To ask someone if they are a prophet is an investigative question to see the answers and who said that they are; rather than searching for one.
When we ask someone if they are a liar... we can expect only one answer.
Either they are not and say so or and if they are and they do. The answer will always be NO
If I were to say that I am a prophet, I would receive ridicule and no one would listen anyway. If I say that I am not, I will then be told to shut up then.
Not a good question unless we are going someplace else with this.
Good question if we do some soul searching about ourselves in responce to the question.
A prophet can be the biggest nobody and obvious sinner. A prophet is anyone that the Lord ( not wannabes) actually gives a mesage to, expecting them to deliver to an individual or group.
Everybody lies. The honest ones will always say yes. (That seems like an oxymoron... the more honest people I should say... The ones that don't lie as often, and rarely about major issues.)
Not to be disrespectful, Why would God favor a sinner to be a prophet when God says not to sin in the bible?
My point was that anyone can be a prophet. A person that teaches what is written in scripture is a teacher. The Lord will choose anyone that he wishes to assign the task of delivering his message. He builds the most beautiful "stuff" with damaged and broken people. or else we would take pride in ourselves.
A prophet can be anyone from any walk of life.
Prophet is government invention to take your mind off the bibles purpose.
Why should people believe a prophet? A lot of people want to be prophets as shown in the thread, why does he only pick one?
Anyone that wants to be a Prophet can NOT be one. God can choose anyone he wants to to deliver a message, cut the grass, wash the dishes, etc. The same as you showing favoritism for whoever cuts your grass, washes your dishes etc.
As a believer in Christ I would say that there hasn't been a prophet from GOD since Jesus.
If I were Islamic I would say that Muhammad was the last prophet.
Many teachers that teach what they percieve to be the truth of scripture. Everyone has their own individual belief as to what scripture says is that truth.
This is the problem don't you see... Too many individual beliefs of truth.
Too many groups that following one individuals belief.
I do not believe that any truth will be found untill we forget everything that we have been taught (everything).
Then read scripture interpretating nothing.
Scripture says that we are all sinners. We are all filthy rags in comparison to real righteousness.
Jesus said that One sin is no greater than another. Therefore, no sinner is less worthy than another to be a Prophet.
Disclaimer: In no way is this meant to sway, pardon, or invite you to Christianity. I do find many of the rules, explanations and teaching to derive from a logically sound notion that provides for a better community and it is the actions of fundamentalists that cause more harm than good. I will always believe in the spirit of a law and never in the letter of a law. Because there are no absolutes Marine! Haha.
Though it is far more fun to agree with you and watch people get frustrated, I think I may be able to provide a logical explanation that does not derive from faith. Nor will I bore you with the tedious logic 101 arguments.
Think of the most righteous, pure, innocent person you know, like your child. Though his existence gives you much joy, meaning, and purpose, he does not intellectually provide you answers. The knowledge you gain from him is from examining his experiences and it is your intellect that comes to the conclusions.
Now, lets take a person who was a little (or a tremendously) wild individual when he/she was younger. This person does not possess innocence any longer, but what he/she is able to do is relate to anyone. Through said actions he/she is able to possess an understanding to which those people who were more responsible cannot. This relation to both sides (good and evil) provide a broader sense of life, thus giving them a more well rounded view of existence.
Some religious people will not accept this, and it is often ridiculed due to it possibly encouraging people to act irresponsibly. We supposedly sin enough are our own, therefor it is ridiculous to encourage more sinful behavior. Yet, this is the synopsis of St. Augustine's argument as to why the followers of Christ in the early Church should listen to him.
Now if I could be so bold as to "justify the ways of God to Man" (Milton). A person that possesses the ability to speak to all of humanity, rather than just those that already believe, make for a far more effective advocate than some one who has no experience beyond that of a solely Christian one. If you need further proof as to why this is, look at the many irrational personal attacks that are meant to sway you, or at least attempt to admonish your reputation. Not as effective at winning you over to the cause as say St. Augustine who would take the time discuss shared experiences in order to provide ways to expose you to God's existence.
In any case, I thought the tone of your question above solicited a genuine response. That, and unlike your discussion on absolutes, this thread was definitely a theological one. So it should be said that faith based and Scripture based answers are relevant. Then again, I am sure it was on purpose so as to inflame the religionists. And I have no issue with that, so fire away!
Thank You for your thoughts. Always appreciated. You are right, no absolutes! At least in free thinking. If there are absolutes in free thinking, it's not free, right? I am still open to the possibility of a creator due to the fact that our minds are so separated from other animals. The bible simply doesn't answer any of my questions without interpretation or faith.
It is great to see an emotional reaction. This is where the true person comes out. A person can't hide when the emotions are tapped. It also gets their true ideas on most occasions without all the buttering up.
The only reason I disagee with prophets is because it shows favoritism. I don't believe favoritism is divine creation, but man creation. I don't understand why a creator would create everyone different and expect them to follow the same prophets belief. This to me defrauds the bible along with other contradicions. I do understand your analogies about 1 person coming from both sides of the tracks that can relate to everyone and find common ground. This still doesn't make me believe prophets or prophecy. I wouldn't believe a prophet unless they did a divine act in my presence. A divine creator should know this if a divine creator created individual minds rather than the same mind. Our dna is different, why would our belief be the same? Why are religionist and bible believers the only ones that have to study their belief? Thank You for your thoughts.
