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CONTROVERSIAL People -- What is YOUR Problem??

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    gmwillamsposted 3 years ago

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    Controversy seeking people, WHAT IS your PROBLEM that you always need to stir up controversy???!!! HMMM??? Why do such vitriolic anti-religionists stir up debates with religionists minding their own business?  Why would anyone be so BORED as to constantly bring up hot button topics like ABORTION in a polite writing site forum???  I wonder about such people!!!  What do you have to say about such attention seeking people who must always drag out the most touchy issues to INCITE arguments???  They do it under the GUISE of wanting to engage in intelligent discussion...but watch out! if you disagree with their opinions.  Why do we give an audience to such venomous, vituperous people who only seek to amuse themselves with flamewars???  Let us boycott these empty, SOULLESS, un-intellectual polemicists and their so-called debates!!!

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    psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago

    Ultimately this is a forum by and for people who write hubs.  I always wonder what anyone else is even doing here.

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    calculus-geometryposted 3 years ago

    lol lol lol

    A thought-provoking question indeed, gmwillams.  I think you are right about the motives of "such people," but ultimately we must realize that "such people" are only providing the forum entertainment others want.  I suppose if Such Person's brand of entertainment was unwanted, Such Person would have been voted off the island a long time ago.  You can show your lack of support for such threads the same way I and many others do, by ignoring them.

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      gmwillamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

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      gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      This person is not me but a person who has recently signed on as me.   I would NEVER use the same username TWICE.  In fact, I would NEVER have TWO accounts, to me, that is unethical.  I never even posted this thread!

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        calculus-geometryposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Yes gmwilliams, I was well aware it was a parody of you.   Nonetheless, as rude as it is to slyly impersonate your style, I think the now departed troll makes a point, perhaps one you should reflect on when you are less angry.  If you insist on starting 10 repetitive posts a day to stir up controversy, you must develop the ability to take what you can dish out.  I do not understand posters who do certain activities all the time, yet get peeved when others do the exact same behavior.

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    Beth37posted 3 years ago

    I assumed this was not actually Gmwilliams, but someone mocking her as to get a reaction or to make a point. This doesn't have her profile pic and the person has a 33 hubscore. Someone recently did it to one of our other posters... started an account with her name and posted horrible things as if they were her. No?

    1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
      Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I was thinking the same thing.

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        Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Well at least you have to credit the "related discussions" generator. It posted two of the real Gmwilliams' threads at the bottom.

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          Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Isn't it illegal to impersonate someone?

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            Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

            I asked someone the other day if they had more than one account and they said no, that HPs would ban them if they did, and that HPs could tell... but I thought several ppl had alternate accts on here, so Im confused. I'm sure if this is not really Gmwilliams, their account will be closed quickly. Was this a big run on answer? Im watching my favorite show at the same time. lol

            1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
              Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              haha yep! Big run, but interesting. There are a few people I know that have more than one account. And I believe, if I remember right, that when I sign off of HP the option of "Sign in as  a different user?" is on the screen.

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                Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Oh yeah, Im sure you're able, but... you know, some ppl have separate accounts and they talk about it. Like they have one acct for one niche, and another for another... so I guess it's not "illegal", but Ive seen them close ppl down. I guess it was just for something they said on the forum. Has the OP been banned yet? If it's not GM, I think they'll be banned soon. Im sorry this is so boring. NEW GIRL'S on! Yea! smile

                1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
                  Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Yeah, boring thread. Yeah for NEW GIRL!  cool

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                    Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Im sure the thread's fine, I'm the boring one. I love this show so much. Have you ever seen it?

                2. gmwilliams profile image82
                  gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  No, it is not me, gmwilliams, Another person has used my username, gmwilliams.  I am in the process of reporting them to Team@HubPages.

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                    Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Why am I so tremendously gifted at troll recognition and gifted in virtually nothing else?

                  2. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
                    Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Good for you, gm.  Thanks for coming on to let us know.

