Why do most Christians, Jews and Muslems not know HIS name?

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   andrew savageposted 11 years ago

   Why do most Christians, Jews and Muslims not know the name of the god they pray to?
   
   Do not attempt to answer this question if you are not aware that god, Jesus Christ, YHWH and Allah are not names- they are nomenclatures/titles used to protect the name from being taken in vain.

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      Disappearingheadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Why does he need a name? So he knows we are talking to him rather than some other god?

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         SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Hey DH, I prefere to call Him Father instead of His name. How about you bro?

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            Disappearingheadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Father works for me too.

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         andrew savageposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         You ought to know the name and phone number of the person you are calling prior to picking up the telephone, or you are just as well off as someone in trouble shouting into the dark.

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            Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            The scary thing is, you appear to be serious. I suppose you and the god whose name the rest of humanity doesn't know are on a first name basis? You guys are mates?

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               Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I may have put it differently, but I was just about to essentially the same reply, Emile. 
               
               To the OP, I pose the same question...do YOU know the true, right, and proper name of God?  What makes you believe that He would tell you but not millions of His followers over hundreds of generation?

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                  andrew savageposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  The point is not that I know the name of my deity and you do not know the name of your god- although that is a very good point. I'm sure millions of people cannot all be incorrect for saying that they know god, yet have failed in studying his words. God is not a name, nor is Jesus Christ- you do not know the name of the very person you call out to- it is like being on a telephone to talk to your mother but actually talking to someone you don't know, who does not speak the same language- who may as well be from some hole in Afghanistan.

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                     janesixposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     what is God's name?

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                     Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     You are right...God is not a name.  Jesus is, however.  Christ is a title that means Messiah.  Jesus was the name of the Father/Creator God who took human flesh and walked among us. 
                     
                     I generally don't engage in these conversations because they ultimately have no point other than to stir people up and get them fighting about whose god is better than whose.  I know my God (capitalized because He is the God above all gods and I shall have no others above Him, as directed by the ten commandments) and I know His Son, fully God/fully human, named Jesus.
                     
                     Enjoy your conversations here. 

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               andrew savageposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I did not state that only I know my deity's name, but yes I do know his name- or at least the name he left the members to know.

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            janesixposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I really doubt that. It's your intention and sincerity that counts, not what you call him.

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               andrew savageposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Intentions mean absolutely nothing at the end of the equation. Imagine it like this- when you pray that prayer can only be heard by you, the people you share it with and the deity to whom you are channeling through prayer. If you do not know the name, the identity and background of your deity, or the person you are contacting, the prayer is rarely ever heard.
               
               If you want to build a radio to speak to Martians, you are not going to point the radio antenna/dish at Venus right? Why would you place the god referred to as God before the father of Christ who explicitly commanded you to not take his name in vain? Nowhere in the bible does the father of the christ state that his name is god- this is something that man recently did. Not only does this commandment apply to using his name profanely upon discovering his name through your own studies, it also means not calling him by a name that is not his own, as it is vain to call out to someone by the wrong name with the expectation that they will turn around to you. For example, my name is Andrew, why would I answer anyone if they called out to me by God, Johnathan, the Easter Bunny, Santa, etcetera? Calling someone out in a usage of words that do not define that person is ultimately a vain act.
               Lastly, I would like to state that according to Thessalonians those who do not know who their god is end up in hell (whether hell is a place of the psyche or a physical reality, I leave you to interpret and decide- but I see it as the former)

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                  janesixposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Not.
                  
                  I know God personally, and you don't know what you're talking about.

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                     andrew savageposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     I'm sure you do, but why do you spell god with a capital G? God is not a name.

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                        janesixposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Because even though I know his name, I still think of him as God. He is not my buddy. He is my creator and my judge.

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                           andrew savageposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           So do you capitalize the F and M when you are referring to your father and mother?

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                              janesixposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Why does that matter?

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                              Jeramiposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Are you attempting to remove a splinter from your sister's eye?
                              
                              But to answer your question If I an writing to my father, asking him, Father will you do such and such for me, I do capitalize it.
                                 And when I speak to my father I enunciate a capital F when I say Father.

