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   SharmaRoshanposted 10 years ago

   What's your practice to stay in the soul-consciousness? ( Mention any Three).
   
   > I sit in silence for two minutes, before I begin any work.
   
   > I meditate on soul-consciousness at least twice a day.
   
   > I try to maintain a circle ( people) that practice soul-consciousness.

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      Jomine Joseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      What is "'soul'-consciousness"?

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         SharmaRoshanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         What is "'soul'-consciousness"?
         
         Very Gud Eve. Jose.
         
         We all have a spot, i.e. beyond the mind, between the eye-brow. Its also termed as Third-Eye of the human.
         
         When, the third-eye opens, the person can see the world with a completely different perception, beyond mind.
         
         When the narrative identity of a person relates itself, with the soul, rather than the activities of the mind, body and emotions, its called " soul-consciousness".

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            Jomine Joseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry, I didn't get you. Between the two brows we have skin, below it is a layer of fat, below it muscle, below it some connective tissue, below skull with the sinuses, below the three layers of brain coverings (meninges), below the frontal lobe of brain. So where is the spot?
            What is "soul"?

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               Sed-meposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               You sound like ATM/Ed.

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                  Jomine Joseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Not at all. I know ATM, two years before we had a big fight (for which I got a ban from the forum for a few months) and after a few months I left hubpages. By the way I didn't see him this time, where is he? Who is this Ed?

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                     Sed-meposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     You can't be them, you have an accent.
                     So where are you from?

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               wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               I would also wonder what biological/physical form the receptors in this "third eye" are?  What do they detect?  It can't be the visible frequencies of light as skin blocks those - is it X-rays?  Magnetism?  Temperature?  Neutrinos?  Skin is either transparent or conductive to all of those...

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                  Jomine Joseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I think he won't be answering any further.

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                  lone77starposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Always trying to pound the spiritual peg into a physical hole. It won't fit.

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                     wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     "Eye".  "Opens".  "Eyebrows".
                     
                     These are all physical properties, things or events.  If you wish to discuss imaginary things such as spirituality then don't use words that clearly indicate physical items.

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                        Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        It is the seat of the soul where awareness, energy and life originates. It exists within your mind whether you acknowledge it or not… and if you would try to meditate you would sense it just fine. When you focus on God with love in your heart you will feel his response.  If you do not try, you will never know. If you keep the door shut it will never be opened. If you refuse to acknowledge your inner life, you will never find heaven which is perceived from within at the location of the third eye. Focus there and feel joy, peacefulness and calmness.
                        Pardon My Craziness.

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                           wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           "It is the seat of the soul..."
                           
                           And this it is a spot between the eyebrows, a spot where nothing but skin and bone is to be found.  A spot with no receptors of any kind to detect anything.  A spot that has been extensively researched and is no different than any other spot on the skull.  Is that what you are claiming is now in the mind and can only be accessed by believing in the Christian myth of a god from another universe? 
                           
                           PMC

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                              Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Huh?
                              It has noting to do with the physical or the dogmas of Christianity.
                              Hint: awareness. Close your eyes! What do you perceive?
                              PMC
                              
                              (BFN…Goin' swimming.)

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                                 wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 With eyes closed, I detect sound, temperature, pressure on various points of my body, smell, sometimes taste.  I detect some of my bodies involuntary movements such as breathing, heartbeat, etc.  I do NOT detect another world with a god in it.
                                 
                                 PMC

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                                    Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    What is doing the sensing of the temperature and pressure etc? Answer: Your Self.
                                    Once you shut off these distractions you are meditating. It is fun to just sit (your back should be straight) with pure awareness. It is freeing. Focus at the sixth chakra within your mind, located just behind the eyebrows slightly above the eyes.
                                    
                                    If you focus on Creator you will draw His response. Since He is in Spirit you will get a response on that level. You will intuit what is coming into your awareness in Spirit and not from yourself or your own thoughts.
                                    Have faith and be patient. (Twenty minutes a day for beginners.)
                                    Try it, you might like it.
                                    