Very well put. I am not a prophet. I am a seeker if any label or title applies. I grew up in a Christian home. I say Christian because I went to a non-denominational church, then to mass on Sundays because my mother wanted me to understand the Bible apart from dogma. I also attended Catholic school for 14 years (preschool through high school). I identify Catholic, but realize that I do not follow Catholic doctrine completely. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Religion is an attempt to explain the world around us. Atheism and science are the same attempts and require faith in human ingenuity instead of faith in something beyond humanity. So I view them with the same skepticism. I understand that the most enlightened individual (who most likely possess far more knowledge than myself) still cannot show plausible evidence for either God's existence or not. Yet, what drives my faith is what the English Theologian and acting chair of Theology at Cambridge Denys Turner said, "What atheists and believers alike have ignored is the fundamental question that it is not how we got here, but why?'" that matters. Whatever side you reside is matter of faith. Science to date cannot physically prove religion false and the same holds true for the other side.
I believe that there are, was and will be prophets. Yet, they are not what people imagine. They are not people who are necessarily prophetic, but people who possess such a complete understanding of humanity that they state what the problem is and the what will result if they do not alter the unjustified means of self-advancement. They become prophetic, not from some inner sight, but from people's arrogant assumptions that resist change.
Thank You for adding more thoughts Sir. Ty for the background, my family is also deep in belief. I do disagree that religion is an attempt to explain the world around us. I think this is it's illusion while it's main objective is to group belief for control. I do agree that both atheism and religion are both assumptions. One assumes they know and one assumes they don't know. Both assumptions. The truth would be to say me/we know nothing in absolutes. Anything short I believe would be limiting our minds.
I agree with the theologian you quoted, very humble statement. The "why" is my main question. Why our minds have the ability to individualize and the need/want of a belief and purpose. Everything we do has purpose, yet the purpose of life is still undefined on a large scale.
What if the prophet chosen didn't accept being a prophet because they didn't believe in favoritism? Also, maybe the prophet wouldn't accept because they understand that to ask people to follow their belief, it would a contradiction to their individualism.
In all seriousness, your humble thoughts in non absolute belief are always truly appreciated. Thank You.
Where is the prophecy? lol Nice to see u again.
Yes, I profhetise this is going to became a trolling thread, full of nonsense sayings...
See, I'm already fulfilling the prophecy!
By the definition you gave.......
Ok, I see. You are a true absolute prophet.
Why do you have to ask prophet? You should already know. Did God forget to tell you?
I actually made myself laugh on that one.
My rhetorical question has been answered.
Why do you ask questions when you should already know the answer prophet?
Why do you ask questions so you can mock and scoff like a fool in high school ?
We should all check to see what size shoe we wear.
No, and none can be because prophethood is perfected at the last and final Messenger Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). All the prophecies in all the major religions of the world related to the absolute final Prophet completed on the birth of Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Seen some Christian fanatics lately wondering where this Muslim fanatic was, now we can have good war , a holy war as to whose prophet is greater. madness.
lol I didn't know prophethood was a word, yet I was using it.
Prophets aren't real.
Yes. At least I think I meet one of the definitions.
Wow, praise God! Which dimension have you experienced?
Only if you made a lot of cash (profit)... hehehe... Actually, Im an angel x
There are no prophets today but there is the Spirit of prophecy that speaks through the Holy Ghost. In 1 Corinthians chapters 14 & 15 prophecy is for edafacation, exsortation, and comfort.The prophets of old had the power to destroy. As you study Revelations, the New Jerusalem (spiritual Jerusalem) has a foundation of Jesus Christ with the apostles and prophets on that, with the twelve tribes of Israel as the walls. We, the Gentiles, have a court set aside for us in the temple. If there were prophets today they could lead the people a stray. The prophets of old was to proclaim the coming od Jesus.
ckeck this out people http://hubpages.com/t/dd45e Might answer some questions.
I think anybody can be a "prophet" in their own way if they come in touch with their own potential of individuality, love, wisdom, and spirituality. You asked if I am a prophet and my answer is NO. The reason for that is I have not met all of these goals that I have the potential to reach for myself.
i am the prophet of truth i have a book im writing called reveltions 8
No,actually I'm a lose....Oh crap I thought you wrote profit...guess I should attend an alzheimer meeting.They keep scheduling them but everyone forgets to go...
OK you asked...
Am I a prophet?
I sometimes sense things that are not logical by normal scientific standards.
I once had a vision where there were three then then were two and someone died.
Does that make me a prophet or just a person developing paranormal senses?
Are you a prophet???? Question to OP.
But what makes you not a prophet?
lol an easy out? You never answered the question speaking of easy outs.
Glad I have you laughing....you're question was vague.
Are you a prophet...
"A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed."
A person who speaks or foretells the future.
If i abide by those standards then no I am not a prophet but I am a unique brain in the cosmos.
I have the free will to express myself.
I do not have to be a conformist to what you claim to be logic.
I am a contrarian.
Care to change me...
Matrix biatch out of nowhere....who would have me serfing a master that I yet do not know...
I believe that true prophets are extremely rare. I believe that God and the Holy Spirit can reveal things to us, but that does not make us a prophet.
Why would a divine being favor to talk to one over the other?
I'm not sure, there are many gifts that God bestows upon different people. It take the right person for the job. some prophets, some leaders, some speak tounges and so on.