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            gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            I think so.

            1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
              Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Yes, I believe it is.

    2. gmwilliams profile image82
      gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, this person is indeed mocking me to make a point.  I am reporting this to Team@HubPages as we speak.  This is uncalled for.  When I saw this, I was shocked.

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    Beth37posted 3 years ago

    Ok, Gm, let us know when you reported the offender... I want to time HPs. They're pretty fast.

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    Beth37posted 3 years ago

    Oh, it's already been done. Well that was anti-climactic.

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      gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I have already reported this and the "user" has been banned.  I am also requesting that Team@HubPages close this thread to further reply!  This behavior is totally uncalled for.

      1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
        Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Thank you GM for getting on this so quickly.

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          gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          My bad, the "person" signed on as gmwillams, not gmwilliams.  Still unethical behavior is WRONG!

          1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
            Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            OMGosh ! I did not even notice that. But, yes it was unethical and very wrong, for the intent was obviously to make us believe it was you.

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              gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              When I saw this thread, I was shocked.  I NEVER posted this=what gives.  When I saw this "thread", I had ENOUGH.  I immediately reported the person and thread to Team@HubPages.

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                Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I was shocked also. Beth knew it was not you and so did I when I read her post and checked out the hubber score and profile. Some people have nothing else to do but cause problems for others. Glad you jumped in and reported it right away.

                1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
                  Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Well ... it did kind of perk up the Sunday evening doldrums. lol

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                Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Maybe the posts you'd been making made you a bit of a target? The "Religious people are less intelligent than Atheists" thread hadn't been commented on for 5 mos. and you revived it just to call believers "close minded", "illogical" and one devout friend; "sad".

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              wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Didn't work too well - without an avatar at all, let alone the right one, a quick glance at the profile gave it all away.  It didn't seem "right", either.

              1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
                Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Right -- it was a pretty weak effort at that. The profile was a big give away. Pretty shabby thing for someone to try.

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Now what do we talk about?

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        Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        What an awkward thread. lol
        I do feel bad for gm. I think it's a bit cowardly to hit someone this way instead of just telling them how you feel about a situation.

        1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
          Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, it is cowardly. I have a hunch ...

          1. gmwilliams profile image82
            gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            You too.  I also have a hunch.......

            1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
              Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              hmmmm .... should one scratch a hunch or let it be?

              1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
                Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I will let it be. The more you scratch, the worse it gets.

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            Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Interesting. I really can't imagine who would do it. The troll who did this to another hubber, about a week ago, chose a Christian to flambe, this time it was a non-believer... so either it is one very bored non-partisan, or it was two different ppl.

            1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
              Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Same person, I am sure about that.

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                Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                So you saw the other thread as well? It was very harsh.

                1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
                  Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I remember the person had also just signed on, had a score of 33, and no avatar, and used a hubber's name. I do not remember much of the thread. But, this is the same type of thing -- a troll who wants to come in and stir up trouble.

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                    Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Yeah, it was the same. Well, let's hope it's over.

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              gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Oh no.........     They are everywhere, not only in the forums but they come to the comment section of hubs, adding their remarks.   I have seen it, not on my hubs but on other hubs.   Thankfully, they do not post in the question/answer section.    One who has signed on recently, harangued another hubber because the former disagreed with the hubber's comments.   SOMETHING NEEDS to be INSTITUTED to prevent them from the inception.

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                Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I don't really understand what you're saying. Do you mean you have seen this same troll parodying others? Or that there are a lot of ppl who are just trolling in other venues?

                1. gmwilliams profile image82
                  gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  No, there are people who troll hubs, leaving less than positive comments when they disagree with another hubber or with the hub author.  I have seen this.  A couple of years ago, there were trolls who posted a thread with the sole purpose of relentlessly attacking a long-time hubber of good standing.  These trolls incessantly harassed her, spreading information which caused this long-time hubber to be banned from HubPages.  The hubber was banned while they were not (to my knowledge).  Trolling comes in myriad forms.  Some are impersonations(new to me) while others are out to just do psychic harassment.