                                    PMC

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                                       Jomine Joseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                       Get a glass of vodka and you can appreciate creator better.

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                           SharmaRoshanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           Hi, Kathryn Lots of love and respect for you.
                           
                           I appreciate your views on soul.
                           
                           Yes we all are born with the soul,and the astral body.
                           
                           But unless the astral body is fully developed, and detached from the physical body, its impossible to realize the soul. This is the whole process of evolution.
                           
                           We are in that time and space, where all the information is access on google. Still it doesn't mean anything, unless we have a first hand experience of it.
                           
                           Still I appreciate any further comment on this, and I would love to reply, or hear any suggestion from your side.

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                              Jomine Joseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Thanks for the laugh,  only rarely people in religious forums make such good jokes.

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                              Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Thank you. Lots of love and respect for you too.
                              Keep up the good fight.

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                  SharmaRoshanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I would also wonder what biological/physical form the receptors in this "third eye" are?  What do they detect?  It can't be the visible frequencies of light as skin blocks those - is it X-rays?  Magnetism?  Temperature?  Neutrinos?  Skin is either transparent or conductive to all of those...
                  
                  Hello brother. Before I start, I would like to know, whats your idea and intent about life?
                  
                  Because unless you had any spiritual experience, ll my answers will fall on the deaf ears.
                  
                  With all due respect, its "Third eye" is the world, beyond the comprehension of mind. Only the one's who had any spiritual experience for themselves can understand.
                  
                  Before I come to your query in length. Let me understand, at what point your mind has been evolved?
                  
                  Whats your intent for life, and what idea do you carry for Life?

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                     wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     We know that life is a chemical process; we do NOT know that there is any "spirituality" beyond that.  The base "intent" of most life is to stay alive and to reproduce.
                     
                     I have had the same spiritual experiences you have, although I was able to deduce that they were normal, everyday, experiences being enhanced by either false perceptions and/or imagination.
                     
                     If the "third eye" is another world, then lets investigate it.  Except that you claim it is incomprehensible by human minds and thus the "third eye" behind our eyebrows cannot detect it.
                     
                     My mind is AT LEAST as evolved as yours is.  If you still live in your imagination, seeing and believing in things that are not there then I would have to say that you lag far behind in the evolutionary process of the brain.  Such activity is counter to the concept of increased reproduction and thus indicates a lower degree of evolving.

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                        SharmaRoshanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        We know that life is a chemical process; we do NOT know that there is any "spirituality" beyond that.  The base "intent" of most life is to stay alive and to reproduce.
                        
                        Very true. The part of spirituality is only understood, when you develop a soul. Soul is developed. We are not born with the soul. We need to have enough life's experience, and a deeper intent to connect to the supreme soul. This allows the astral body to free from all the past emotions, and the net, i.e. astral body that prevents the narrative identity "I" to look at the soul, is visible to us.
                        
                        
                        My mind is AT LEAST as evolved as yours is.  If you still live in your imagination, seeing and believing in things that are not there then I would have to say that you lag far behind in the evolutionary process of the brain.  Such activity is counter to the concept of increased reproduction and thus indicates a lower degree of evolving.
                        
                        We reproduce, because we think, thats how life works, and thats what we see with the eyes. When we develop the third eye, that can look at life, from the deeper perspective, we look at the same world, and we do reproduce, but the whole perception to look at the world change.

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                           Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           "We are not born with the soul."
                           Then what animates us?
                           Of course we were born with a soul!  We ARE soul. We are developing awareness of it by focusing on the spiritual aspect of our beings and all life and on God. The spiritual aspect of our beings is the soul. Jesus said, "Know ye not that ye are gods?" Of course, we are *becoming* god-like / soul-aware /Self-realized, as we are not there yet…
                           Obviously.
                           
                           Pardon My Craziness

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                              Jomine Joseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Let the soul of the chicken I ate yesterday rest in peace.

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                                 Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 Exactly.

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                                    Jomine Joseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    Yes and let the bacterial soul burn in hell.
                                    What about prions and viruses, have they got soul? I want to include them in my prayers!

