Have gays a gay culture, is Christian is Culture?

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  1. Castlepaloma profile image75
    Castlepalomaposted 10 years ago

    If gays are a culture, then the gays population of the world is triple the population of Christian America.
    Why is there not a gay president or powers or other powers to stop allowing gays to be illegal in 80 countries. Watch! Pot made legal will be like the next gay marriage too.

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      Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      What does that mean?

      1. Castlepaloma profile image75
        Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        Culture is a  beliefs, or customs, arts, etc., of a particular society, group, place, or time. enlightenment and excellence of taste acquired by intellectual and aesthetic training. Its own beliefs, ways of life,: a way of thinking, working behavior in business or beauty prepared nutrient media; also in product.etc

        Much of the christian culture has harmed gay culture, if there were a gay culture like Christian culture. Mostly in the Laws and rights to Love each other and in their diversity way of life to serve all others.

        How has gays harmed Christians in anyway? Christain have harmed gays by way of marriage or to be voted into high public office, or to fight for a country, ect....every part of life in religion has harm gays and made them ill-legal in 80 predominate religious countries

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          Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

          You say Christians have made marriage illegal, but as you can see homosexuality is illegal in many countries that are not Christian countries at all.

          Africa (Christianity, Islam)

          1 Algeria
          2 Angola
          3 Benin
          4 Botswana
          5 Burundi
          6 Cameroon
          7 Comoros
          8 Egypt
          9 Eritrea
          10 Ethiopia
          11 Gambia
          12 Ghana
          13 Guinea
          14 Kenya
          15 Lesotho
          16 Liberia
          17 Libya
          18 Malawi (enforcement of law suspended)
          19 Mauritania
          20 Mauritius
          21 Morocco
          22 Mozambique
          23 Namibia
          24 Nigeria
          25 Sao Tome
          26 Senegal
          27 Seychelles
          28 Sierra Leone
          29 Somalia
          30 South Sudan
          31 Sudan
          32 Swaziland
          33 Tanzania
          34 Togo
          35 Tunisia
          36 Uganda
          37 Zambia
          38 Zimbabwe

          Asia, including the Middle East (Islam and Hinduism, Buddhism)

          39 Afghanistan
          40 Bangladesh
          41 Bhutan
          42 Brunei
          43 India
          44 Iran
          45 Kuwait
          46 Lebanon
          47 Malaysia
          48 Maldives
          49 Myanmar
          50 Oman
          51 Pakistan
          52 Palestine/Gaza Strip
          53 Qatar
          54 Saudi Arabia
          55 Singapore
          56 Sri Lanka
          57 Syria
          58 Turkmenistan
          59 United Arab Emirates
          60 Uzbekistan
          61 Yemen

          Two Asian/Middle Eastern countries were listed separately by ILGA under the heading “Legal status of homosexual acts unclear or uncertain”:

          In Iraq, (Islam) there is no law against homosexual acts, but homophobic violence is unchecked and self-appointed sharia judges reportedly have imposed sentences for homosexual behavior.
          In India, enforcement of the law against homosexual activity had been suspended by court action, but the Supreme Court overturned that ruling on Dec. 11, 2013, so India is back on the main list of countries with anti-homosexuality laws.

          62 Antigua & Barbuda
          63 Barbados
          64 Belize
          65 Dominica
          66 Grenada
          67 Guyana
          68 Jamaica
          69 St Kitts & Nevis
          70 St Lucia
          71 St Vincent & the Grenadines
          72 Trinidad & Tobago

          In the United States (Protestant, Catholicism), anti-sodomy laws were ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2003, but they are still on the books in 13 states: Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina,  Texas, Utah and Virginia. Conservative state legislators refuse to repeal the laws and, in some cases, police still enforce them.  Reportedly, in the past few years more than a dozen LGBT people were arrested for violating those laws, but the arrestees were freed because prosecutors won’t seek convictions based on defunct laws.

          Oceania (Christianity)

          73 Cook Islands
          74 Indonesia (Aceh Province and South Sumatra)
          75 Kirbati
          76 Nauru
          77 Palau
          78 Papua New Guinea
          79 Samoa
          80 Solomon Islands
          81 Tonga
          82 Tuvalu

          Europe (Christianity/Catholicism.)

          83 Northern Cyprus (Greek Orthodox/Sunni Muslim)

          Also in Europe and worth mentioning but not on that list of countries with laws against homosexuality are:

          Russia, (eastern orthodox) which enacted a law in 2013 prohibiting any positive mention of homosexuality in the presence of minors, including online;
          Ukraine, (Ukrainian Greek Catholic) which has considered, but so far has not adopted a similar law against “gay propaganda.”
          Moldova, (Christianity, Eastern orthodox) which adopted and then repealed such a law in 2013.

          1. EncephaloiDead profile image53
            EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            All very good points. It shows that much of our world is still engulfed with ignorance and bigotry and that we have a long way to go to educate people.

          2. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Stipulated to be true.

            What does that have to do with the claim that Christian culture is hurting gays (I presume that was what you are objecting to)?  Are you trying to say that Christianity is associated with being a third world, barbaric country still not very civilized and should be forgiven for their barbarism?  Vatican city is technically a country in many ways...

            1. Castlepaloma profile image75
              Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

              I've also stated it is ill-legal in 80 predominate religious countries
              Here are the predominate Christian countries
              Antiqua and Barbuda
              Cook Islands
              Papua New Guinea
              St Kitts & Nevis
              St Lucia
              St Vincent
              Solomon Islands
              Sao Tome and Principe
              Trinidad and Tobago
              Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus

              Many of these countries are small and the illegal law can be unclear. It was clear to me in Belize when ship of gays had booked to tour in Belize and they were refuse to dock anywhere on their soil.

              Laws are changing fast, yet I dare anyone to tell these gay's in these countries their ultimate love for each other is illegal.

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              Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

              I don't know that calling people barbaric, for having different value systems is wise. We, to them, are (I'm sure) considered barbaric for openly accepting all sexual orientations.

              Using such terms prematurely closes any avenue of communication on the subject.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                *shrug*  I'm sure you're right - that they call us barbarians even as they perform female genital mutilation and terrorize the girl's school down the road.  Even as they murder a girl for being raped or for having the wrong color skin.  Or jail/murder a loving couple for being gay.

                Some nations outgrew that kind of thing earlier than others, that's all.  There are all sorts of value systems; some require total obeisance, some allow more freedom to be yourself.

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                  Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Not saying I'd want to live in any of those countries you label barbaric, but that is your label that can easily be thrown back at you. Pointless words meant to rouse an emotional response. If it made you feel better to say it, great. But, seriously, other than possibly making yourself feel self righteous....what point did it serve?

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image75
                    Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                    I'm never going to get married until all gays can get married.

                    More likely, I will never get married.

                  2. janesix profile image60
                    janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                    Those things are barbaric.

                    What do you call them, "cultural differences"?

                    If a thing's wrong, say it's wrong, in my opinion. Genital mutilation, wrong. Inquisition, wrong. Human sacrifice, wrong. Overboard capitalism, wrong. Slavery, wrong.


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