CONTROVERSIAL People -- What is YOUR Problem??

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gmwillamsposted 11 years ago

Controversy seeking people, WHAT IS your PROBLEM that you always need to stir up controversy???!!! HMMM??? Why do such vitriolic anti-religionists stir up debates with religionists minding their own business? Why would anyone be so BORED as to constantly bring up hot button topics like ABORTION in a polite writing site forum??? I wonder about such people!!! What do you have to say about such attention seeking people who must always drag out the most touchy issues to INCITE arguments??? They do it under the GUISE of wanting to engage in intelligent discussion...but watch out! if you disagree with their opinions. Why do we give an audience to such venomous, vituperous people who only seek to amuse themselves with flamewars??? Let us boycott these empty, SOULLESS, un-intellectual polemicists and their so-called debates!!!
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psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago
Ultimately this is a forum by and for people who write hubs. I always wonder what anyone else is even doing here.
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calculus-geometryposted 11 years ago

A thought-provoking question indeed, gmwillams. I think you are right about the motives of "such people," but ultimately we must realize that "such people" are only providing the forum entertainment others want. I suppose if Such Person's brand of entertainment was unwanted, Such Person would have been voted off the island a long time ago. You can show your lack of support for such threads the same way I and many others do, by ignoring them.
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  gmwillamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  This person is not me but a person who has recently signed on as me. I would NEVER use the same username TWICE. In fact, I would NEVER have TWO accounts, to me, that is unethical. I never even posted this thread!
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  calculus-geometryposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes gmwilliams, I was well aware it was a parody of you. Nonetheless, as rude as it is to slyly impersonate your style, I think the now departed troll makes a point, perhaps one you should reflect on when you are less angry. If you insist on starting 10 repetitive posts a day to stir up controversy, you must develop the ability to take what you can dish out. I do not understand posters who do certain activities all the time, yet get peeved when others do the exact same behavior.
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Beth37posted 11 years ago
I assumed this was not actually Gmwilliams, but someone mocking her as to get a reaction or to make a point. This doesn't have her profile pic and the person has a 33 hubscore. Someone recently did it to one of our other posters... started an account with her name and posted horrible things as if they were her. No?
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I was thinking the same thing.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Well at least you have to credit the "related discussions" generator. It posted two of the real Gmwilliams' threads at the bottom.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Isn't it illegal to impersonate someone?
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I asked someone the other day if they had more than one account and they said no, that HPs would ban them if they did, and that HPs could tell... but I thought several ppl had alternate accts on here, so Im confused. I'm sure if this is not really Gmwilliams, their account will be closed quickly. Was this a big run on answer? Im watching my favorite show at the same time. lol
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  haha yep! Big run, but interesting. There are a few people I know that have more than one account. And I believe, if I remember right, that when I sign off of HP the option of "Sign in as a different user?" is on the screen.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Oh yeah, Im sure you're able, but... you know, some ppl have separate accounts and they talk about it. Like they have one acct for one niche, and another for another... so I guess it's not "illegal", but Ive seen them close ppl down. I guess it was just for something they said on the forum. Has the OP been banned yet? If it's not GM, I think they'll be banned soon. Im sorry this is so boring. NEW GIRL'S on! Yea!
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, boring thread. Yeah for NEW GIRL!
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Im sure the thread's fine, I'm the boring one. I love this show so much. Have you ever seen it?
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  No, I do not watch TV very much. I see The Big Bang a few times each week and that is about it.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  No, it is not me, gmwilliams, Another person has used my username, gmwilliams. I am in the process of reporting them to Team@HubPages.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Why am I so tremendously gifted at troll recognition and gifted in virtually nothing else?
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  WD Curry lllposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Gifted? Really? Amazing! I would have never known that was a troll by the default image avatar, lack of hubs/activity, or that whoever it was just joined less than a day ago. I bet you are good at plenty of other things! No self-respecting sock puppet would show up without a face.
  
  Say hi to pshychoskinner for me!
  
