, and 5 comedy movies in my Top 10 movies. And this is also why my reviews are done in a casual, comedic style.
                  
                  Yep. It's all because I'm humorless.

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                     A.Villarasaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     My apologies for not immediately sensing that you are a comdian to the core

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   stclairjackposted 11 years ago

   a sense of humor is completely wasted on the humorless,.... for the record,... i loved it,... grinned like a fat kid with a double order of McD french fries!................... SO THERE!~

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