The Art of Imagination is more powerful than Religion

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   Castlepalomaposted 10 years ago

   May make this into a hub.
   
   We are Living organism transforming energy, and we move using the same basic forces of the Stars and raindrops.  Our collection of stories and ideas serve a purpose and influence best through our love and respect into our most intimate Soul. Everything mankind has ever done,  was all once imagined. The arts have been the most influence tool for Religion, politics and nation worldwide. The visual art specks louder than the religious word.
   
   Ever since the dawn of civilization 1000s of years before religion was an Romantic thought or fear. The Arts has given us new ways of thinking, “We are what we think’ Christians have many handed down stories from Judaism and Hinduism and still claim they are the champion of souls. The art of Imagination is more Godlike, daring and soul filling faster than any group could make up stuff and separate people. An individual along with the private sector team can do a better job than any Government or Religion can do. Think for yourself first, don't believe what ever your group always tells you.
   
   I stated my case, it’s up to Religion to show me and a better wisdom for the world In which will turn into a spiritual age, I've envision Religion shrinking greatly. , it’s up to the Religious to consider preparing their lives, other than just for the afterlife.

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      Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hope I did not go over too many heads with this one.

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         Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Pretty sure the chance of that happening is slim.

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            Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            if you can't imagine it, it won't happen.

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               Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Oh, i don't know. That might be unfair to you. You could surprise me.

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                  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I have a pretty active imagination.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     I been a professional artist in fantasy and history , traveled 94 countries was world class in a few sports.Live a few live times of adventures.
                     
                     Just all to be told by Emire. I lack imagination,
                     
                     I thought you knew me better than that.

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                        Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        Where did I say you lacked imagination? I simply pointed out that I didn't think you could post something that went over other people's heads. Sheesh.

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                           Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           Oh Emery.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           How many religious will get it, because they think no body imagination is better then God, Their God is right and he is the best , not the million other Gods.
                           Even when Jesus said "the kingdom of heaven is within" They won't get that their imagination is the best for themselves. If they can not think for themselves, how can they think outside the box and it's limits of the bible?

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                              Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              I would reply that your inability to imagine their ability to imagine shows your shortcomings, not theirs.

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                                 Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 My inability to imagine the whole Universe and everything in it,
                                 all from a book.
                                 
                                 LOLOLLO
                                 
                                 With instruction FOR LIFE and AFTERLIFE on how to Love the World
                                 
                                 LOLOLOL

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                                    Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    What you think they think is apparently limited.That shows your limitations.

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                                       Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                       They are the ones that are too comforable with one book of all universal truths and all knowledge. I've kept trying to understand them, They stopped at- If you don't love Yahweh FIRST, OUR Lord first, Our only God in the Universe, your likely to going to HELL

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                                          Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                          What people say and what they think aren't always the same.

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                                       Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                       Too bad, "we are what we think" I f they can't walk their talk, then they are only leadiing us a place "Lost in Space", lead by more invisable men. or even Dr. Smith myself or the Christian science guy.

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                              oceansnsunsetsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              I believe in God, and I DO think nobody's imagination could be better than his.  Its logical.  IF God created everything, then everything is less than him. The very brain and talent that comes up with any art or imagination by default could not be greater than god.  Not only that, it wouldn't be in existence without god.  So people aren't necessarily just picking one over the other, one actually follows from another I think.  Imagine how much you or I could imagine, then imagine the mind that created those minds, and what IT could imagine?  Comparing the two examples or sides to this you give.

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                                 wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 "IF God created everything, then everything is less than him"
                                 
                                 Illogical.  There is no reason to think that a man cannot create something that will grow and mature into something greater than the man.  Certainly AI is far past the memory capacity of a man and can "think" faster to boot, yet is in it's infancy.  We will, one day, create a computer that can out think a man.

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                                    Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    The ability to process information isn't what constitutes life. Nor, does it constitute wisdom. A computer is simply a tool we use to enhance our quality of life.
                                    
                                    Unless you are assuming that the creation of Man equates to God attempting to enhance his quality of life I don't know how you feel comparing the two makes sense.
                                    
                                    Actually, your argument is quite odd. Most atheist leaning agnostics attempt to claim that Man is not unique because of his intelligence. It is our very intelligence which pulls theistic leaning agnostics away from atheism. Yet, you appear to be claiming that intelligence, itself, is the mark of creation.

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                                    oceansnsunsetsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    So you would think such a computer is more than the man that created it?  We already have machines that can outwork a man's physical abilities. 
                                    
                                    If it got to the point of a war against each other, are you imagining a type of science fiction plot where computers are left and humans have gone extinct?  How is that better?  What causes the computer to get a will within it to want to overtake the humanity in the first place?  Even IF there could, and the God exists that we were speaking of in the first place, couldn't that god still technically put it all under his thumb in an instant if he wanted to (Where power is concerned, etc?)
                                    
                                    What if nuclear bombs were coming towards us, and we were in process of taking out the other country or countries with our own? I am surprised sometimes we haven't taken most of ourselves "out" of the whole equation sometimes!  How are the bombs "greater than", because of power in that case?  These are some of the kinds of questions I think that would need to be answered for that point to carry through, in my opinion. 
                                    
                                    I suppose that it depends in part on what you mean by greater or less than in these cases.  I have heard of the things you are talking about, but never equated them as being better than their creator.

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      oceansnsunsetsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps there is room for both art or imagination, AND the spiritual.  I am not sure it needs to be an either or.  Perhaps you could explain more what you mean exactly?  I am not sure I got your point.

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         Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Art is more like a creattive culture, Religion is a culture group that people have created or co create an imagine of  God based from their imagintion.
         Religion is often an anicent Spirituality or type of  philosophy beated into each person repeatally by limmit knowlege from a books often wrongly translated into other third. fourth and so on hand me downs from other Religions.
         
         No worries computers will never take over Man. we are their creators, we brought them onto this world and we can take them out, like Gods.
         
         Spirituality manifests itself from the 99% unknown into each of our Ego self ( The self of right to know) Our understanding that life expands begin inwardness first.  It is far move evolved than the limitations of our five physical senses.  one’s self in relationship to its perceived creator an ongoing journey and learning experience from the inside out.
         
         Creativity is the action and ability to give idea, impulse or intuition. It can be an extension of something that already exists or change something in a new and innovating way. It starts out as all things do, as an energy, This non physical energy is spiritual. It comes to us from the infinite source of supply. Some call this God, some call it the divine, some call it the universe.
         On Hubpage we are being expressing our Creativity’s desires and needs right now. Art is the Creativity and can be expressed infinitely,  not to be limited.
         
         The Imagination is one’s ability to perceive, intuitively sense, form ideas, create mental images and sensations of potential things and or events. The imagination is infinite, all potential perceptions that can become reality. Everything begins in one’s imagination.
         
         My pleasure and dream with deadline are concepts of creativity, imagination, spirituality and the overall human potential. Our thoughts affect our bodies just as they affect our physical world.
         
         To me Religion lives too much in the pass and not enough present and future with too many false threats that the End is Near, Fear of Hell is the greatest drawing card to the churches or Religion
         
         We are here to co-create our physical reality, this makes us responsible for creating the manuals for our own lives and own universe that expands and so dose the outer Universe.
         
         Or be on hold from your pastor,waiting for a message from your one and only God, what do I care if blind faith is your all be all. TowardS all other books, towards ways of learning and all ways of thinking.
         Try . all you have in life is what you give away.

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