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I caught that guy in the act too. lol
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  WD Curry lllposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Bwahahahahahahahaha! Sure you did. Just keep on believing that he didn't give it away so that even a naive, gullible, alluring, foxy babe couldn't miss it.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You did not give it to me, I *am troll-gifted. Why can't you just let me have this? It's like my own personal bionic... my mutant gene.
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  WD Curry lllposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Troll gifted? Okay your fantasy is now reality. Why agitate the disorder? I will humor you now that you are Bat Girl.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Not everyone can point out a troll. I do believe she is gifted with uncanny sight. If not for Beth, the OP would have caused further problems.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Aren't you nice! Not like that Curry guy. He doesn't even know I've always been Batgirl... since I was 8 years old. Who's your alter-ego Phyllis?
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  My alter-ego is Athena.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  
  Godess of wisdom, huh? No one will ever confuse us.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I have several alter egos, Queen of Darkness and Lady of Mystery. I am fascinated with the dark and the mysterious side of life, love horror movies and the macabre. As we are speaking, I am watching A Haunting on my dvd. Well kind ladies adieu and have a LOVELY and BLESSED night. It is such a great pleasure to have your acquaintance, Beth37 and Phyllis.
  
  What I should be doing is writing and revamping some hubs. I have 386 hubs, way short of my 500 hub goal. I had better stop galavanting in the forums for now and get cracking!
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Im a pantywaist, to be honest with you. I don't like anything scary... I never watch horror, though I do like a good thriller.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Horror movies are so soothing and thrilling. I even fell asleep during watching THE EXORCIST. I could do that now. When THE EXORCIST first came out, I had to sleep with the lights on for a week. In addition to the movie, I also read the book.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Totally freaked out by that admission. lol
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Horror movies don't scare me a bit. However, I cannot watch movies on concentration camps before going to bed. One time I watched the movie PLAYING FOR TIME and I was up the entire night. The images flashed through my mind. I also read the book THE FIVE CHIMNEYS by Olga Lengyel and could not go to bed that night. There was one book I could not finish because it is beyond horrific, THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO. No matter how hard I try, I cannot psychologically finish the book.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I can't watch too many concentration camp/Nazi movies either. The truth is, I can't tolerate human misery. I can't even watch the news. It breaks my heart and I end up crying. Then I usually end up sobbing something like, "You know I can't watch the news!" at my husband. He really should know better by now.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Well, you have a lot of wisdom -- all women do.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Is that true? Do women have more wisdom then men? You should definitely write a hub about that.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  OMGosh ! What a hub that would be ! It would probably create a lot of opinions in the comments.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You are awesome, GM. I love the dark side, too. I have one hub that was so dark I had to un-publish it. Have a good evening. I am outta here. Goodnight Beth and GM. Pleasure chatting with you.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Good night, Phyllis, walk in wisdom.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Good for you, gm. Thanks for coming on to let us know.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I think so.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I believe it is.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, this person is indeed mocking me to make a point. I am reporting this to Team@HubPages as we speak. This is uncalled for. When I saw this, I was shocked.
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Beth37posted 11 years ago
Ok, Gm, let us know when you reported the offender... I want to time HPs. They're pretty fast.
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Beth37posted 11 years ago
Oh, it's already been done. Well that was anti-climactic.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I have already reported this and the "user" has been banned. I am also requesting that Team@HubPages close this thread to further reply! This behavior is totally uncalled for.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you GM for getting on this so quickly.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  My bad, the "person" signed on as gmwillams, not gmwilliams. Still unethical behavior is WRONG!
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  OMGosh ! I did not even notice that. But, yes it was unethical and very wrong, for the intent was obviously to make us believe it was you.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  When I saw this thread, I was shocked. I NEVER posted this=what gives. When I saw this "thread", I had ENOUGH. I immediately reported the person and thread to Team@HubPages.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I was shocked also. Beth knew it was not you and so did I when I read her post and checked out the hubber score and profile. Some people have nothing else to do but cause problems for others. Glad you jumped in and reported it right away.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Well ... it did kind of perk up the Sunday evening doldrums.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe the posts you'd been making made you a bit of a target? The "Religious people are less intelligent than Atheists" thread hadn't been commented on for 5 mos. and you revived it just to call believers "close minded", "illogical" and one devout friend; "sad".
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  wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Didn't work too well - without an avatar at all, let alone the right one, a quick glance at the profile gave it all away. It didn't seem "right", either.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Right -- it was a pretty weak effort at that. The profile was a big give away. Pretty shabby thing for someone to try.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Now what do we talk about?
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  What an awkward thread. lol
  I do feel bad for gm. I think it's a bit cowardly to hit someone this way instead of just telling them how you feel about a situation.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, it is cowardly. I have a hunch ...
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You too. I also have a hunch.......
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  hmmmm .... should one scratch a hunch or let it be?
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I will let it be. The more you scratch, the worse it gets.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Interesting. I really can't imagine who would do it. The troll who did this to another hubber, about a week ago, chose a Christian to flambe, this time it was a non-believer... so either it is one very bored non-partisan, or it was two different ppl.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Same person, I am sure about that.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  So you saw the other thread as well? It was very harsh.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I remember the person had also just signed on, had a score of 33, and no avatar, and used a hubber's name. I do not remember much of the thread. But, this is the same type of thing -- a troll who wants to come in and stir up trouble.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, it was the same. Well, let's hope it's over.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Oh no......... They are everywhere, not only in the forums but they come to the comment section of hubs, adding their remarks. I have seen it, not on my hubs but on other hubs. Thankfully, they do not post in the question/answer section. One who has signed on recently, harangued another hubber because the former disagreed with the hubber's comments. SOMETHING NEEDS to be INSTITUTED to prevent them from the inception.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I don't really understand what you're saying. Do you mean you have seen this same troll parodying others? Or that there are a lot of ppl who are just trolling in other venues?
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  No, there are people who troll hubs, leaving less than positive comments when they disagree with another hubber or with the hub author. I have seen this. A couple of years ago, there were trolls who posted a thread with the sole purpose of relentlessly attacking a long-time hubber of good standing. These trolls incessantly harassed her, spreading information which caused this long-time hubber to be banned from HubPages. The hubber was banned while they were not (to my knowledge). Trolling comes in myriad forms. Some are impersonations(new to me) while others are out to just do psychic harassment.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, Ive had my hubs trolled before. I think that's kind of a norm. This seems a lot more pointed.
  Well, I wish you all a more peaceful night. I think Im ready to hit the sack. Take care.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That is really sad.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  When one posts in a hub comments, there is an IP address. We should have that on every post, everywhere.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's a good idea. I wonder if it violates privacy or something like that.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I don't know. When I first noticed the IP address a few years ago I was upset b/c I did not want everyone to see my IP. In a way that is a violation of privacy, I think. That should not be shown to public, just to webmasters to scout out problems like this.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I am beginning to think the poster is not a troll... but, ... an ... ALIEN !
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  An illegal alien or an extra terrestrial?
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Actually, I was thinking of ETs
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Beth37posted 11 years ago
Huh, I just googled the thread that the troll started, mocking the Christian poster. Her last post was 9 days ago, the troll started the parody thread 8 days ago. It seems to me like she posted, then the next day, saw the trolls thread and the unkind remarks left on the thread and left. I don't think ppl realize how much being verbally beaten up by a group of peers hurts.

