What's this Bring Your Bible To School Day BS about?
I heard this on the radio and shook my head. Bring your Bible to school and do what? Show everyone that you can't distinguish fact from fiction? Here's a novel idea, how about bring your textbook instead and leave the Jewish fairy tale book at home where it belongs. Okay, so Christians want to cause disruptions in public schools, nothing new, but I hope they won't get butt-hurt when a kid brings in a Quran or Satanic Bible.
Paul, this is outrageous, where is this happening? The authorities know that this is illegal in public schools.
Um, I don't think there is anything illegal about a Bible in a back pack. It would be illegal for the school to be promoting it.
This apparently not from any school, but a Christian organization wishing to spread their religion to the students.
http://www.bringyourbible.org/
It would be fascinating to watch a group of students, with Qurans, bibles, Pagan spell books, a Torah and any other religious tome compare, debate and discuss them all.This brings us to the same bizarre contortionist "philosophy" spouted by certain hubbers who will remain nameless.
They defend the reverend Donald to the hilt but oppose Christianity in the same breath.
Any comments wilderness?Sure. You seem incredibly tied up with trying to tie Trump to Christianity, specifically to the far right Christians.
Why? It has nothing to do with anything, and certainly approving or disapproving of some of his actions has nothing to do with opposing OR approving Christianity in general. Are you just trolling?I'm very interested in demolishing arguments based on hypocrisy. Heaven forbid that any particular person such as yourself be singled out. I have been demolishing many erroneous atheist and fundamentalist arguments across a wide variety of individuals.
See, a person doesn't actually have a rational argument or even an intelligent opinion if they base their thinking on grossly unethical or illogical contradictions. Such theories need to be exposed for what they are.
To educate such a flawed person one needs to lead them into an understanding of their error. Many atheists abandon traditional spiritual ethics and this leads to irrational and/or unethical premise.
It's a bit like Dawkins failing to see that attacking all religion directly leads to cultural genocide in indigenous communities.
His premise is gravely unethical to the point of contributing to cultural and ultimately physical death.
Likewise any person who claims to despise all religion shouldn't be able to get away with supporting right wing fundamentalists without being chastised and exposed (be it you or anyone else).
In essence we are witnessing grossly flawed arguments due to the abandonment of spiritual ethics. This itself proves the value of spiritual ethics.You're right - many people don't have a rational argument. Attempting to put Trump in the radical Christian group isn't rational. Attempting to put anyone that agrees with anything he has done into the same group isn't rational. Assuming that anyone agreeing with any action by the president but disagreeing with radical Christians is hypocritical isn't rational. Assuming that disagreeing with specific Christian attempts at controlling people means that all religion is despised isn't rational. And finally, assuming that your particular "spiritual ethics" is superior to every other ethical system is enormously flawed and irrational.
There is no connection between agreeing with a Presidential action and being from the far right Christian group; it is only your irrationality that tries to make it so.Such gobbledygook isn't a logical argument.
Everyone knows the Rev Donald supports the most facile fundamentalist view points. He's on record (video) time and time again doing so.
Hence the total irrationality of both supporting (and "detesting"! ) him and then opposing religions.
Such cosmic backflips are not an argument but a "dog's breakfast" ie a messy smelly mixed up pile of gunk."Everyone knows the Rev Donald supports the most facile fundamentalist view points."
Even if the assumption were true (it isn't) you're also assuming that Trump supports nothing but the most "facile fundamentalist view points". Thus making your arguments illogical, foolish and irrelevant anywhere but your make believe world of hate.
Just curious, but where was Trump ordained? Or is it like the rest of your arguments - founded on sand and without truth?Err.....
Poor Don does nothing but support the most "facile fundamentalist view points".
Apparently he is self ordained in the Church of Hypocrisy.Trump is no more religious than any other person who considers Christianity to be an ethnic group. He sees that group as a large block of voters to keep on his side. He is no more of a hypocrite than the next person.
Please, speak for yourself! I feel like I've just brushed off a cockroach.
I always enjoy hearing a holier than thou comment.
"He is no more a hypocrite than the next person" (??)
