The Universe Doesn't Care - We Are All Lab Rats

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   This is what I believe.
   
   What say you?

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      DzyMsLizzyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I have said similar things in the past. I usually express it in these terms:
      
      "We are all nothing more than pawns in a cosmic game of chess."

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         paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         .
         I agree. To think we are the highest intellect in the universe is hubris.
         
         To think we are the highest intellect here is also hubris.
         
         Therefore...

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   psycheskinnerposted 8 years ago

   We are wild rats.  There are worse things to be.

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      paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      How the heck are you these days anyway?

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   What? No one cares that the universe doesn't care? I mean I agree, but wouldn't someone like to chat?

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      Emile Rposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The universe sent a message. 'Hello pudding.' Pudding. Sounds like a term of endearment. Maybe you're its favorite lab rat?

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         paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         One does work at it and wonder. Basically we are all scr#wed. No hope. No nothing at all. Death equals death. I don't like that and I am willing to play.

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            Emile Rposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Well, i don't think we're screwed. We're simply wrapped in an enigma. Might as well enjoy the moment.

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               paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               No. We are I. Are we extinguished?

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   I'm good (I hope) for another 20 years. I'm really interested in what others think.

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   I really would like to chat with anyone who disagrees with the title of this thread.

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      Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You already know what I think... I believe there is one hope. Without this hope, I don't think I could face the difficulties life throws at us. There are some here now who are facing days so dark, they must feel like the pain will never end. I've talked to them. I know their pain is overwhelming, but God's mercies are new every morning. Each day offers a new chance to start over and do things differently. You know what? I'm reading this book right now that I bet you would actually love. It's about changing our stories. <3
      http://www.amazon.com/Million-Miles-Tho … 1400202981

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         Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         We are the rat race,after all.

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            paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            You can do better than that.

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               Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               One time rats exceeded humans as the largest populated manmal on earth.
               So much so that half of Europe in
               the middle ages
               were wiped out
               by the plaque
               related to over rat population.
               
               Man experimended on rats to see why
               their survival rate
               was so great.
               They found their
               behavior living
               were similar to
               humans. When
               over crowded
               rats would kill
               more often.
               ,steal, act more criminal in general. Mother
               would love and
               care less for their young.
               
               Yeh! Folks welcome to the
               rat race

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         paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Sed-me, I so like you. Hope and want does not equate to what is real.

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            Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Indeed.

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   Sed-meposted 8 years ago

   And I like you too.

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      paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The Universe Doesn't Care - We Are All Lab Rats
      
      Let us start.

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         Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         If you mean talking, then you must speak plainly. You are a bit cerebral and sometimes a bit over my head... If we are to discuss anything, dumb it down por favor.

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            paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            What I am listening to now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcjpags … cjpags7JT8

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   And now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AT_Pbtyid0

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   And now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vQpW9XRiyM

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      Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ah, Glory Days. Who knew it had such a long intro?

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         paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Getting slammed with 30-sec ads, jeez. Elton John ~ I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6KYAVn8ons

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         paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         So, rugrat, how seriously you want to play?

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            Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I don't know the rules... I don't even know the game, and I'm watching the last few episodes of Breaking Bad... so I'm not sure if I'll be much competition.

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               paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Competition for what? There is no competition.

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                  Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Well you said "Are you ready to play?" That usually means a game and a game is usually a competition. I told you you talked over my head.

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                     paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     No.

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                     paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     You are a lot smarter than you apparently think. Stop that.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

   The "universe" is the same as God?
   If the the answer is yes...
   then I disagree.

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      paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Actually, lets sort it out.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       God cares.

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          paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          No. Willing to talk.

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             Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

             Okay, okay… I think God is watching every baby that is born and is really enjoying the drama of its life unfold.
             - wouldn't you if you were omnipotent?
             
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                paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Why do you think an entity is watching over our species?

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                   Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                   I think God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. He is in a position to know everything all the time. I like to think he is enjoying the show (whichever and wherever) like a soap opera he can follow at will.
                   Why do you?

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                      wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                      Is that why you think god is watching?  Because you "like to think" so?
                      
                      Somehow, it seems so...insufficient.