What would it take for you to believe someone was a prophet?
That is actually incredibly tough. Most prophets are not recognized as such until the events that they predict become true. They have to be 100% accurate in order to be one.
I believe that Elen White is a prophetess of her time, but she has writings that a critisized while not in the "spirit of prophecy" however, her understanding of Revelations continues to be spot on.
Explain "her understanding of Revelations" please.
Where do you want me to start? Its a long book.
What was unique about her interpretations from others?
I see. Well, she and her fellow members were scripturally literate beyond 99% of todays pastors and priests. Many churches, even today warn not to read revelations. Revelations however is encouraged to understand and even states that at the beginning of the book. there is a simple code given for days to years and so on, but the meat and potatos is no easy task. Elen and her friends in christ related the book of Daniel to Revelations to make it transparent. Many books in the bible compliment another and that book was the key to revelations. However, much of the true prophecy was reavealed to her by God and/or the Holy Spirit.
Scripturally literate meaning she remembered the most?
If you want to understand a subject, what do YOU do?
I could not agree any more with what you said about understanding Daniel and Revelation being imparative.
I think that that understanding opens a little bitty door
into a diffrent world concerning scripture.
Indeed. and any study at all would reveal this to those who have not done so.
We really should examine the acts of the Prophets from the Bible before we declare someone or ourselves to be a prophet in order to determine if what we see currently is consistent with biblical history. Whenever a prophet appeared in a time or to a king in the bible it was usually not to be compelementary or revelatory. The duty of a prophet was to direct and correct. Something was usually terribly wrong that needed to be corrected or a leader needed to be redirected when a prophet was sent to "speak" to someone.
There is only one way that a Prophet can be proved!
That would be in the message.
If the Lord sent a Prophet to ME I would assume that I am not going to readily like or agree with it, cause He isn't coming to tell me something that I already know.
The prophet is not going to be waste his time saying what everyone else is already saying. That would be being a good teacher.
A true prophet would be kinda like the person that signed for the delivery package from UPS sent from GOD
Could be the least likely person we know ?
Maybe some people are easier to talk to than others. lol
That's probably something to do with ears. Not everyone listens very well. But then again, a burning bush would freak me out. Plain old talk would be more effective?
The first time the term prophet was used in the bible was when God was referring to Abraham when appearing to a king in a dream who tried to take Abraham's wife in the book of Genesis. So if God Himself referred to Abraham as a prophet clearly he was a prophet, amoungst other things. By studying the life of Abraham you will get a good idea as to why God would choose to speak to someone over another. Scripture tells us that God would that we were all prophets. The Hebrew term used to describe this phenomenon is the term NEVUAH, which means prophetic. There are 6 dimensions of Nevuah. 1) Dreams, 2)Visions, 3) Helps, 4)Spokesperson, 5) Worker of Miracles, 6)Prophetic Sensitivity.
Helps: This is simply being a helper of God performing a specific task that God was looking for someone to perform while on this earth. It could be something as simple as starting a foundation for the homeless. If God put such a task on someone's heart and they obeyed, without having the necessary resources to carry out such a task, they are operating in a basic dimension of NEVUAH. This person may also have the gift of Discernment of Spirits & Knowledge of the Times & Seasons. I won't go into these now, maybe later.
Spokesperson: Most people are familiar with this dimension of NEVUAH. This is when someone speaks for God to deliver rebuke, corerection, or encouragement. God could also give this person wisdom to help someone out of some form of trouble or impending doom. A specific word that no one else had come up with previously or were capable of coming up with in the present. Divine wisdom. God could also give this person information about a person or situation or place without this person ever being in the place described or knowing the person spoken of or even witnessing the situation spoken of. God may also use this person to speak in a foreign language that they never spoke before and also to interpret these languages. God could use this person to interpret a dream, a vision, or a text of scripture. And of course God cold use this person to foretell of a future event.
Miracle Worker: This is when God temporarily grants a person power to overide the laws of physics. Like He did with Moses, Elijah, & Jesus. This inludes raising people from the dead and healing the sick.
Prophetic Sensitivity: This is when your senses are supernaturally sensitive. Take your ears for example; you might hear something that no one else heard and when you moved to respond to it you just avoided a car accident. Or you might HEAR God's voice audibly and no one else heard it but you. This also includes your emotions. You might have a bad feeling about someone babysitting your daughter and for some reason you decide to not use that person. And then upon watching the news the following morning you see that same person that you had a bad feeling about wanted for rape, child molestation, & murder. You may also have a physical sensation. You might feel this annoying burning sensation on your chest and feet and you end up going to the gym to get your mind off of that annoying feeling, instead of going to bed like you normally would at that particular time. And upon arriving back home you notice your home is on fire because the gas pipe blew.
That's just a brief overview of the basic dimensions of NEVUAH, or the Prophetic. I will write a hub on this later describing in more detail these basic properties.
Why is it that if someone sees something, it HAS to come down from god?
Why can't it be a part of a person's evolution?
Humankind still doesn't understand it's own existence. Yet, many want answers and seeks "religion" a business for answers.
It's absurd to think that any extra sensory perception and/or vision was handed down from a non-real higher authority. It's more believeable for a person to develop and harness a power, than to believe it came from somewhere else.
Again, let's keep life REAL please. Anything without substance is exactly that....nothing!