Ok, going to bed for real. Night.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Have a Blessed Night. Doesn't it remind YOU of MEAN GIRLS? This is mean behavior which is reminiscent of some junior high and high schoolers. This also reminds me of the cheerleaders in the movie, Romy and Michelle High School Reunion. The cheerleaders continuously harangued Romy and Michelle throughout high school. Check out Romy and Michelle High School Reunion and Mean Girls, this trolling behavior reminds me of this. Sadly, cyberbullying is quite prevalent these days, even from supposed adults.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Goodnight, Beth. Sleep well.
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aka-djposted 11 years ago
Did anyone note that it is spelled
gmwillams? Missing the second "i"?

A technicality, I know, but...
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  AKA, the person has been banned. This trolling occurs all the time on HubPages Forums. There are "hubbers" who sign on without any hubs nor followers yet they post in the forums. They do this all the time. Yes, I was parodied but I have seen WORSE things happen in the forums. There should be a mandate that a hubber should have AT LEAST 50 FEATURED HUBS before being allowed to post in the forums or comment on hubs. AKA, there are "hubbers" without any hubs who comment on hubs, some leaving very nasty comments. Take care, AKA, and have a BLESSED NIGHT!
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I totally agree that a" hubber should have AT LEAST 50 FEATURED HUBS before being allowed to post in the forums or comment on hubs." Other sites have similar policies and it really helps to keep spam and trolls from coming in and disrupting every thing.
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you Phyllis, couldn't have concurred with you more. If this ruling was mandated and established, there would be no trolls in the forums. If one have noticed the trolls who sign on have ZERO hubs, they sign on for the purpose of instigating havoc in the forums. I also written to Team@HubPages, suggesting this.
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  Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Goodnight gm - have a good night. Thanks for chatting with us, I enjoyed it.
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aka-djposted 11 years ago
Eeeek. I would surely be banned, if 50 were the set minimum!

I did used to have 50, but a few were suspended for minor breaches. Rather than fix them, I just deleted them.

I got busy, with life, and bored with writing hubs a while back, so, I just left it all idle. Not sure what rekindled my interest again, but we'll see. I do have a few topics for hubs floating around in the cyberspace of my mind.

BTW, thanks for the blessing, and good night to y'all too!
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