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                              Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              You commented once that the name is hidden so it won't be taken in vain. Did not vanity start this thread? Does not vanity drive your attempts to prove others do not know your god? 
                              
                              It doesn't matter what anyone calls what they believe to be the one true god. Isn't it vanity that drives any to think this god knows them and not another?
                              
                              My point (if not obvious) is that if this god would reveal himself to one, he will to all.  Unless you are so very, very special that even a god could see it. If you are that special, don't you think we'd be able to see it too? The great spiritual names throughout history are known. Their understanding made them famous throughout the ages. They aren't known because of a nanny nanny booboo message. They shared a depth of understanding that even though the average human can't grasp they could see. I'm not seeing any depth of understanding here.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Says who?    Are you a Jehovah's Witness?
      And do you know that a person can be a witness for Jehovah without being in the group that call themselves "Jehovah's Witnesses"?
      
      The Bible tells us God's name.   Actually, His names, plural.
      Do you wanna hear a list of them, since us Christians know His names?
      Ah...no.   I'm sure you can look that up online.
      I'm not gonna humor your negativity right now.
      But I'll tell you that He is the "I AM THAT I AM",  He is Jehovah, He is Jealous,  He is..........look it up for yourself;  it might be helpful if you'd read the Bible!
      
      I can agree that the name Allah is.....debateable as to its origin and usage.
      
      But one other thing I will tell you is this-------the name of Jesus is what the Lord says is the Name above all names.     So, no, "Jesus" is not just a title.   It is the only Name by which people can be saved.
      
      You seem to be asking a lot of questions that seem to try to debunk Christianity.
      What is your issue?

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         Zelkiiroposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         It's Arabic for "the One God." Where's the mystery?

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            andrew savageposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Even Allah is a nomenclature- a psdeonym that carefully places a veil over the very identity of the one god who created Adam and Eve, who desires man to place him before all other gods and to be treated as a father of our species. He and his followers do not reveal his name to those who are not ready to receive him into their hearts. It is essential in preventing the very name from being used vulgarly or in vain that he conceals his identity from those who do not believe in him. In a sense he has taken his name out of the phone book and left mankind with his words to carefully study and learn from. But his name is not God, nor is his son's name really Jesus Christ- these are pseudonyms. My point is that he is very cunning and clever, and he may be everywhere at once (figuratively or factually) but he does not need to answer to everyone- esp not those who stopped looking for him when they arrived to a new age three letter word with a capital G.

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      kessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Those who strive after a knowing a particular name of God, means that they do not know God
      
      God is exactly as his nature which is exactly as his Name,
      Which is common to all men.
      
      You miss the name because you have missed his nature.

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   andrew savageposted 11 years ago

   Does your covenant know his name?

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   janesixposted 11 years ago

   I know his name, he told me.

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      andrew savageposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I'm sure she did.

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         janesixposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         all the same

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   Zelkiiroposted 11 years ago

   It's because, apparently, no one knows what his name is.
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism
   
   You're worshipping someone who doesn't even have the decency to let you know his name. Zeus and Odin didn't make their followers go through this pompous, petty crap.

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      andrew savageposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you.

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   Jeramiposted 11 years ago

   When I first learned to speak I called my earthly father Daddy.
   And when I grew older I called him Dad. In a crowd of people, I could call out "Dad" and he heard me because he knew my voice. I never called to him using his sir name, yet he always came.
   
       However, I will add that I was once praying and in that prayer, I stated my confusion concerning who do I pray to, And I prayed to "the God of Abraham Isaac, and Jacob",  and it definitely seemed as though communication was greatly enhanced. But, sense then I just say Lord.  I’ve prayed to Jesus a few times and that just didn’t feel right. CAUSE  Jesus instructed us how to pray to … “Our Father which art in heaven  …”    But ??  that’s just me.  Cause it feels right to me.

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   Claire Evansposted 11 years ago

   That's strange.  Then it appears as if the disciples didn't know Jesus'/Yeshua's name.  I wonder why He didn't tell them His real name?

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