Don is making a horror clown ugly art form out of Hypocrisy and he is "no more hypocritical than the next person" ?
Sorry but that statement is as creepy as that Stephen king clown.
Don has so surpassed the most gutter level of Hypocrisy he should be in the Guinness book of records.
It's not being "holy" to get a crawling cockroach off.Its that "cockroach" thing again.
I don't get it, but than I don't have that problem.
Added: maybe it will evolve into the stink bug?I've never understood the stink bug. They don't appear to stink. I think they got a bum rap on name day.
Well, you don't want to kill them in-house because that's when they put off a noticeable offensive odor. Otherwise they are harmless. They are appropriately named though. Haven't seen any yet this year, but they are predicted to be harsh, trying to get into homes out of the cold. I don't want bugs indoors of any kind.
Added: I am very happy to see that legislation announced they will limit U.S. law enforcement access to data collected by the NSA on American citizens.If you believe that will stop any of the data collection on American citizens you'd best think again.
I know that we have been compromised by the technocrats.
Thanks to whistle-blower, Edward Snowden.
Duh!Any system with ultimate power will not change itself from the inside. It will just work harder to keep its actions secret.
That cat is out of the bag. But yeah, they aren't going to stop, they crave total power at any cost. The Rothchilds (etc) already have the wealth. They sure do hate Trump because he is willing to stand in their way, volunteered for the job.
The idea that Donald isn't one of "the rich people who manipulates the system" is totally absurd.
How would Trump manipulate the system?
He isn't a international banker, he is in real estate.
The Federal Reserve can't explain why $9 trillion is missing.Superman seem more realistic from another planet. Than a Billionaire Batman who cares all the time for the small guy.
Trump is no superman or Thor.Don't know if you are aware the GFC was caused by big real estate moguls like Donald. He is now currently trying to help the very wealthy with huge tax cuts while mouthing platitudes to ordinary folk, albeit ordinary deplorable redneckian folk.
That FC was greatly caused by subprime mortgage lending to people who had difficulty maintaining a repayment schedule because of unemployment, illness, a divorce, etc. According to Wikipedia.
"These loans are characterized by higher interest rates, poor quality collateral, and less favorable terms in order to compensate for higher credit risk. Many subprime loans were packaged into mortgage-backed securities (MBS) and ultimately defaulted, contributing to the financial crisis of 2007ā2008."
I believe it was a scam on home owners so the banks could take homes and they did, and they made a ton of money. "Follow the money."
The tax cuts will help the middle class and small businesses more then anyone. I have read it. And, I have read some of the fake news.I assume you must believe that bloated greedy real estate moguls were just innocent babes in all this.
I've never met a "bloated greedy real estate moguls" that made mortgage loans as well as developed/sold land. Have you?
I personally met greedy mobster like Trump before. They will draw you in like your part of their mafia family. Then soon as you disgree with them. They will screw you or sue you anyway they can.
You are on record here claiming you "detest" Don but you leap to his defence at every turn. This automatically categorizes all your arguments to the hypocrisy bin.
Now you're saying we need to meet a corrupt real estate person in order to prove such people exist. As if anyone hasn't met your average greedy cloying Dickensian real estate person. On top of this there has been numerous recorded historical incidences of bloated real estate billionaires causing the GFC.
Where were you during the GFC?? O yeah on your computer disparaging all religions until of course the Reverend Donald came along.
We are all watching and taking note of such cosmic backflipping.
"Leap to his defense" or to defense of truth, honesty and a willingness to tell the whole story without spin?
Suggest you go back and read. This time with an eye for what is said rather than how you interpret it through your own dislike."Now you're saying we need to meet a corrupt real estate person in order to prove such people exist."
Again, suggest you read with an eye to understanding, not to twist it to something you want to hear. Here is the quote: "I've never met a "bloated greedy real estate moguls" that made mortgage loans as well as developed/sold land."
Kind of left out a small bit, didn't you? A rather important bit as it wasn't real estate moguls that caused the recession - it was making too many risky mortgage loans. Or did you forget that small bit of history in favor of trashing Trump?Google Real Estate Bubble.