Sure I am a prophet. Just search the forums for my two-year old predictions of the state of American economy.
I am going to ask you to get a little deeper into where you are trying to go with this. I understand baiting very well, but I like to fish.
Well then....let's fish! I'm just trying to see who the true prophets are. I like prophecy.
Who do you consider to be a "true prophet". I feel you don't believe scripture.
I don't. This doesn't mean that a prophet can't convince me through debate.
I just feel you want to see depth from one side. I have posted my belief- now lets hear what you think prophecy is?
lol I thought I was asking the questions.
I have no idea. Thats why I posted the thread. If someone is a prophet, they should have divine word through hubpages, correct?
I am just a young fool in need of prophecy.
let me share something with you. Over 300 prophecies were fulfilled with the birth and life of Jesus Christ. Old and New, man couldn't make up the probable person to fulfill these phrophecies. For one, they didn't understand what it meant until he arived and for two, they only knew he was coming. Thats it. So, for Jesus to completely fill prophecy of a book writen long before his arrival is amazing.
Now, I knew that you were baiting me- but I won't hold it against you. I challenge you to research for yourself and see if it holds any notability.
prophecy you want? prophecy you get. Research the book called; "The Spirit of Prophecy" by Ellen White. I can mail you one if you like.
Research the book of Daniel and then the book of Revelations. None of it will make sense to you, but you will understand the form in which it is written.
and finally read the book "The Desire of All Ages" by Ellen White. truly amazing. really.
I will check her out. Will you still be offended if I disagree that she's not a prophet when i'm done looking at her?
If you read the books and scripture that I have suggested and still do not believe, I will leave it alone.
If you do not read the scripture and the books that I have suggested, I will win a dollar bet to myself.
"Bible Symbols Decoded (An Historicist View of Daniel and Revelation)" by Deroy L. Hanson is another good tool to aid in gaining knowledge of prophecy and scripture.
I Know that If a A Junior high school student who has never Heard about the bible. When he read Daniel and Revelation
and wrote a bookreport about what he read,
This would be the beginning of understanding scripture
You are correct. It would be the BEGINNING of understanding. Understanding is preceeded by knowledge and wisdom. In this context knowledge is knowing what the bible says, wisdom is doing what the bible says, and understanding is knowing WHY the bible says to do what it says.
I could be trained as a mechanic and given all the knowledge I need to fix a car, but I would not REALLY understand WHY I was trained to do or not to do certain things until I begin to do the work of a mechanic.
Understanding comes at that aha moment where we realize, oh, that's why they said to do it this way. But I will never reach that moment of understanding if I only received the knowledge but never put it to work or applied it consistently.
simply asking loads of questions to make "Christians" ramble is not advisable. It is insulting.
How do you see it insulting someone asking about your belief? Is your belief closed to debate?
Don't both parties need to have an understanding of a subject in order to "debate"?
Well, you could answer the questions I asked earlier in the forum to others since they didn't have any answers for me.
Did I not name a prophet and why I beleive that person is as such?
Wouldn't it make more sense for a divine being that has the power to deliver the message to one deliver it to all when the divine being would know people wouldn't believe the prophet?
I used to wonder that myself. God tired of making devine presence while the people continued to turn their back on Him.
Everything that you said is correct.
The point I was aiming at is that if that school students report; is believed to be correct;
That would cause you to look at scripture from a different point of view. This point of view also points to ..A.. Truth.
Begin with this truth ! And then read the entire New testament
And you will see THAT....You will see it differently.
Why is there so many complications? Does God think we are all geniuses? Is that so only prophets can interpret?
That is the thing. We should read Daniel and Revelation with the mentality of a very young person having NO prior knowkedge. Read it as a Child Not thinking that it has to be interpretated. A NON geniuses is required
You will find that many prophets do not understand what it is that they are writing down. The author of Revelations "John the Revelator" had no idea what God wanted him to write down on the island of Patmos. but those writings were for today.
Complications are prophesized for todays time. This is deeper but I am going to give you a little insight into revelations;
you will find 4 horses in the book.
1. White- this horse represents the time in which Jesus was here. White symbolized purity through Jesus, but also the purity of the church, becuase there were not many denominations to confuse people. Only pure teachings.
2. Red Horse- After the White Horse is gone, the devil has power. Three tools he will use to kill the message of Jesus. Red Horse was his tool of death. He killed believers using the Romans, Greeks and many others. If he killed the believers, the message would die.
3. Black Horse- The black horse is the "Dark Ages" If the devil can oppress people and their ability to obtain the message, he will smite out the message. Many places, it was illegal to posses a bible.
4. Pale Horse- The pale horse is a "watered down" breed of horse. It mixes and confuses. If the devil can confuse the people by numerous denominations and false teachings, he can wipe out the message. This is today.
this is a brief look into prophecy.
Sorry, the horses are silly to me. Why use horses to describe something when a divine being tells you what to write or say? I think a divine being would have common sense enough to say the future word for word without using horse analogies.
I'm showing you the way in which prophecy is written.
Maybe it is written this way to encourage interpretations to get around the corners. Interpretations can be debated. Word for word can't.
If someone said: "Something bad will happen on 9/11" a lot can be interpreted.
Now if someone said: Osama terrorist will highjack airplanes on 9/11 and crash them into the twin towers, the pentagon, I think I could believe it.
Not any longer, no.
I still have questions, and I continue my study.