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                         Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                         What would be "sufficient?"
                         Seeing God standing there in front of you and then telling everyone, "Here He is!" ?
                         What if God were more subtle, manifesting in some other way than a tangible, limited form?
                         
                         You also have an expectation, wilderness.
                         And what you expect is based on your imagination.

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                         Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                         Wild
                         
                         LO

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Why do I what?

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    I wish to give respect.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       You wish to give respect but can't figure out why you should when he does nothing to help us whatsoever.
       Why do you have the expectation?

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    Of course, I think there is an entity because I imagine there is. It is a very powerful urge that some of us have: to believe there is a watching entity.
    I wonder if it is a universal urge.
    Are some prone to it and others not?
    Based on what do you suppose?
    Childhood conditioning?
    Suggestions from church… handed down from the days of Jesus?
    And before that God had a heck of a time trying to get mankind to stop worshipping idols and other gods… which of course they merely imagined to be real.
    So you have asked a very profound question.
    The answer might be better offered by others.
    ...especially sed-me.

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       paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I am listening.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    There seems to be a sorting problem as to posts.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Do you believe there is a watching entity
       and why do you believe there is?
       Do you just sense it?
       Or do you know you are definitely guessing.

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          paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          -1  on that.

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             Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

             repeating:
             You wish to give respect, but can't figure out why you should when he does nothing to help us whatsoever or whatever….
             
             Why do you have expectation?

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    K. I just meant to give respect to you and your beliefs.
    
    W. How the hell are you? Been a long time.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       You mean my beliefs based on my imagination, which wilderness would agree with.
       Sigh. Our ignorance is what is not fair.
       Nothing more to say.
       Thanks for the respect.
       BFN

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          paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I am willing to work with you.

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             Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

             Okay. Once upon a time a baby was born...
             Want to hear more?
             ( I mean a random baby…)

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                paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Now you have lost me. ?

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                Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                The baby was instructed upon the ways of the world and nothing else.
                What hope was there for this person when he grew to be an adult?
                There is so much to discuss, but one has to want to know the truth of the matter. Until that time it will seem like God doesn't care and that we are all lab rats, when the opposite is true.
                What actually went wrong in the Garden of Eden?
                That is the real question.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Meanwhile, W, you there?

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    Sometimes, I wonder if childhood is not the Garden of Eden.
    Then the hormones of teenager-hood take us out of this garden.
    
    For instance, I remember seeing images that were not really there, like beautiful green hedges with butterflies and flowers all over them.
    I told my mother what I saw and she did't know what I was talking about. It was not my imagination. I believe I saw beyond this world as a child.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    How can children be so happy? They are infused with a joy of life. They bounce back from disappointments and bad situations and love their parents even when the parents are abusive.
    They are born kind and empathetic and with great potential for happiness.
    I remember standing so still for a very long time waiting for a butterfly to land on my hand containing sugar water. I don't remember If one ever did, but talk about patience! Children are not naturally restless. They are calm and open when allowed to be.
    They actually have a natural propensity to believe in God.
    What if we taught them to confer with God consciously through intuition?
    They could find him… God would communicate with them and guide them…
      towards what?
    I believe someday we will know.
    Thats all.
    Meanwhile we just have to be patient with ourselves and each other...
    and our ignorance.
    Which explains why I said, "God cares."
    Thanks for the topic, Paradigmsearch.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    I'm sorry, paradigmsearch.
    You probably just wanted to chat.
    I don't know what is wrong with me!
    
    I'm fighting a really weird bug, making me feel very spacey.
      I really wonder where all the atheists are!
    No one has refuted me here.
    Wow.
    
    I am glad we are having rain and stormy whether. Not enough but, some.
    I don't know about where you live in CA but here in So Cal it is really great:
    Blue skies, green grass and trees... all signs of drought gone!
    
    PS What we have here are Hubris Pages!
    ...and thats okay!

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       paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       All is well. You are still one of the privileged few that I still  follow.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Meanwhile... As fellow lab rats, maybe we can figure out some way to get The Experimenter's attention in a positive way. Maybe figure out something that The Experimenter wants. And then providing it, which will give us a positive response in reciprocation? Any ideas?

