What kinds of religions would they have in alien worlds?

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Susana Sposted 15 years ago
Assuming there are other planets out there with civilsation at least as advanced as ours, what kinds of religions would they have there? Do you think they'd have had Jesus, Mohammed, Krishna and Buddha visit them also? Would they have the exact same Bible, Qur'an or Bhagavad Gita? Would they have religion at all?
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  usmanali81posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Freemasonry has got a greater chance to be their religion
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Here I find two masters fascinating.
  The first Paramhansa Yogananda says his master came back to him as an apparition after he died and told him that there are other dimensions and that he is currently in a dimension where the souls are more spiritually advanced than humans and he is teaching them about god and love.
  The same goes for Meher Baba. He communicates with his disciple here on earth and has told them the same thing that he in in a more evolved dimension teaching those souls.
  
  Then you also have the Egyptians who believed the evolved souls would go and reside in the constellation of the seven sisters.
  The tunnels in the pyramids point towards these stars and were like guides to the souls so they go in the right direction.
  
  It will be the religion of love.
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  rizraziposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Assumptions and Realities are two different things
  Yet if you want me to assume than i would say that If there's any world, Then ALLAH / GOD would have their own systems.. Like of the earth's
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tksenseiposted 15 years ago
Maybe the first question is would they even be life forms we would recognize?
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fierycjposted 15 years ago
I'm sure they would worship something. If I had to make an alien movie where its based in another galaxy or something...I would make them worship this luminous giant creature, a fallen angel that fell on their planet during the Titanomachy and stayed. He would be a god in their midst.
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tksenseiposted 15 years ago
Gotta figure IF there is life on other planets the likelihood that it is intelligent is on the small side.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Could they be any worse than us? What makes you think it would be small? Interested in your thoughts here.
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andromidaposted 15 years ago
This is indeed a very strong assumption.Maybe they have their own version of prophets or religions,they even have no religion at all.
So anything is possible.I guess they have their version of Susana
who loves to write in hub & ask questions.
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Eaglekiwiposted 15 years ago
More Intelligent than ours maybe.
Like not murdering in the name of 'god'
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  andromidaposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  without religious hatred and racism.
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Susana Sposted 15 years ago
Yeh, I like the idea that they may have gone beyond (or never had) the silliness that most earth religions seem to be caught up in at the moment. It would be great to think they may actually know the truth of reality in terms of spirituality and be supremely spiritual beings. Maybe we'll get there one day too.

I also like the idea of a luminous giant creature that everyone worships! I've got an image of Kang and Kodos from the Simpsons in mind

I asked this question to try and rouse a bit of objectivity around the whole religion question. My view is that it is highly unlikely other intelligent civilisations would have the same religions as us, and if that's true...what does it say about the validity of our religions? Truth should be truth throughout the universe surely?
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This question encourages us to be open minded and take the standpoint of a human to fathom something that is not earthly, or not human. It would only be speculation unless you could expand your consciousness beyond what is the ordinary mind. Our standpoint will only ever be the human standpoint, and when measured my physical instruments this is limiting our research somewhat
  
  If you can take the written text, dogmatic approach away, and refer to religion as one who has a spiritual essence and is able to expand consciousness beyond the norm, I could entertain the idea. If you want the writings of Corinthians to apply to beings on Canis Major or Jupiter - I'm really stretching myself here.
  
  "Truth should be truth throughout the universe, surely?" Major major statement that one. But what does it mean? Do you mean we are all God, or a divine essence or love is all there is?
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
I would hope they were well past religion.
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andromidaposted 15 years ago
If all the assumptions are true then lets be alien;I mean
ideologically.
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Lady Guinevereposted 15 years ago
According to a friend of mine ther can be no other worlds to have a religion on because as he states it goes against the Laws Of Nature and Einstein's Theory Of Relativity. I posited the question about that in the Science forum if anyone cares to try to answer my questions.
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  Susana Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I would disagree with this as would the vast majority of scientists. The Laws of Nature are the physical properties of the universe - biology, chemistry and physics. There's nothing in there whatesoever to say that there can't be any other civilisations in the universe, in fact quite the contrary. And if there are other civilisations there's every reason to think they may have religion.
  