But that question in particular, no.
My 15 year old's (..non genius) ..book report said the four angels depicted in Rev. 7 as being the four horsemen But before they delivered their packages upon the earth. When another angel tells them to wait ....
yes, wait to reveal it until the end. scary right?
pale horse is our time and it is the last horse.
It is like a geometry problem
Ya got the right answer concerning there being LITTLE time left to the fulfillment of prophesy but .."ALL".. the symbols are entirely different than in his book report.
After the four horses are seen descending to earth. These four riders are then seen holding back the four winds of the wrath of God. Until the 144000 are sealed.
After the seventh seal is opened the multitude are seen in heaven so we must assume that the 144000 first fruits would have been redeemed from among man.
AND THEN there was silence for a half an hour and THEN the seven trumpets are handed out. This is definitely a division of time between the seven seal judgments being fulfilled and the seven trumpet judgments being imposed.
That should gives us a lot of things to re-consider
I get your point.
Do you know what the only unforgivable sin is?
It has been missunderstood and everyone has their own idea of what it is, but the bible says exactly what it is. God could reveal Himself and we still wouldn't beleive in Him.
These are what people think are the unforgivable sins could be?
Murder, adultery, homosexuality, child abuse, blasheme, taking the Lords name in vain, and so on....
So, when you say that people couldn't miss-interpret a precise statement, you would be surprised.
If someone approached me and told me they were God, I would not believe them. If that person parted an ocean or a lake in front of my eyes, I would believe whatever they said. If someone told me they saw someone part an ocean or a lake, I would not believe them. I think a divine being would know this already.
So do you take the biblical homophobic statements as the word of god?
I can prophecy, but you need to first buy me a bottle of Scotch. Give a prophet his due ya know? Just don't throw stones at me, I'll run! It'll be all barefoot through the brambles!
A prophet isn't necessarily one who only predicts the future.
Just so you know.
They also interpret right?
In that case, everyone is a prophet.
A prophet from God ia anybody that God chooses. whether a wino. drugaddic murder or what ever; a prophet is a messenger from God that usually says something that no one has herd of before and nobody likes.
God wouldn't waste a messenger to say stuff like everybody else is sayin
False or true prophet. If what the prophet says does not come to pass then that prophet is a false one.
A true prophet will use only the interpretation of God and not themselves to interpret prophecy.
lol A lot of people believe God speak to them.
This is the problem.
In this case, most to all religious are prophets.
A true prophet ain't goina interpret nothin.... He goina deliver Gods message exactly as given to him to deliver.
He don eve havta be able to read to hear God and repeat what he said. That is a true prophet.
If God were to send a prophet to the earth today; And his name was Elias or John, You wouldn't reognize his as the truth if he bit ya. Unless he had a message that agrees with yours.
T0 45% of the Beleivere , I wasn't talking abour YOU....
You know who I'm talking about....
I'm just saying that a Prophet aint anybody special; it is just someone that God has given a message to, to be deliver.
If you are teaching the things that you learned out of the bible you are a teacher. If you heard God or Gabriel say to ya to say "....." ya might be a Prophet
If I was, my words would reveal it, to who ever wants to see.
If not it won't,
I am really amazed at all the prophets in the hubpages forums.
It's like a prophet orgy on here.
I think we can be through our dreams. It's up to you how you interpret your dreams and how to act on it
I think that if we can not be at oe with self then we can not be one with anything.
No place in the scripture are we told to be "at one" with ourself.
It's all about how you interpret it prophet.
You should already know these things. I think God is playing you.
no place in scripture does it say that we should eat our peas and carrots. Do you think that is a good idea ??? Do you ear peas and carrots???
Can't be yourself if you follow what others tell you to.
I have to say, this is the most entertainment I have had on a single thread before.
Thank You prophets!
Good night youl hope ya get a definition figured out before everyone becomes one.
It's ok, I saw on another thread that Jerami thinks Jesus told John he would live until HE returned. .....he even thought Jesus said it to Peter too.
He's a little corn~fused over in the Appalachians.
It's spiff though, he also believes that this world has already seen it's 1,000 years of peace.
He seems to be a half~a~bubble~off !!!
Seems to also think Paul-Peter-James-John contradict Jesus in places and that is why he is always chirping off about "I read the words in red"
John 21:21&22 JESUS SAID TO PETER; " IF I WILL THAT HE TARRY TILL I COME WHAT Is That TO THEE".
Sounds to me like he said " If I want him to be alive when I return WHAT BUSSINESS IS IT THAT OF YOURS?
You left out the rest of it where it says that a rumor started about John living forever but John corrected the rumor...now stop lying Jerami !!!
Jhn 21:20 Peter turned around and saw the disciple Jesus loved following them-the one who had leaned over to Jesus during supper and asked, "Lord, who among us will betray you?"
Jhn 21:21 Peter asked Jesus, "What about him, Lord?"
Jhn 21:22 Jesus replied, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You follow me."
Jhn 21:23 So the rumor spread among the community of believers that that disciple wouldn't die. But that isn't what Jesus said at all. He only said, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?"
Did everyone figure out prophecy while I was gone?
more comments after I left then I care to read.
A lady I used to work with believed that vampires are real. Good and evil, and it was all she could talk about.
me "uhh huh.... wow.... yep... Ohhhhhh kayyyy gotta go get my prostate checked now."
People will believe anything as long as it doesn't have to do with God.