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       Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I remember once a pastor of mine said "So many ppl think God's watching them b/c He's waiting for them to slip up. Like Santa with his good and bad list. But the truth is, God adores you so much, He can't take His eyes off of you."
       
       You don't have to 'get His attention' PS. You already have it. He loves you.

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          paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I have once again decided that you need to be watched and am following you.
          
          As to the Experimenter, there are over 7 billion of us. Hello, fellow bacterium.

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             Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

             To a layperson bacteria is an annoyance... something that is seldom thought of and never seen.
             To a scientist, microscopic matter is of the utmost importance and his eye is more often on the microscope than off.

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                paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                It's an interesting petri dish we live in.

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                   Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                   Mmm hmmm.

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                      paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                      You are so good of heart. I truly do wish the best for you.
                      
                      This also seems to be one of the kinder, gentler religion threads. I like that.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Wow!

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          paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Yes.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Looking for conversation here. Any philosophical subject will do.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    No one?

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    What the F#ck to do with the rest of my life... Mulling things over.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Last call. Oh, well.
    
    If you seriously have a question about your thoughts (or even naught). Let us play.
    
    Otherwise, more thoughts of mine will continue.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Got more?

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Come on. Let's do a real have fun conversation. Offer expires in probably 6 hours.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    I chat all points of view.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Don't make me search you out. Benign.

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       Emile Rposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Ok. I notice you put up these lab rat threads intermittently. Is there a catalyst which causes this? Are you a happy lab rat most days, but become pensive concerning your assumed plight on other days and seek conversation on the matter?

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          paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Yes.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Here.

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       Emile Rposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I can't say I've ever felt like a lab rat. Although I have been known to rail at the fates. When the whole thing seems overwhelming I always tell myself there will come a time where it will all make sense.
       
       Not much help. I know.

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          paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Agreed.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Aside from the fact the title is true. Sorry.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Still no one wants to play?
    
    We have it here.
    
    Pro or Con.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    Did you know rats like to be tickled? They laugh when you rub their bellies… so I heard. not sure… never seen it.

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       paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       We seem to be disparate.

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I thought we were rats.
          - special (edit: unique) ones.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    My labratness continues (spellchecker has hissy fit)...

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Meanwhile, checked the morning news. I am so tired of that cr@p. Our species is such a mess.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Apparently we are fallen rats. We used to be more special and unique. Then something happened. Was it the Experimenters fault?
       I think so.
       Others will disagree.
       The Experimenter gave us quite a challenge if you ask me.

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          paradigm searchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I am also in SoCal.

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             Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

             really? Let me guess…
             Malibu.

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                Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                The West side?
                OC?
                The Valley?
                off the 605… the 110? The 210?
                These episodes always cracked me up big time:
                https://screen.yahoo.com/californians-d … 00032.html

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    paradigm searchposted 8 years ago

    I like the forum changes.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       What were the changes?

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    paradigm searchposted 8 years ago

    Does anyone here really dispute we are all lab rats? I'd really like to hear it. Not only that, I want you to be right.

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    paradigm searchposted 8 years ago

    Or we can meandering chat on a rare friendly thread.

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       Emile Rposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       ok. i'm starting to feel like a lab rat myself.

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          paradigm searchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          One really does wonder.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    Does the Experimenter know how to save us ?
    No.
    But our Creator does.
    Our Creator has a plan.
    He knows how to bring us back into the realm of Spirit from whence we originated.
    All we gave to do is pay attention to spiritual matters.
    The Lords Prayer gives a good hint.
    Our Creator's kingdom is in heaven. Heaven comes as His will is done.
    We just have to figure out what His will is.

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       Castlepalomaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Rats and mice are more simular to human than most animal. In ways of social behavirour, health and disease. Don't think rats care
       much for organized super
       stitious and scienist .
       rejected using lawyers for experiments

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          MonkeyShine75posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I thought it was pigs who are most like humans

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             SirDentposted 8 years agoin reply to this

             You may be right but I know at least a few people who are like pigs. 

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                MonkeyShine75posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                No, but I'm serious that's what I've heard.

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                   SirDentposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                   I know you were serious.  I read these forums all the time and feel that a touch of humor is helpful at times.

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