  Einstein's theory of relativity is about how fast objects/particles can travel in the universe, how that changes time and how things look relative to each other. This may have implications for space and time travel but not for whether religion is possible.
  Here's a great series of programs that explain all current scientific thinking in easy to understand terms:
  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html
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wordscribe41posted 15 years ago
I'm sure they'd have pastafarians: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
If at least advanced as us, I would think they would have gone way past religious belief, and be dealing in reality.
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tksenseiposted 15 years ago
Strange how people who have a conception of faith and religion at about the level of a small child still try to put on airs of great intelligence and sophistication.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Unless you have a 'child-like' faith ( not to be confusd with 'childish ie immature' you will not enter the Kingdom Of Heaven.
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
Tksensei, as usual all you can contribute is ninth rate crap like this. Grow up!
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I might say the same. Your post amounts to just more "religion is silly" nonsense that has been posted a million times already. If you are going to keep beating the same drum I think it's fair to comment on it.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Just wondering Tksensei if you've done any self transformation work, like spending 40 days and nights in a desert reflecting on your psychological reactions, perhaps demons in your closet. Your openness to the ideals of others, your openness to the shortcomings of others, as determined by your state of mind. Spirituality takes all forms, as I'm sure you are aware. At the end of the day, for some at least, spiritual truth will only come from inside the self, and not via religious teachings.
  
  I'm wondering if you know the higher meaning of Self (as in Atman)? It's just a question to you. No new-age nonsense and I'm not intending to upset you, in case that is not clear.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Forgive me if, despite your disclaimer, that DOES sound like new-age nonsense. Forgive me as well for avoiding your question but my faith and reflections and whathaveyou are personal. Suffice to say I've been around.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Been around what tk?
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The world, churches, temples, mosques, shrines, forests, deserts, the ocean, rivers, lakes, car crashes, blizzards, tiny apartments, 4 star restaurants, night markets, police stations, bottles, books, family, friends, fights, lovers, competitions, hospitals, fears, joys, ambiguity, etc. You know, 'around.'
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  But have you ever been inside your own temple? Have you ever used your inner eye and gone inside yourself?
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, fer cryin' out loud...put down the beads and the bong for a while...
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I don't do beads and bongs. Sorry if this makes you angry. The difference between what you are saying as "I've been around" and the journey of self - is exactly Self means going inside. It is in fact how the Christian Jesus became divine. And to do that requires self reflection. Just clearing any misconceptions about your understandings. Self (Atman is a very high state of consciousness). It's not new-age. Have a look at the Upanishads of Hindu philosophy if you like. Don't take my word for it.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It doesn't make me angry, it makes me dismiss you as a self-indulgent navel gazer who is too eager to drop new-agey bromides to be taken seriously.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  sorry you feel that way. I can't help you with your standpoint at all. To take me seriously you will have to start doing some serious spiritual work. Self-indulgent. It's far from the truth. Again - Atman is not a new-age concept. Not sure why you think this? What do you align to, if I may be personal? Or are you like me and don't align to anything particular?
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Don't feel bad about it, I'm not looking for help from the likes of you.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The likes of me? But you don't know me? I'm a really great person, really. I do allot for people. I've worked hard most of my life. Haven't broken too many rules, stayed out of jail. I'm not demonic. Very open minded. Patient mostly. Tolerant often.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh brother...
  
  You've said more about yourself than you realize...
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  Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  aww TK , the lady opens up and you is being a scaredy cat..lol
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Scaredy of what? Sugary overload?
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  Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Quit being such a Peter Pan lol
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Say whaAAaaaaAAAaaa?
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  gawd,you cant make up a thing like that. Lol.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well, it's good to get acquainted don't you think? Would you like to get back to the thread - you know - religions in alien worlds?
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Not always.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You're probably right. Nevermind. I know what hate is like. I've done it to death. I'll not encroach on your bitterness any longer. I hope your child helps with your happiness and then it may come through in your communication. Take care, and I seriously mean that.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Your concern for my "happiness" is...is...just so touching...! (sobs gently...)
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Of course the question really has nothing to do with alien worlds since we can't know that life exists on other worlds, that it exists and is intelligent, that it is intelligent and has religion, if it has religion what they might be based on, etc.
  
  The question is really asking about what the posters here think about religion and what is important to them, or just general sci-fi musings.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I agree totally. My timezone means I can't stay. Enjoy yourself.
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  Susana Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I asked the question to challenge those who think there is only one way to God to try to look at things from a much broader perspective. Our planet feels pretty big to us, but it's only a spec in the universe. The probability is that there are millions of inhabited planets out there. If it's true that there's only one way to God (which I don't believe) then all those civilsations would have to have the same religion which seems rather farfetched to me.
  