I have never said that the world has seen a thousand years of peace. That 1000 years of peace is not found in scripture. that is one of many INTERPRETATIONS that simply not correct.
I did say that the 1000 years that Satan is to be bound in the pit have been fulfilled.He has been loosed. This would mean that the 1000 years that the dead people that John sees in heaven as described in Rev 20 have had their 1000 years that they rein with Christ in heaven; has also been fulfilled
only if it comes true, or you work hourly for a fortuen cookie co.
Ask mohitmisra or whatever his name is.
He is the prophet of enlightenment.
I imagine he should have decent sales seeing as how he constantly avertises his nonsense books.
Hey now, Mohit is a prophet. Maybe your idea of a prophet is SuperMan. I think Mo is great and I think he is also just like anyone else and needs to earn a living.
So even though you might think his work is nonsense, he is doing well for himself and he makes an honest living and that is something I think we should be congratulating him on. Unless of course you are just jealous. lol
lol I don't know if you are being serious or joking?
An honest living? How honest is religion and prophecy?
He writes poetry. Have you read any of his work? I will say you probably haven't.
His poetry doesn't have anything to do with prophecy or religion. He might say things like, "enlightened" or "light" or "the way" but he doesn't say, burn in hell if you don't follow me or listen to the bible or koran etc.
I think, just guessing, I think that for some reason his excitement about his own personal triumph and faith annoys you because he is proud of himself.
You are off on this one.
He annoy's me because he believes his way is the right way for everyone.
He believes he has literally died and came back.
He is too ignorant to recognize the purpose of the bible and religion.
These are the reasons he annoy's me.
So I am wrong about what annoys you about him but you are wrong about what you think he believes.
Mohit has never said his way is the right way or the only way.
He doesn't have to. It's what he believes.
Do you believe that anyones way but your own is right for you? I am going to guess no.
Everyone can say oh Jesus' way or God's way or whatever but everyone will ultimately go with what yourself believes. It's not so hard to figure out.
My work is ranked next to the Bible, Quran and Bhagwat Gita, do you really believe I don't understand these spiritual books and prophets ?
Notice he didn't argue my statements, he only quoted how high his book is ranked compared with the bible.
A true prophet.
I challenge you to write a better book , you do think this is all a big joke don't you? Yo are the height or foolishness and arrogance.
lol Another hypocritical comment.
You call me arrogant when you constantly say how high your book is ranked with the bible. I didn't know god granted prophet powers to hypocrites.
It is a joke because you do not understand the purpose of the bible and religion.
I do not believe you do. I believe because you think your writings are equal or higher than that of Jesus makes you in extreme danger of hells fire.
I had to backtrack a little.
You seriously believe he is a prophet? What is your idea of a prophet?
An honest living? He tries to "guide" people to his belief. You think it is honest to sell people bs?
I am saying that he honestly feels the way he does and he writes spiritual poetry to reflect the way the he feels.
I do think it is an honest living. He has to sell the book somehow and while he does plug his book in a lot... a lot, it doesn't make him dishonest.
Let's get real. Everyone on the religion forum tries to "guide" others to their beliefs whether obvious or not so Mo is a lot more outspoken. Who cares?
My idea of a prophet? Wouldn't you like to know.
It takes a master to appreciate a master Sandra, one needs to be evolved.Thank you for your love
Yes sales are picking up but for years I went hungry for days, would sleep in friends shops since I couldn't afford to rent a room , lived a very difficult life.Today strangers want to send me money and seek my blessings.
Thats because you are giving them something to believe.
A follower mind will believe anything.
Everyone doesnt believe that person ranked so highly is foolish like you like to believe.
It doesn't take me to prove you foolish, you do all of the work.
I don't think I am the only one that believes you foolish. Your meditation obviously hasn't given you self-awareness. You are still trapped in belief.
Try writing your knowledge in a book and lets see how much people appreciate it.
ooops you don't have any spiritual knowledge, you wont be able to write anything
Anyone who mocks me after seeing my rankings is truly very ,very , very stupid.
Chop his head of and grow tall doesnt work . Show us your proof of knowledge
Again, you do all of the work for me. No self-awareness.
The knowledge is in the statement.
Interpret it prophet.
Chop his head of and grow tall doesnt work . Show us your proof of knowledge
I have no knowledge compared to your prophet mind.
I know nothing as you know all.
Satisfied in the ignorance of your assumptions?
Finally accepting the truth."I have no knowledge compared to your prophet mind."
I am not here to harm you or anyone but to share the knowledge I have gained which will help everyone including you.
So you can easily write a better book than the Bilbe, Quran and Bhagwat Gita?
You save nothing. You are only contradicting individualism of yourself and others with your grouped belief.
According to you but not according to the intelligent.
The intelligent have individual minds. You have a follower mind. Maybe one day you will find individualism. As of now, you have no clue.
A follower mind does not get ranked over Bibles, Qurans and Bhagwat Gitas, try to think before writing.
Oops that will be too difficult for you
A follower mind is repetitive when they don't have any individual ideas as proved in your last comment.
No "individual" response, just more book promotion proving your follower ignorance.
I don't follow anyone but at the same time I have immense respect for the MASTERS and PROPHETS and not FOOLS like you.
lol, You are a religious jackpot.
You are the only fool. You are how old and haven't found your individual mind?