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                    Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Yeah, Ive had my hubs trolled before. I think that's kind of a norm. This seems a lot more pointed.
                    Well, I wish you all a more peaceful night. I think Im ready to hit the sack. Take care.

                  2. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
                    Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    That is really sad.

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                Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                When one posts in a hub comments, there is an IP address. We should have that on every post, everywhere.

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                  Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  That's a good idea. I wonder if it violates privacy or something like that.

                  1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
                    Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    I don't know. When I first noticed the IP address a few years ago I was upset b/c I did not want everyone to see my IP. In a way that is a violation of privacy, I think. That should not be shown to public, just to webmasters to scout out problems like this.

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                Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I am beginning to think the poster is not a troll... but, ... an ... ALIEN !

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                  Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  An illegal alien or an extra terrestrial?

                  1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
                    Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    lol  Actually, I was thinking of ETs

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    Beth37posted 3 years ago

    Huh, I just googled the thread that the troll started, mocking the Christian poster. Her last post was 9 days ago, the troll started the parody thread 8 days ago. It seems to me like she posted, then the next day, saw the trolls thread and the unkind remarks left on the thread and left. I don't think ppl realize how much being verbally beaten up by a group of peers hurts.

    Ok, going to bed for real. Night. smile

    1. gmwilliams profile image82
      gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Have a Blessed Night.  Doesn't it remind YOU of MEAN GIRLS?   This is mean behavior which is reminiscent of some junior high and high schoolers.   This also reminds me of the cheerleaders in the movie, Romy and Michelle High School Reunion.   The cheerleaders continuously harangued Romy and Michelle throughout high school.   Check out Romy and Michelle High School Reunion and Mean Girls, this trolling behavior reminds me of this.  Sadly, cyberbullying is quite prevalent these days, even from supposed adults.

    2. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
      Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Goodnight, Beth. Sleep well.

  8. aka-dj profile image76
    aka-djposted 3 years ago

    Did anyone note that it is spelled
    gmwillams? Missing the second "i"?

    A technicality, I know, but...

    1. gmwilliams profile image82
      gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      AKA, the person has been banned.  This trolling occurs all the time on HubPages Forums.  There are "hubbers" who sign on without any hubs nor followers yet they post in the forums.  They do this all the time.  Yes, I was parodied but I have seen WORSE things happen in the forums.   There should be a mandate that a hubber should have AT LEAST 50 FEATURED HUBS before being allowed to post in the forums or comment on hubs.  AKA, there are "hubbers" without any hubs who comment on hubs, some leaving very nasty comments.  Take care, AKA, and have a BLESSED NIGHT!

      1. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
        Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I totally agree that a" hubber should have AT LEAST 50 FEATURED HUBS before being allowed to post in the forums or comment on hubs." Other sites have similar policies and it really helps to keep spam and trolls from coming in and disrupting every thing.

        1. gmwilliams profile image82
          gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you Phyllis, couldn't have concurred with you more.  If this ruling was mandated and established, there would be no trolls in the forums.   If one have noticed the trolls who sign on have ZERO hubs, they sign on for the purpose of instigating havoc in the forums.  I also written to Team@HubPages, suggesting this.

      2. Phyllis Doyle profile image91
        Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Goodnight gm - have a good night. Thanks for chatting with us, I enjoyed it.

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    aka-djposted 3 years ago

    Eeeek. I would surely be banned, if 50 were the set minimum!

    I did used to have 50, but a few were suspended for minor breaches. Rather than fix them, I just deleted them.

    I got busy, with life, and bored with writing hubs a while back, so, I just left it all idle. Not sure what rekindled my interest again, but we'll see. I do have a few topics for hubs floating around in the cyberspace of my mind.

    BTW, thanks for the blessing, and good night to y'all too!
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