Who causes those the tooth fairy?Mortgage companies making loans that were far too risky. Who did YOU think caused it - the people selling a house at ever increasing prices?
A chain of extraordinary greed and hustle powered the whole thing.
Here's a good quote by one of these greedy moguls "My whole life Iāve been greedy, greedy, greedy," Trump said. "Iāve grabbed all the money I could get. Iām so greedy"
http://www.dailywire.com/news/3005/dona … on-bandlerOztinato, you are right, it was "A chain of extraordinary greed and hustle[that] powered the whole thing".
But, if you take a look at Clinton and Bush's promotion of the CRA, (Community Reinvestment Act), I think you will find that Wilderness' perspective is the correct one, and yours is only an anti-Trump diatribe that has no basis in fact.
It was the greed of Wall Street, as you say, but not in the direction of Trump's participation. He was not a Securities trader, and those were the folks responsible. In my opinion of course.
There is plenty to beat-up on Trump for, at least get some proper footing for your attacks.
GA
In other words your sly little insinuation is just another nasty lie, without basis in fact. I trust you see the irony here.
I haven't insuated anything: I've called it on the rooftops. Don is a self ordained hypocrite.
There's no irony involved at all.No. None whatsoever as you try to claim "reverendhood" for the President. Now explained as not only self ordained (not possible) and hypocrite rather than preacher. Oz, you're so full of it it's overflowing.
If a panel of such believers could come together for discussions, respectfully of course, I would pay for front row seats to watch their body language and listen intently.
I wish they bring in all faiths into class and expose how ridiculous religion really is.
Watched about different religion coming together like rabbahies preists, pastors and so on having an argument on womens rights in their faith. Felt like it was an insane asylum.ā¦ to exercise their right to bring a Holy Bible to school if they so choose. Is there something wrong with bringing a Bible, and therefore God and Jesus, to school? They can't go wrong with God and Jesus on their side!!!!!
As long as they don't start preaching their own interpretations to others. Jesus addressed only those who had the "ears to hear." (interpreted as the willingness to hear.)
" I hope they won't get butt-hurt when a kid brings in a Quran or Satanic Bible."
Why would they? Everyone should be able to get along just fine as long as no one tries to proselytize to anyone else. (Of course, they may need campus security officers to remind them from time to time.)
The Way I See ItNo bibles, but wearing vagina hats to school was perfectly acceptable last summer.
I'm not shocked or stunned by some of the responses, just sad. "Bring your Bible to school," is about Christians not being ashamed to be Christians. It has nothing to do with any other religion. Let them do what they must. The mere suggestion to bring Korans to school shows the ignorance of Islam. They have a process to go through before they read the Koran. I suggest you speak with a Muslim before saying such a thing. Christians have endured eight years of one of the most anti-Christian presidents in the history of the the United States. President Trump is permitting more religious freedom and respect for Israel than ever happened under Obama. So, some Christians want to bring their bible to school, I think they should be given a space to pray and hold bible study. Do the same for all religions. I would support it. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 … us-liberty
Got any facts to back up this claim, Mike? Or is it simply opinion?Randy,
If you read my entire post you'd notice a link I provided. I did not write it or influence the link in any way. Therefore...it is not my opinion.
You know I'd hope that by the time my daughter is at an age when other students could organize something like this and try to have a conversation with her about their religion that she'd be able to respectfully tell them she's not interested if she doesn't want to hear about it, or hear about it with an open yet logical mind and take it for what it is and nothing more: someone sharing their beliefs. The thought of another kid talking to her about Christianity or Islam or whatever their religion is doesn't really scare or bother me, I'm hoping to raise a kid who is strong enough and bright enough to be able to stick by what she believes while not being sheltered from what others do. Plus we get so many door-to-door soul savers here that they would have converted her well before then if she was that easily swayed.
Ultimately it's not something that a school itself should ever promote but by the sounds of it, it's just an outside organization that wants to encourage students to bring their bible to school and have a chat during lunch or whatever. Meh.I couldn't agree more, Paul! Freedom of religion means EVERY RELIGION!
I wish people would respect my Religion of nature more.
