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What's this Bring Your Bible To School Day BS about?

  1. Paul Wingert profile image77
    Paul Wingertposted 2 weeks ago

    I heard this on the radio and shook my head. Bring your Bible to school and do what? Show everyone that you can't distinguish fact from fiction? Here's a novel idea, how about bring your textbook instead and leave the Jewish fairy tale book at home where it belongs. Okay, so Christians want to cause disruptions in public schools, nothing new, but I hope they won't get butt-hurt when a kid brings in a Quran or Satanic Bible.

    1. Credence2 profile image84
      Credence2posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Paul, this is outrageous, where is this happening? The authorities know that this is illegal in public schools.

      1. Live to Learn profile image82
        Live to Learnposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        Um, I don't think there is anything illegal about a Bible in a back pack. It would be illegal for the school to be promoting it.

        1. Credence2 profile image84
          Credence2posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          Absolutely correct, L to L.

          I was under the impression that this 'bring a bible to school' day was a form of proselytism initiated by school authorities. Of course, just bringing a bible for your backpack is no problem.

    2. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      This apparently not from any school, but a Christian organization wishing to spread their religion to the students.

      http://www.bringyourbible.org/

      It would be fascinating to watch a group of students, with Qurans, bibles, Pagan spell books, a Torah and any other religious tome compare, debate and discuss them all.

      1. Oztinato profile image83
        Oztinatoposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        This brings us to the same bizarre contortionist "philosophy" spouted by certain hubbers who will remain nameless.
        They defend the reverend Donald to the hilt but oppose Christianity in the same breath.
        Any comments wilderness?

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          Sure.  You seem incredibly tied up with trying to tie Trump to Christianity, specifically to the far right Christians. 

          Why?  It has nothing to do with anything, and certainly approving or disapproving of some of his actions has nothing to do with opposing OR approving Christianity in general.  Are you just trolling?

          1. Oztinato profile image83
            Oztinatoposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            I'm very interested in demolishing arguments based on hypocrisy. Heaven forbid that any particular person such as yourself be singled out. I have been demolishing many erroneous atheist and fundamentalist arguments across a wide variety of individuals.
            See, a person doesn't actually have a rational argument or even an intelligent opinion if they base their thinking on grossly unethical or illogical contradictions. Such theories need to be exposed for what they are.
            To educate such a flawed person one needs to lead them into an understanding of their error. Many atheists abandon traditional spiritual ethics and this leads to irrational and/or unethical premise.
            It's a bit like Dawkins failing to see that attacking all religion directly leads to cultural genocide in indigenous communities.
            His premise is gravely unethical to the point of contributing to cultural and ultimately physical  death.
            Likewise any person who claims to despise all religion shouldn't be able to get away with supporting right wing fundamentalists without being chastised and exposed (be it you or anyone else).
            In essence we are witnessing grossly flawed arguments due to the abandonment of spiritual ethics. This itself proves the value of spiritual ethics.

            1. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              You're right - many people don't have a rational argument.  Attempting to put Trump in the radical Christian group isn't rational.  Attempting to put anyone that agrees with anything he has done into the same group isn't rational.  Assuming that anyone agreeing with any action by the president but disagreeing with radical Christians is hypocritical isn't rational.  Assuming that disagreeing with specific Christian attempts at controlling people means that all religion is despised isn't rational.  And finally, assuming that your particular "spiritual ethics" is superior to every other ethical system is enormously flawed and irrational.

              There is no connection between agreeing with a Presidential action and being from the far right Christian group; it is only your irrationality that tries to make it so.

              1. Oztinato profile image83
                Oztinatoposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                Such gobbledygook isn't a logical argument.
                Everyone knows the Rev Donald supports the most facile fundamentalist view points. He's on record  (video) time and time again doing so.
                Hence the total irrationality of both supporting (and "detesting"! ) him and then opposing religions.
                Such cosmic backflips are not an argument but a "dog's breakfast" ie a messy smelly mixed up pile of gunk.

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                  "Everyone knows the Rev Donald supports the most facile fundamentalist view points."

                  Even if the assumption were true (it isn't) you're also assuming that Trump supports nothing but the most "facile fundamentalist view points".  Thus making your arguments illogical, foolish and irrelevant anywhere but your make believe world of hate.

                  Just curious, but where was Trump ordained?  Or is it like the rest of your arguments - founded on sand and without truth?

                  1. Oztinato profile image83
                    Oztinatoposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                    Err.....
                    Poor Don does nothing but support the most "facile fundamentalist view points".
                    Apparently he is self ordained in the Church of Hypocrisy.

      2. colorfulone profile image90
        colorfuloneposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        If a panel of such believers could come together for discussions, respectfully of course,  I would pay for front row seats to watch their body language and listen intently.