You come to a religious forum and give attitude to a spiritual poet, you have to be the height of stupidity.
If I haven't found my mind a person who doesnt know god like you has? wow wow wow how dumb does it get.
From your profile page
Sometimes, I feel like I have seen too much, yet I have seen nothing. I feel like I have learned too much, yet I know nothing. I view the impossible as possible, the limited as infinate.
You have a lot to learn Big Moose
Coming from your robotic belief!
A "spiritual poet"
I know nothing. You assume all. Go interpret that. When you understand it, maybe you will learn something. But, you are more consumed with teaching your robotics.
You clearly didn't understand it from your limited follower minds reponse.
No, it's the only word your limited mind could come up with.
Calm down you angry prophet. I'm not trying to beat out your book.
I'm not out to prove my prophethood unlike yourself.
I have nothing to prove except that you are trapped in belief. You did most to all of the work yourself. All I had to do was ask you questions.
Kindly let yourself off of this high horse. I pray.
Top Spiritual and Religious
http://find.franklin.com/nav/ca/Spiritu … r/ebooks/0
Ranked over many editions of the Bible. This is simple truth .
The Bible was written by many authors and not just one author.
I've read your rankings in your book review. 1/3 of the people give you the lowest ranking possible and want a refund. 1/3 give you 50% ranking and say that your poetry is somewhat childish, and the other 1/3 give you full ratings, but they all appear to be by the same writer and of Indian descent.
I don't know how to post links, but I will show you some comments made about the book "Ponder Awhile" by Mohit.
1. "I looked inside the book before purchasing it and liked the poem that was shown. Well low and behold, when I received the book, I realized that it was indeed the only nice poem afterall. I am most disappointed with this book!"
2. "If I could rate this poetry book lower than 1 star, I would. Unfortunately, I cannot. The poetry shows a complete lack of development and talent. At times the poems are actually ridiculous and appear as if they have been written by a small child. The only question they made me ponder was "Why the heck was this book ever written?"
It was encouraging for me because it appeared that alot of people from India want some scripture. If this is the best that they can find, wait until they see the truth!!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Ponder-Awhile-ebo … ewpoints=0
I wouldn't be surprised if he wrote the good ratings himself.
How about all the positive,good reviews? skip them out conveniantly?
Write a better book if you have the intelligence an courage.
There is no intelligence in your follower assumptions, only ignorance, but you are happy.
"Your" ignorance is bliss.
Ypu are one serious asshole.Did you get discharged from the army because you were so stupid?
WHY DONT YOU WRITE AND GET RANKED OVER ME THATS WHEN PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE YOU OVER ME.
The ANGRY PROPHET is on a CAPS rampage.
That could be your next book.
Ratings = Belief to you huh.
Why dont you write a better books this is so pathetic.
I could never compete with your prophecies. Your prophet powers are elite to me.
You are the chosen one.
I know I am and its a job for me ,something I will do irrespective of the fact that you understand it or not.
You are your own destruction.
Go try to find that in your books. You won't find it. It's an individual quote.
You have no individuality because you are a followers mind.
You follow something Marine, you just don't realize it yet.
I dont belong to the army where I take orders.Keep talking as thast all you can do, proof you can never give by writing a better book.
Ranked how, ranked by sales? surely you have not outsold the KJV of the Bible?
I am interested. Ranked by reviews? I could write a better book, but it wouldn't be soooo popular because I would not give every religion a "belly rub". Popularity of anything, is appealing to the largest group of people. that is what you have accomplished. Not purity.
SO WRITE A BETTER BOOK, STOP TALKING ABOUT IT AND START DOING IT.TALKING IS EASY DOING IS NOT.
Well, should I praise every doctorine of every faith as a politician would. Or should I write about truth?
Read my work first before jumping to conclusions.
"I keep telling you who I am but you dont believe me" Jesus
Who else gets ranked over Bibles, Qurans and Bhagwat Gita? you?
I think that was a yes. He believes he is the savior.
Another prophet bites the dust.
My God never touches the earth again. His work is done.
You shouldn't be losing your temper. You're losing credibility
This is ridiculous one get get ranked so highly and still get crap , how stupid does a human get?
Thank god all are not so stupid.
His credibility was shot when he said he was a prophet!
Hello tantrum, good day to you.
I have started 10 yers ago and no I am not ranked over the Bible,Quran or Bhagwat Gita by sales but by the fact it is a better book.
The Bible sales started 2000 years ago give me some more time to catch up with it.
If anyone believes they can write a better books ,pleaese do so.
Lots of people can write better books than ourselves. What's the problem? Aren't you being too proud ?
I don't believe I have ever seen someone so self consumed and arrogant with their own work.
What ..IF.. I said that I was a true prophet and God told me to tell everbody that he understood the human languages well enough that we do not need to interpret what he said.
That he said exactly what he meant to say as if a lawyer was going to go over it and make sure that God fulfilled his obligations.
What ..IF.. He also said that every message that his messanger Angel (Gabriel) was delivered in like manner.
..IF .. that were true what would you do with your library of books of translations?
..What.. if.. God said that we should understand his word as if we were little children, and that we should leave our intelect out of he equation? OH I think that he did say that in scripture.
Where are the prophets?
Come out, come out you cowards!
Do you understand the point of religion and the bible?
many things really. The two that come to mind first.
1. to acknowledge my creator and obide by a few simple rules.