Allah's Messenger (ļ·ŗ) said, " I have been made victorious with terror."
-- Sahih al-Bukhari 2977, (on Jihaad), Book 56, Hadith 186Any different than God fearing Yahweh. Monothic religion's are based on fear and obedience. It would be totally insane if they really acted out of what many things are wriiten.
Trump did admit to being greedy. Then, he said the most remarkable thing, that now he was going to be greedy for American. To that effect.
Admit past mistakes, make corrections, and move forward in the right direction. That is a fine example of how I have lived my life for the past three decades or more. First we must admit to ourselves, to God, (maybe another person) and if your a public figure...to the world. That is poetic humility in practice. It is in effect, spirituality. Growth!
Millions of people actually understand and practice these spiritual principles (and more) in all their lives. Normally, the carnal, secular mind set can not grasp or comprehend them.
Some call it repentance. Public repentance is extremely admirable, and God almighty will honor it. Scoffers will scoff. Haters will hate.So you admit to admiring a very greedy person. To do such a Cosmic Backflip defys all ethics and basic commonsense.
It's extreme rationalisation taken to farcical levels.Do you know of any other President of the United States who donates his paychecks to worthy causes? I don't see that as greedy. It is admirable.
Any other presidents of the USA out there who do business while in the presidency and fail to release tax returns?
To an avowed greedy person it's all about the balance sheet. Up the membership to his club and get to do business with the president??! It's institutionalised total corruption.
His piddly paycheck is up against giant deals that now rake his business in millions of times that amount.
Maybe when he is finally impeached he can use his paycheck propaganda to beg for leniency. That is of course unless he starts WWW3 to try to gain dictatorial "emergency" laws.
What a total fiasco we are all witnessing in Dons Russian government.Releasing tax returns is relatively new; few presidents have done so. And most, if not all, presidents, keep right on "working" through the presidency (meaning their outside income did not stop).
"His piddly paycheck is up against giant deals that now rake his business in millions of times that amount. "
Salary is $400,000; "millions of times that amount" is a minimum of $800,000,000,000,000. I'm sure you have the proof that one of his deals resulted in "raking in" 800T - can you show us?
Nothing new here folks: move along and find some other reason to complain.Quote by wilderness "I detest trump".
Here's the definition below. Hence to vigourously protect that which one
detests is illogical and hypocritical. It smells of nutty expediency
dÉŖĖtÉst/Submit
verb
dislike intensely.
"she really did detest his mockery"
synonyms: abhor, hate, loathe, despise, abominate, execrate, regard with disgust, feel disgust for, feel repugnance towards, feel distaste for, shrink from, recoil from, shudder at, be unable to bear, be unable to abide, feel hostility to, feel aversion to, feel animosity to, find intolerable, dislike, disdain, have an aversion to; archaicdisrelish
"I do detest social climbers
"Salary is $400,000; "millions of times that amount" is a minimum of $800,000,000,000,000. I'm sure you have the proof that one of his deals resulted in "raking in" 800T - can you show us?"
I didn't see any proof. Just spouting off again, without concern for truth? Smells like it to me!Wilderness you are defending that which you detest. It can't be taken seriously by any right minded thinker.
You want exact accounting amounts regarding the illegal earnings of a corrupt buffoon who won't release his tax return? Seriously? This is your defence of that which you detest? It's confused to the point of Alzheimer's logic."Salary is $400,000; "millions of times that amount" is a minimum of $800,000,000,000,000. I'm sure you have the proof that one of his deals resulted in "raking in" 800T - can you show us?"
I don't see any factual information to back up your claim yet. I assume you haven't any, that the statement was an out and out lie in order to stir an emotional response?
You don't seem to understand. I don't defend Donald Trump: I defend the concept of truth, honesty and integrity. None are present when you make statements even a child can prove false. Nothing to do with Trump (I have yet to mention him); everything to do with people that don't understand the concept of not saying things that are not true. Or perhaps you DO understand, you just don't care as it fits your agenda better to continually claim, untruthfully, that I'm supporting Trump if I ask you to prove your wild, outlandish, foolish and false claims. Rather than admit to lying you will attack with more foolish and false claims.You don't honestly think you can gain traction with that argument do you? When was the last time the hard liners understood the concept of truth, honesty and integrity?