  I notice that the fundamentalist Christians have avoided the topic.....I shouldn't be surprised....thinking beyond the Earth box is unlikely to be one of their qualities
  
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7870562.stm
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I was enjoying the thread.
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  Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Nonsense, the lord has created worlds without measure, it would be so preGallilean to think of ourselves as the center of the universe!
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Is so interesting how you see what I do as new age beads and bong stuff, and I find what I do to be more real than listening to and reading scriptures. And more real than blindly praying to an icon.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Serious people spend lifetimes listening and reading trying to learn and understand a little more of universal truths. New agey 'spiritual tourists' skim the table of contents, convince themselves they 'got it' then move on to the next temporary indulgence of their tiny attention spans.
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  \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  YOU ARE FUNNY
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you, I try.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I suppose some move on, I don't really know many to be honest.
  
  I've not moved on from what I started. I see you understand the concept of reincarnation - you refer to lifetimes? I'm getting clues but not the whole picture. Lots of judgment though - you are at least good at that tk.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  ..................................
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I can respect your personal journey. It may sound like new-age nonsense, but it isn't.
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fierycjposted 15 years ago
If there're aliens then they've got to be fallen angels. A fallen race of angels bereaved of their celestial bodies; forming colonies in outer worlds. Clearly the Bible states that they (angels) have the ability to reproduce. Gen 6.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So you put ALL aliens in this category? Fallen angels? "Those bereaved of their celestial bodies" - could that not refer to fallen humans who have not honored their own existence? In terms of your bible beliefs - could this relate to 'those poor souls who are in purgatory?' Perhaps unevolved spiritually? Or are they more like Luciferic beings?
  
  Just wondering about your thought-forms.
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  When a celestial being loses its nature it is demoted to a more humanoid form. It still retains its superhuman strength and abilities. Nonetheless without a natural pure form. It can morph and take shapes as well and easily as any spirit can. Bigfoot, Yeti, Abominable Snowman, Nephilims,etc all fall into the category of descendants of humanoid creatures i.e. Ex-angelic beings.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Bigfoot? Abominable Snowman? I was aware of the Nephilim within the context of what you were saying.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You realize this is exactly the kind of thing the faith-o-phobes thrive on, right? Your beliefs are your own, but this is why many atheists reject the concept of God - because they can't get past the coloring book notion of an actual, physical big guy with a white beard sitting on a cloud throne in the sky hurling lightening bolts, or Jesus as a Marvel Comics superhero.
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Peoples opinions or beliefs will always differ. Its inevitable. However, I myself find it utterly as absurd as that there isn't a God sitting up there in a throne, hurling lightening bolts at his subjects.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Ok, so an actual, physical man sitting in the actual physical sky actually physically hurling actual lightening bolts?
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  metaphorically speaking, of course.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Um, that's why I used the word "actual" so many times...
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The shortcoming of the human standpoint.
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Bard of Elyposted 15 years ago
Alex Collier says that the Andromedans call what we know as God as the "Isness."
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Pete Maidaposted 15 years ago
I would think that any sentient race would be curious about themselves and their surroundings. As with humans, aliens would probably attribute an unseen entity to anything they couldn't understand. It is the need to have a reason for everything even if the reason is not concrete. Humanity would substitute the divine reason for a concrete reason when they had more information. The Gods made lightning and thunder until we learned how it was really created.
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Eaglekiwiposted 15 years ago
I Think there are many different branches of people (aliens) who worship Christ on other planets.
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fierycjposted 15 years ago
It is indeed a well established fact that New Age borrows a lot from Hindu doctrines.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Be that as it may, I don't do New Age. I do like some of the Hindu tradition though. I also like bits of the Buddhist tradition. Even like a few bits and pieces from the Christian tradition. Like some of the Chinese teachings. A bit from the Celtic line as well. I suppose that makes me a mongrel in the spiritual world - glory be I'm a bit of everything. Praise Me.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It makes you exactly the definition of a self-indulgent, superficial new-age boob.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You do need petting. Superficial - wow! I have never been called superficial. Always a first. Shows you know nothing about me. But nor would you be expected to.
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Glad I could be there for ya.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You're welcome.
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\Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago
Fierycj, just make the film, and they will come....
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Is Fiery making a film? Good for you. Hope it goes well.
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  Sufidreamerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  How is that coming? We are going to keep nagging you!
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hey, easy, fellas...see, the rumour you're starting, Bren. The plan is still in the works, though. Its got to be done right. And hey, Sufi, you'll be one of the first to know when the deal is sealed.
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  Sufidreamerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Great stuff - still have the film-making Hub to write, but you may have to wait a few weeks - it is on the ever lengthening 'To Do' list!
  
