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  1. Osa Osazuwa-Tosan profile image60
    Osa Osazuwa-Tosanposted 14 years ago

    It is the general belief that no sinner is God’s friend. And different people have different concepts of what sin is, and hence, who a sinner is. Therefore most people assume that they are in right standing with God, based on their own personal or religious conception of sin and righteousness.

    It would have been well and good if God were divided and varied in His personality and principle. Since, if that were the case, He would take everyone on according to their different and varied perceptions of sin and righteousness. But God is one indivisible and unchanging God who maintains and deals with His creation (especially men/women) on the basis of His one righteous standard only. And we all receive His approval or otherwise only on the basis of this one righteous standard.

    It is essential that you know this one righteous standard of God so that you will not wrongly be thinking you are His friend. You must know whether you a sinner or a righteous person. For if you don’t know how you stand with your Creator and sustainer, you will ever fall short of your real potentials for joyful living, and eventually lose your eternal destiny.

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    1. Daniel Carter profile image62
      Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Religion always seems to put God and mankind at odds. The only way past this is the atonement.

      But consider this:
      God created each of us. We are an extension of him. He is omnipotent, omniscient, and therefore knows everything about everyone, all the time.

      If this is the case, then we were never separated from him, and it's only OUR illusion to be so separated. It's our responsibility to become aware that God is with us. That we never really did separate from him, only that we believed the illusion that it was possible to do so. In reality, when we "awaken" and become one with him in this moment, we actually begin returning to him. The illusion begins to crumble, we need less and less from this life until finally we are ready to let go of everything here to return to our natural state with Him.

      What if it was really this way, instead of a lot of men's ideas that we are really, really bad, sinful people who lost their way for all eternity?

  2. nikitasnow2 profile image59
    nikitasnow2posted 14 years ago

    none is rightious, no not one, thats why we need repentance and forgiveness. As for Gods friend, David commited so many sins but he was Gods friend,

    1. Make  Money profile image66
      Make Moneyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly we are all sinners.  That is why Jesus gave us the Sacrament of Reconciliation (James 5:16 and John 20:22-23).  Once saved, always saved is a fabrication.  It is a way of life with temptations and reconciliation.

      Yeah there were righteous before Jesus.  Jesus' sacrifice on the cross and resurrection opened the gates of heaven.  Matthew writes this after Jesus died on the cross, Matthew 27:52-53 "And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints that had slept arose, And coming out of the tombs after his resurrection, came into the holy city, and appeared to many."

    2. anjalichugh profile image67
      anjalichughposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Quite right. This reminds of an old saying (probably taken from Bible)..."There is a difference between 'people WHO love God and people WHOM God loves."  Complicated, yet simple. We need to ask ourselves which category do we fall in. smile

  3. Osa Osazuwa-Tosan profile image60
    Osa Osazuwa-Tosanposted 14 years ago

    That's interesting! None is righteous indeed. But that's why God sent His only begotten Son to save the unrighteous from sin to righteousness. If not, God's purpose would be a futile one, which is unthinkable.

    True, we cannot assume that we are righteous. But we are made righteous by our faith in God's work of grace in us through His holy Son Jesus Christ, whom we have to accept as His free Gift of salvation. And the outcome of that salvation is to make us righteous as we continue to trust and obey God through Christ, by the Holy Spirit who now indwells us.

    Hence: "He has made Him to be sin who knew no sin, that we might become the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus" (2Corinthians 5:21). "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" (Romans 6:23). "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). "For as many as are led by the Spirit, they are the sons of God" (Romans 8:14)

    Please understand that no unrighteous person can be the child of the Most Righteous God. Before Christ's advent, there was none righteous, but after the grace of God to man was effected through His death on the cross for our sins, we are made righteous through this grace, if we whole-heartedly accept Him as our Lord and Savior, and continue to trust and obey Him through the instrumentality of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

    Surely, our righteousness is not ours, but God's righteousness freely given to us through Jesus Christ.

    God bless!

  4. ratnaveera profile image59
    ratnaveeraposted 14 years ago

    We can easily stand with God until we have Humanity and Honesty.

  5. Paraglider profile image89
    Paragliderposted 14 years ago

    Osa - your belief system requires everyone to be a sinner. But I don't share it. I am not a sinner, because I do not accept the concept of sin. I do plenty of wrong things, but sin requires an offended god. I see no such entity.

    1. Irene McManman profile image57
      Irene McManmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm with you on that one. I don't accept the concept of sin either. If it was possible to offend God--it wouldn't be God..

      1. earnestshub profile image82
        earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I agree.As far as being off topic, when you make a statement that all are sinners, you are going to hear from Paraglider, me and many others!

  6. Make  Money profile image66
    Make Moneyposted 14 years ago

    That's okay Paraglider but this thread titled "How do you stand with God?" was clearly directed to people that believe in God.  Seeing you don't or are not sure then your post is basically off topic.  We can agree to disagree cant we?

  7. Jodi Hoeksel profile image61
    Jodi Hoekselposted 14 years ago

    I believe we and everything is god! There is no separation. Instead of looking out we need to look within! smile

    1. Make  Money profile image66
      Make Moneyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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  8. profile image0
    sandra rinckposted 14 years ago

    on two feet. big_smile

  9. Inspirepub profile image71
    Inspirepubposted 14 years ago

    It's quite easy to stand with God.

    He's everywhere, so you just stand anywhere, and you are with God.

    Same with sitting. I generally prefer to sit with God. Or lie with God. Standing gets tiring.


  10. Misha profile image63
    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    Agreed Jenny smile

  11. Osa Osazuwa-Tosan profile image60
    Osa Osazuwa-Tosanposted 14 years ago

    Yeah, Let God be true, and all men liars. For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

    It'sn't our respective opinions and views or arguments that's crucial to our right standing with God. What's essential is our desire to know HIm who is the TRUTH, the only paradigm of AUTHENTICITY of life and living. It is this only that will enable you be in communion with HIm, and maintain His intended and desired fellowship with Him, in order to keep the authentic God-man relationship going in the world.

    This is why you should know your standing presently with HIm, so that you can really be man indeed. For without God in your soul, you are a non-entity.

    Keep on striving!

    1. earnestshub profile image82
      earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Without god, I am happy, well adjusted and in charge of my life. I do not need some invisible entity of your imaginings to live a good life.

  12. HealthCare Basics profile image61
    HealthCare Basicsposted 14 years ago

    My thought on "god" is more about the strength of nature in our world. Nature has a course on all inhabitants of this world which we should pay more attention in understanding how we humans affect nature. "God" can be an interpretation of many things or beliefs which we all should respect.

  13. Pearldiver profile image69
    Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

    I Really Do Not Appreciate anyone suggesting that as a Man I am a Liar or a 'Sinner!' I think such an intimation is arrogant, ignorant and clearly out of order; considering that it HAS NOT yet been proven that the God that is being promoted here is a Male or Female!! big_smile

  14. HealthCare Basics profile image61
    HealthCare Basicsposted 14 years ago

    Very true indeed........


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