Been a long time since I saw it. But it's funny calling people on ridiculous claims they make, over and over if necessary until they either answer or give it up. Comical that they will try and ignore the question, as if it and their own silly claims were never mentioned.
uhhh.... well, he is the one more factually correct. I mean, if you are keeping score.
GA
Well damn, Wilderness! How's it feel to be the second to last Boy Scout in this world of internet forums?
" I defend the concept of truth, honesty and integrity.
But, I hope you will let this last Boy Scout, offer witness that once the chaff has blown away, your statements, and perspectives, are exactly what your quote says.
By not acquiescing to the diatribes you are labeled a Trump defender, but when the conversations are examined, what you actually present is a non-acceptance of spin and trend.
Well done grasshopper. Were I to choose the same path I would be echoing your sentiments, but, alas, my time is more limited, and in lieu of joining the choir - I can only offer this witness.
GAThank you sensei. I struggle to follow my master, and am viciously set upon by many from the dark side, but will persevere. May the force be with us both.
(I took 4-H, not the scouts. Although I was a den mother for a while)Ha! Den Mother! That's a good one. But, also a good one that deserves props. I was a Boy Scout, and a Boy Scout leader, so I appreciate your 'motherhood'. I am sure I would have bought cookies from your table.
GA
Please tell us all: do you "detest" Donald too?
Sometimes I wonder if we have all grown up and left high school mentalities behind us. Does detesting someone justify spreading falsehoods and lies?
See, what you said makes no sense.
Certain hubbers claim to detest Donald but they defend him. This is plainly illogical.
I'm asking you are you one of those hubbers?Seems that GA said it best: "By not acquiescing to the diatribes you are labeled a Trump defender, but when the conversations are examined, what you actually present is a non-acceptance of spin and trend. "
So keep spinning; I'll keep right on indicating a non-acceptance of the spin and falsehoods. And, I'm sure, you'll keep right on spinning and twisting that intolerance into something totally different and completely irrelevant.Ok so there's no investigation going in into Dons activities, right ? That's all fake news, right?
"Salary is $400,000; "millions of times that amount" is a minimum of $800,000,000,000,000. I'm sure you have the proof that one of his deals resulted in "raking in" 800T - can you show us?"
Not going to answer? Not even an apology for posting a claim so obviously false?I thought so......no response.
I have answered your question if you read previous posts. No one, not even the USA tax office, can put a figure on Dons corrupt dollars.
So tell us all is the current investigation into Dons corruption fake news or real news?
Maybe the investigation will come up with accurate figures.
Please leap to his defence yet again as you find him so detestable. Weird.I've read all the posts, and you have yet to answer. Nice to see that, finally, you have agreed that the post was pure BS; that you posted what anyone that can multiply two numbers knew was a lie.
Haven't heard of any investigations of Trump. Can you be more specific? Or will you now produce investigations of other people and claim it is really an investigation of Trump?
(See how that works? You answer; I answer. As long as you ignore questions, so will I. Now please produce an investigation of Donald Trump as an answer so that I can give an opinion on whether it is fake or not.)Blind ignorance can only be your motive.
Ever heard of the special council investigation? Mueller?
Don invited Russian hackers on live tv etc?
No? All a blank?
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-0 … in/8167552Well, now, everything I've seen indicates all the investigating is being done of people that are not Trump. Perhaps you can provide the evidence requested - some link or quote from an investigator that Donald Trump is being investigated?
I DID make that plain before: "Or will you now produce investigations of other people and claim it is really an investigation of Trump?" I am not on the investigation myself, any more than you are, but it certainly appears that the terrible, horrible, evil, awful collusion between Trump and Putin, or Trump and Russia, or Trump and Russian intelligence, or Trump and random Russian citizens has all died out. Only other people are being investigated ( and to date nothing illegal has been found).You are correct. One of Trump's attorneys was all over the news saying that they had not been notified with any documentation that Trump was under an investigation. The media however fabricates and sensationalizes narratives (talking points) for ratings and revenues, to delegitimize their intended target, and deceive their viewers, etc. (not necessarily in that order)
The media industries have a group of people that are totally dishonest. They keep harping on this story, then its that story, they don't follow facts...but glory in fiction. Pretty soon they have moved on to their next big fakery story. They have no credibility anymore, but many Americans are so dumbed down that they fall for anything, instead of being researchers of facts and truth. I can't tell the difference between the lying liberal media and Hellywood celebrities anymore, fakes. Are they communists?