  Eaglekiwi - my other half may have one of those lying around, somewhere!
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That's fine, Sufi. I'll be looking forward to it.
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Eaglekiwiposted 15 years ago
Can I play a lead role , Ive always wanted to wear a Grecian robe like that girl in Lord Of The Rings..
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I've got this movie script lying around somewhere, where a goddess years a similar robe like that. But I've always pictured Marcia Cross playing that role. There's something cold about that redhead. But I dont know. Are you any good, Eagle?
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Eaglekiwiposted 15 years ago
Better than good and look I even came dressed for the part other dress black n gold is at the cleaners
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  Sufidreamerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Fiery - you have your leading lady!
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well, what can I say..I don't know why Universal hasn't signed me up yet. I get an actress shining up for a part without an audition. I'm hot! Lol.
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  Sufidreamerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
  You could get your entire cast and crew on Hubpages - offer 'Working Holidays' in Africa!
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  And that would be like a bonus, right. Imagine shooting a fantasy flick in the heart of Africa. How exotic is that!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  lol, packing as we speak, dinner beside the Serengeti in my Friday night 'get up' my the force is strong in that girl
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Sufidreamerposted 15 years ago
@Fiery: I'm in!

My partner could be persuaded - she has always wanted to visit Africa. She used to work as a cook, so could help with the catering - the most important part of any film-shoot!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  ok Im adding to my Resume Surfi..last job was as a Barista and ktichen hand.. never to proud to get my hands dirty
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  Sufidreamerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You don't need to worry about that - you are one of the Thespian cast who gets waited on, hand and foot, whilst the crew do the real work!
  
  @fiery - Why not, although you need to start planning well in advance. Writing the script and stuff is great, but you need to start thinking about the practical things, like food and accommodation.
  
  You could always find a friend to do it for you - the joys of delegation
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Wow. Jokes apart. I'm starting to really consider this.
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Eaglekiwiposted 15 years ago
Go for it ( seriously)
Nothing Ventured , Nothing Gained right
I wish you all the best!
Spielberg,Peter Jackson move over
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  fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No, Liv Tyler, move over. Lol.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Id forgotten her already ..hehe
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cindyvineposted 15 years ago
I think Aliens would worship the greenest alien with the biggest ears who flies the fastest spaceship with the most up to date technology
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cindyvineposted 15 years ago
Actually, they have recently found another solar system with planets that would be in the habitable zone, so it isn't inconceivable that there might be life there. I doubt our planet is the only planet with intelligent life, and for the aliens, we might not actually be that intelligent.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Our track record would indicate we are pretty stupid
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Seems pretty likely, but so far we can't say for sure.
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cindyvineposted 15 years ago
I have to concur, Jewels!
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cindyvineposted 15 years ago
Here's a hanky to wipe your snotty nose, Sensei
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  tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I just need a minute to compose myself...
  
  (hope you don't want that hanky back)
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cindyvineposted 15 years ago
Nah keep the hanky, what with swine flu and all that fullashitalitis going on as well. Did a whole unit of work with my grade 4's about what makes a planet habitable, so feel quite knowledgeable on the subject. On a Grade 4 level of course!
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Alien invasionposted 15 years ago
I'm a Jedi, non practicing. I prefer to go fishing on the sabbath.
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fierycjposted 15 years ago
Its funny how a thread about aliens is halted by an 'Alien Invasion'.
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Enelle Lambposted 15 years ago
Seems to me the answer to the question would be alien...or is that too obvious?
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Jewelsposted 15 years ago
Does make me wonder, given it's very likely other civilizations exist beyond this planet, whether there is dissention in belief systems. I'd be more interested in their state of consciousness, their intelligence. Is there an ability to be more unified or is duality and separation their dilemma also.
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tksenseiposted 15 years ago
we can't know that life exists on other worlds, that it exists and is intelligent, that it is intelligent and has religion, if it has religion what they might be based on, etc.
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Onusonusposted 15 years ago
I would imagine the begining of other worlds to be some sort of Adam and Eve scenario which raises the question; do they all end up eating the fruit?
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tksenseiposted 15 years ago
See? This topic is really just about humanity.
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