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                                       Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                       "Whats your intent for life, and what idea do you carry for Life?"
                                       I think I will just go and contemplate this.

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                  arksysposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  if you have time please view the following video ... it may answer a question or two. if it doesn't ... well at least i tried.
                  
                  http://www.ted.com/speakers/jill_bolte_taylor
                  
                  enjoy!

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               SharmaRoshanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               From Where does the the two brows with a skin, below it is a layer of fat, below it muscle, below it some connective tissue, below skull with the sinuses, below the three layers of brain coverings (meninges), below the frontal lobe of brain, comes from?
               
               From where do you come from?
               
               What happens, when your body looses its breathe?
               
               Whats the purpose of your existence?
               
               Do you have any reason, or you are came on the existence from no where?
               
               Jose, on the previous discussions, few of your query are still pending?
               
               Please answer the above question, before you raise a new query.

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                  Jomine Joseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  From a zygote formed by the union of a sperm and egg, you want me to discuss embrology?
                  
                  
                  From my mother's womb, where else?
                  
                  
                  It dies. The elements separate itself and go away.
                  
                  
                  We make a car for a purpose,  but I am not made.
                  
                  
                  I didn't chose to come into existence, it's my parents reason.
                  
                  Now answer the queries.

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                     SharmaRoshanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Mr. Jose ask to the 5 year old child, and he will reply the way you did.
                     
                     Brother, if a man can make a car for purpose, do you think that whole humanity exist on this earth without purpose?

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                        Jomine Joseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        He won't because he has no idea about embrology.
                        Humanity is not "made" by anyone, so who is assigning 'purpose'?

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      manatita44posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Brother Sharma. Good to see you here again.
      
      Here is my order.
      
      1. Faith in Something Higher. A Divine Ground, a Perenial Entity in which all live and have their Being. Some call this Allah, Brahman or God...
      
      2. Satsang (spiritual practices, to include singing, prayer and meditation, alone and in group Satsang).
      
      3. Conscious vigilance with all I meet, animal, trees or human on the streets, in buses,trains ... at work and also on my way home.
      
      4. Soulful services to others. In fact all four blend consistently.

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   psycheskinnerposted 10 years ago

   To be fair, if OP is speaking to other people within a specific philosophy/spirituality/tradition it would be clearer if it were specified up front. Then those to whom the issue is irrelevant can easily avoid it, which out of respect I would they hope they would.

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      Sed-meposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, I missed your post somehow.
      You're right. I never read the first post, just responded to the last post made.
      There are 21 pages of off topic remarks on the Mosul thread. Not a big deal if they happened naturally, but offensive when done purposefully.
      
      *exiting*

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years ago

   SharmaRoshan
   Hi and welcome!  I meditate! It is the only thing that saves me in the world. Of course, soul-consciousness is empty without devotion to mighty Triple O! (Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient force of the Universe:  One can think of It as Father, Mother and/or Beloved Friend. It responds within us as love, peace and wisdom and often grants prayers… some sooner than later and vice versa.) I call Him mighty Triple O and think of Him as my friend. I read the Gita, (as well as the Bible) and love it.
   TWISI
   Thanks for joining us.

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      SharmaRoshanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hii, kathryn, Good wishes for you.

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   lone77starposted 10 years ago

   SharmaRoshan, what a beautiful question. I think your number 3 is a good one to start with. I moved halfway around to planet to be with a woman who was more spiritual than I, and more loving. I hope I have improved by her example. I think I have.
   
   I look with self-awareness to assess my level of humility. And I remind myself as often as possible to continue to do this. Humility helps to remove self-concern (ego), and combined with love, helps to open the "third eye" -- the spiritual sense of awareness of the "upper world" of which physical reality is only a small part.
   
   Recently, I have learned of authentic Kabbalah and how to convert Ego into altruistic love. This turns on soul-consciousness more than anything I've experienced in years.
   
   The following short video is a great introduction for those who are ready.
   
   http://perceivingreality.com

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