I guess I needed to vent a little. I have to deal with it with my own brother who I love. I tell him the facts and his head explodes. Nice to have an online community we can do that on, even with all our differences. It really is a privilege!Wilderness
You are in a state of blind denial.
If the FBI, CIA and others involvement, plus a special investigation etc are all "fake news" to you (and similar hubbers) this merely shows an unfathomable depth of confused ignorance regarding reality.
Such total mental confusion is similar to a bizzare state of Alzheimer's- like absence of logic or a dissociation from reality.
It is incomprehensible behaviour.
Please tell us all if you still claim to "detest" Donald.I was listening to the radio yesterday. A bunch of liberals in Boston, discussing their plight. I loved one speaker, in particular. He said something to the effect that ever since Trump came down the elevator liberal rhetoric has followed one main theme. And, he followed that with the definition of insanity. The crowd roared in agreement (a liberal crowd, mind you). He said it has gotten to the point that they are pushing liberals away, even he was sick of the current liberal mentality, the crowd roared in agreement again (same crowd). He suggested that, instead of fighting, constantly-nitpicking excessively-whining at every turn about imagined what ifs; the better course for the country would be to disagree for half of the day and find points of agreement the other half.
For the first time in about a year and a half I found myself with hope that this bizarrely hypocritical stance we are experiencing may have a light at the end of its tunnel.LOL LOL That didn't take long, did it? I asked for something showing Trump is under investigation, you can't find anything so revert back to insinuating I like Donald Trump and defend him. Well done - you made it through 2 posts before collapsing!
But in case you wish to continue the game, here is the original request, the one you're ignoring this time: "Now please produce an investigation of Donald Trump as an answer so that I can give an opinion on whether it is fake or not." Will you admit there is nothing, that you once more made a claim without basis in fact, or will you pretend it never happened?I posted information and links that you seem to think don't exist.
Of course you did. Except that there wasn't a single thing about investigating Donald Trump. Perhaps you'll be so kind as to provide direct quotations from that link that says Donald Trump is under investigation?
"Now please produce an investigation of Donald Trump as an answer so that I can give an opinion on whether it is fake or not."
Not the GOP, not Putin, not anyone else. Just Donald Trump, as that's what your claim was. Try again? Or is time for insults and change the subject?Wilderness
Unless you read the links (and yes the news) you're not making sense. The information is there. I can't spoon feed a 70+ old man. It is humiliating to you. Read the posts, click the links etc.
The impression you leave is one of total confusion and contradiction. "Mental block" style arguments give one the impression of a medical condition and deserves our sympathy. However they can't be taken seriously either.
Do you also believe the FBI and CIA don't exist either? Their report summaries are linked in this recent discussion. It's public knowledge now not fake news.
Try try again. It's easy. Here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynit … n-the-irs/
If you detest Donald why do you detest him?Well, let's see. From your link:
Headline; "ntelligence report outlines the case against Russian President Vladimir Putin" Nothing about investigating Trump.
"US intelligence officials have released a report claiming Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a hidden campaign" Nothing about investigating Trump.
"The report said Russia's actions included hacking into the email accounts of the Democratic National Committee and individual Democrats including Mrs Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta." Nothing about investigating Trump.
"It said Russia had also used state-funded propaganda and paid "trolls" to make nasty comments on social media platforms:" Nothing about investigating Trump.
"The report said Mr Putin likely wanted to discredit Mrs Clinton because" Nothing about investigating Trump.
"The report said Republican affiliates had also been targeted but not to the same extent:" Nothing about investigating Trump.