    3. Castlepaloma profile image28
      Castlepalomaposted 11 days agoin reply to this

      I wish they bring in all faiths into class and expose how ridiculous religion really is.

      Watched about different religion coming together like rabbahies preists, pastors and so on having an argument on womens rights in their faith. Felt like it was an insane asylum.

    4. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
      Kathryn L Hillposted 5 days agoin reply to this

      … to exercise their right to bring a Holy Bible to school if they so choose. Is there something wrong with bringing a Bible, and therefore God and Jesus, to school? They can't go wrong with God and Jesus on their side!!!!!

      As long as they don't start preaching their own interpretations to others. Jesus addressed only those who had the "ears to hear." (interpreted as the willingness to hear.)

      " I hope they won't get butt-hurt when a kid brings in a Quran or Satanic Bible."
      Why would they? Everyone should be able to get along just fine as long as no one tries to proselytize to anyone else. (Of course, they may need campus security officers to remind them from time to time.)

      The Way I See It

    5. Onusonus profile image86
      Onusonusposted 4 days agoin reply to this

      No bibles, but wearing vagina hats to school was perfectly acceptable last summer.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image93
        Randy Godwinposted 4 days agoin reply to this

        Did you wear one? tongue

  2. Aime F profile image84
    Aime Fposted 2 weeks ago

    You know I'd hope that by the time my daughter is at an age when other students could organize something like this and try to have a conversation with her about their religion that she'd be able to respectfully tell them she's not interested if she doesn't want to hear about it, or hear about it with an open yet logical mind and take it for what it is and nothing more: someone sharing their beliefs. The thought of another kid talking to her about Christianity or Islam or whatever their religion is doesn't really scare or bother me, I'm hoping to raise a kid who is strong enough and bright enough to be able to stick by what she believes while not being sheltered from what others do. Plus we get so many door-to-door soul savers here that they would have converted her well before then if she was that easily swayed. smile

    Ultimately it's not something that a school itself should ever promote but by the sounds of it, it's just an outside organization that wants to encourage students to bring their bible to school and have a chat during lunch or whatever. Meh.

  3. VAMPGYRL420 profile image83
    VAMPGYRL420posted 7 days ago

    I couldn't agree more, Paul! Freedom of religion means EVERY RELIGION!

    1. Castlepaloma profile image28
      Castlepalomaposted 7 days agoin reply to this

      I wish people would respect my Religion of nature more.

  4. colorfulone profile image90
    colorfuloneposted 7 days ago

    Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, " I have been made victorious with terror."
    -- Sahih al-Bukhari 2977, (on Jihaad), Book 56, Hadith 186

    1. Castlepaloma profile image28
      Castlepalomaposted 7 days agoin reply to this

      Any different than God fearing Yahweh. Monothic religion's are based on fear and obedience. It would be totally  insane if they really acted out of what many things are wriiten.

  5. colorfulone profile image90
    colorfuloneposted 7 days ago

    Trump did admit to being greedy. Then, he said the most remarkable thing, that now he was going to be greedy for American.  To that effect. 

    Admit past mistakes, make corrections, and move forward in the right direction.  That is a fine example of how I have lived my life for the past three decades or more.  First we must admit to ourselves, to God, (maybe another person) and if your a public figure...to the world.  That is poetic humility in practice.  It is in effect, spirituality.  Growth!

    Millions of people actually understand and practice these spiritual principles (and more)  in all their lives.  Normally, the carnal, secular mind set can not grasp or comprehend them.   

    Some call it repentance.  Public repentance is extremely admirable, and God almighty will honor it.  Scoffers will scoff.  Haters will hate.

    1. Oztinato profile image83
      Oztinatoposted 7 days agoin reply to this

      So you admit to admiring a very greedy person. To do such a Cosmic Backflip defys all ethics and basic commonsense.
      It's extreme rationalisation taken to farcical levels.

      1. colorfulone profile image90
        colorfuloneposted 7 days agoin reply to this

        Do you know of any other President of the United States who donates his paychecks to worthy causes?   I don't see that as greedy.   It is admirable.

        1. Oztinato profile image83
          Oztinatoposted 6 days agoin reply to this

          Any other presidents of the USA out there who do business while in the presidency and fail to release tax returns?
          To an avowed greedy person it's all about the balance sheet. Up the membership to his club and get to do business with the president??! It's institutionalised total corruption.
          His piddly paycheck is up against giant deals that now rake his business in millions of times that amount.
          Maybe when he is finally impeached he can use his paycheck propaganda to beg for leniency. That is of course unless he starts WWW3 to try to gain dictatorial "emergency" laws.
          What a total fiasco we are all witnessing in Dons Russian government.

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 6 days agoin reply to this

            Releasing tax returns is relatively new; few presidents have done so.  And most, if not all, presidents, keep right on "working" through the presidency (meaning their outside income did not stop).