2. to gain the gift of eternal life through my savior.
Well this is why it was "designed to make you believe". The bible and religions purpose is to control you from acting like an animal. It has nothing to do with defining a creator. You took their bait.
Do you think your belief should stay current or evolve?
You want me to believe that I am the "brainwhashed" one. But the devil has used many tools to make God seem unreal. and you don't read scripture, you use what you have heard from other people(mayby Dawkins). I feel for you at this point.
how can I take you serious when you have little or no scriptural knowledge?
hows this "the way in which Marines are trained is far inferior to that of the coast gaurd"?
"I have never been a marine, I have never been in the coast guard"
I am 3/4 of the way through the bible.
I have read enough to understand it's purpose. It's purpose is to control your belief, not to define a creator.
You said that you can see that The bible "controls" our beliefs. And it does until we learn to not interpret it. When we see past the interpretations we are free.
Free in deed. Then the bible encourages growth and expansion.
Growth and expansion within the confines of God. Anything with confines is limited.
scripture is like digging up tree roots, it never ends. I have not ever felt "confined".
GOD is infinite and not confined by anything or any man.
Your God confines your mind from making rational statements.
Your God also gives you something to believe to keep your follower mind from acting as an animal.
Some need a follower belief to prevent animal behaviour. As you see, some of you believers still act as animals, no matter the guidance.
You took the devils bait. He is nobody's friend either.
I like to think of it as staying under his umbrella of love and protection.
That is the interpretation you drew from it. It's purpose is to keep you from acting like an animal and give you something to believe in.
It obviously provided you with belief. It didn't work for me.
I guess the way we feel about things is diffrent for each of us.
but if it is raining it is raining regardless of how we feel about it. We can interpret our feelings but not the facts of the rain.
When it is raining one person is going to go to sleep, another wants to run down the street, another may feel sexy and another will be sad. We can interpret our feelings and beliefs without changing the facts.
We can feel any way we want to but we can not interpret away the truth.
If anyone wants to interpret written words in such a way as to feel better about what we say that is written OK; But the truth of the words are unchanged.
If a person want to fool themselves they can do that. If they want to jump off a building they can do it,
I am not advising any of these things. They can feel as they choose. But the facts do not change.
How do you read this literally Jerami?
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
and then console it with your god...People for money.
I am truly happy that your book has some success for you. However, these poems are not scripturaly complementive.
WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT WRITING A BOOK ???? AND ABOUT RANKING WITH THE BIBLE ????? R U CRAZY ??? OR 2 PROUD ?
The three of you can gett together and try writing a better book. If you do i will say I am a liar but untill then sorry.
I write since I was a child. I have written screenplays, poems, short stories, books, you name it. So what ? if you rerad my haiku hubs you would see I'm a writer all right!! and English it's not my language
Everyone writes Tantrum but no one gets ranked over Bibnles, Qurans and Bhagwata Gitas.Stop being so foolsish please.
I have painted but i am no Picasso.
You're so offensive that I find it difficult to believe ,coming from so spiritual a person. Or maybe you're not? What i think is, that i write better than you. Let marine and sooner be the judges.
Judge me. Lets see If I don't know how to write
Is it possible for you to write a book wich gets ranked over Bibles, Qurans and Bhagwat Gitas?
Answer this question honestly and if you think you can then why in the world do you want to remain a nobody.?
Who said I'm a nobody ?? I'm a spanish writer
And my books don't rank over Bibles and q'urans and I can care less . I'm not a proud ,selfish guy as you.! I'm disappointed
So you can never write this calibre of a book? You agree you dont get ranked anywhere close to these masterpieces so why the attitude?
Should I say your spanish writing is crap when I dont know a word of spanish?
You know what ? I can't respect you anymore. You are an angry proud and no near God, common man. That's all.
Why should I take your nonsense?
I show you my credentials yet you call me names and I am supposed to say thank you, sorry will defend myself have taken nonsense from people for ten years I kept quiet and now I cannot take it any more.
You can always write a better book and when and if you get ranked over my work I will bow to you and call you a master and say god and the prophets are all bullshit.You need to show proof.
Hey now, He is the only chosen prophet to write in CAPS.
God told him to use caps when he's angry.
Is it possible for you to write a book wich gets ranked over Bibles, Qurans and Bhagwats Gitas?
Answer this question honestly and if you think you can then why in the world do you want to remain a nonbody.?
No, I know nothing.
You assume everything. You know more in the belief of your assumptions. You are all knowing. You are elite.
You are the savior and the prophet!
Is it possible for you to write a book which gets ranked over Bibles, Qurans and Bhagwat Gitas?
Answer this question honestly and if you think you can then why in the world do you want to remain a nobody.?
Back to rankings.
From our conversation, I am clearly inferior to your prophetic path.
Do you think life is about rankings? Maybe that is why you believe you are a prophet.
No. I understand that I know nothing. You believe you know all.
hi marine !!! Pride is a very nasty thing. look what it has done !!
Good day to you.
Yes, I thought he would remember that pride is often ignorant from the bible he is supposedly the prophet of.
Guess he missed that part while God was speaking to him.
Its the reason I am ranked so highly and you are not.
My point here is not to disprove prophecy. I believe in prophecy and prophets. this man is no prophet, no savior. My Savior was the most humble, the most gracious, perfect. His work is done. He only needs to harvest the saved, not exploit a book.
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