From the latest link: "launching a federal investigation into possible collusion by the current administration in early 2017. Nothing about Donald Trump, just other people.
"It could, for example, examine the tax returns of those close to Trump, namely his former campaign CEO Paul Manafort," Nothing about investigating Trump, just other people. Worst of all, this article, by a "contributor", comes with a disclaimer that Forbes opinions are not those of "contributors". In other words, this was from the "letters to the editor section", not some well researched article giving factual information. Might as well have been a facebook post, or one of Trump's tweets.
etc. etc. etc. All about Putin and Russian activity, or about investigating someone else, but not a single word indicating an investigation of Trump. Want to try again? Here: the original question: "Now please produce an investigation of Donald Trump as an answer so that I can give an opinion on whether it is fake or not."
(At least your second link was more honest than you; while spinning and insinuating that Trump is being investigated, it never came right out and said so. Because it isn't happening? You claim it's true - back it up. And with more than a spun opinion piece. How about a comment from the FBI saying Trump is under investigation?)And of course here's a cut and paste of what the theme of the article is actually saying as opposed to your "points":
"Robert Mueller Employs Powerful Weapon In Trump-Russia Investigation: The IRS
.... President Donald Trump stands accused of having colluded with Moscow to make America not Great Again, but rather the largest province in the Russian empire."That's what I said; lots of allegations, lots of investigating and even more wild exaggerations with silly claims. But not a shred of evidence concerning Trump. Just other people, while the claims continue about Trump himself.
Few presidents have done so? Every presidential candidate from both parties going back to Richard Nixon has done so. The only partial exception was Ford, who released summaries.
But I guess the word "few" makes sense for anyone who prefers spin.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/sta … years-not/
To continually brag about his(Trump's) wealth and greed is the greatest mental illness in the world today, I can imagine.
The truely wealthiest and greediest owners of this country would be most embarrassed and insulted in which they hold top saret secret.
Hitler and Mussilini would be rolling in their graves fuming and pussing where earth worms won't even touch them. Due to the speechesTrump gives about his holly than thou greed. The source of most evil in the world today.Perhaps either the sensei or the grasshopper can explain why Trump is charging the Secret Service agents tourist rates for their rooms at Mar Lago while he's there on the weekends? Are you guys fine with Trump profiting off of his weekend jaunts?
Hi Randy, It almost seems like you haven't been following the threads. Speaking only for myself, I have shied from any "Trump did this or that" comments or threads - and I think that has been obvious to most forum followers. I am certainly not a Trump defender, but I am also "certainly not" a band wagon cheerleader for anti-Trump rants that are unsupported by fact - or reality. There is a difference.
Tourist rates? Mar Lago visits? Yep, those are the type of comments I pass on.
ps. On the flip-side, your comments in another thread are prompting me to start a 2nd Amendment topic that I hope you will join. I think your thoughts on it are misguided, and I hope to discuss it with you. ;-)
GA
Trump is trumping! Let him trump and let us trump!
Bring those Bibles wherever you want! Its not a crime, as some would have you believeā¦or desire it to be: Illegal!!!
trump:
outshine, outclass, upstage, put in the shade, eclipse, surpass, outdo, outperform; beat, better, top, cap; be a cut above, be head and shoulders above, leave standing.Are we going overboard much? Yes?
well, GOOD!
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Are Christians only purpose here on Earth to convert others to their religion?
by Debra Allen 10 years ago
Are Christians only purpose here on Earth to convert others to their religion?I was conversing on another's Questions and on of the responses was that the bible and christian's only purpose was to convert. I do not see where that says that in the Bible. Is this true?
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Christian Parents, would you allow your children to play with children of differ
by Peeples 9 years ago
Christian Parents, would you allow your children to play with children of different religions?If your neighbor were Muslim or Jewish, would you be okay if your children went over and played with their children? Would it make a difference if they were pagan or atheist?
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Is this generation living in the Last Days according to the bible?
by Michele Travis 11 years ago
Is this generation living in the Last Days according to the bible?There is so much chaos in the world today, wars, nuclear weapons. The United Nations and a One World Government. But at the same time, people have been saying we are living in the last days for a very long time. So, is it...