            "His piddly paycheck is up against giant deals that now rake his business in millions of times that amount. "

            Salary is $400,000; "millions of times that amount" is a minimum of $800,000,000,000,000.  I'm sure you have the proof that one of his deals resulted in "raking in" 800T - can you show us?

            Nothing new here folks: move along and find some other reason to complain.

            1. Oztinato profile image83
              Oztinatoposted 6 days agoin reply to this

              Quote by wilderness "I detest trump".
              Here's the definition below. Hence to vigourously protect that which one
              detests is illogical and hypocritical. It smells of nutty expediency
              dɪˈtɛst/Submit
              verb
              dislike intensely.
              "she really did detest his mockery"
              synonyms:    abhor, hate, loathe, despise, abominate, execrate, regard with disgust, feel disgust for, feel repugnance towards, feel distaste for, shrink from, recoil from, shudder at, be unable to bear, be unable to abide, feel hostility to, feel aversion to, feel animosity to, find intolerable, dislike, disdain, have an aversion to; archaicdisrelish
              "I do detest social climbers
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              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 6 days agoin reply to this

                "Salary is $400,000; "millions of times that amount" is a minimum of $800,000,000,000,000.  I'm sure you have the proof that one of his deals resulted in "raking in" 800T - can you show us?"

                I didn't see any proof.  Just spouting off again, without concern for truth?  Smells like it to me!

                1. Oztinato profile image83
                  Oztinatoposted 5 days agoin reply to this

                  Wilderness you are defending that which you detest. It can't be taken seriously by any right minded thinker.
                  You want exact accounting amounts regarding the illegal earnings of a corrupt buffoon who won't release his tax return? Seriously? This is your defence of that which you detest? It's confused to the point of Alzheimer's logic.

                  1. wilderness profile image95
                    wildernessposted 5 days agoin reply to this

                    "Salary is $400,000; "millions of times that amount" is a minimum of $800,000,000,000,000.  I'm sure you have the proof that one of his deals resulted in "raking in" 800T - can you show us?"

                    I don't see any factual information to back up your claim yet.  I assume you haven't any, that the statement was an out and out lie in order to stir an emotional response?

                    You don't seem to understand. I don't defend Donald Trump: I defend the concept of truth, honesty and integrity.  None are present when you make statements even a child can prove false.  Nothing to do with Trump (I have yet to mention him); everything to do with people that don't understand the concept of not saying things that are not true.  Or perhaps you DO understand, you just don't care as it fits your agenda better to continually claim, untruthfully, that I'm supporting Trump if I ask you to prove your wild, outlandish, foolish and false claims.  Rather than admit to lying you will attack with more foolish and false claims.

  6. Castlepaloma profile image28
    Castlepalomaposted 7 days ago

    To continually brag about his(Trump's) wealth and greed is the greatest mental illness in the world today, I can imagine.

    The truely wealthiest and greediest owners of this country would be most embarrassed and insulted in which they hold top saret secret.

    Hitler and Mussilini would be rolling in their graves fuming and pussing where earth worms won't even touch them. Due to the speechesTrump gives about his holly than thou greed. The source of most evil in the world today.

  7. Randy Godwin profile image93
    Randy Godwinposted 5 days ago

    Perhaps either the sensei or the grasshopper can explain why Trump is charging the Secret Service agents tourist rates for their rooms at Mar Lago while he's there on the weekends? Are you guys fine with Trump profiting off of his weekend jaunts?

    1. GA Anderson profile image84
      GA Andersonposted 5 days agoin reply to this

      Hi Randy, It almost seems like you haven't been following the threads. Speaking only for myself, I have shied from any "Trump did this or that" comments or threads - and I think that has been obvious to most forum followers. I am certainly not a Trump defender, but I am also "certainly not" a band wagon cheerleader for anti-Trump rants that are unsupported by fact - or reality. There is a difference.



      Tourist rates? Mar Lago visits? Yep, those are the type of comments I pass on.

      ps. On the flip-side, your comments in another thread are prompting me to start a 2nd Amendment topic that I hope you will join. I think your thoughts on it are misguided, and I hope to discuss it with you. ;-)

      GA

  8. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
    Kathryn L Hillposted 4 days ago

    Trump is trumping! Let him trump and let us trump!

    Bring those Bibles wherever you want! Its not a crime, as some would have you believe…or desire it to be: Illegal!!!

    trump:
    outshine, outclass, upstage, put in the shade, eclipse, surpass, outdo, outperform; beat, better, top, cap; be a cut above, be head and shoulders above, leave standing.

    1. colorfulone profile image90
      colorfuloneposted 4 days agoin reply to this

      https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13739929.jpg

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
        Kathryn L Hillposted 4 days agoin reply to this

        Are we going overboard much? Yes?
        well, GOOD!

 
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