What does it take to become a Reprobate?

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   MrMaranathaposted 13 years ago

   What  does it take to become a Reprobate?
   
   Reprobate is a Biblical term which means "Rejected" or "Refused".  It is used to refer to someone that God has eternaly Rejected... Put away... As Esau who sold his Birthright for a single meal... whom God "Hated" or despised for having such a low regard for something so important...   What does it take to become a Reprobate?  and Who can be Re probated?
   
   

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   Doc Snowposted 13 years ago

   Sounds like you know more about the concept than I do... but I don't believe that "reprobation" is in fact possible.

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      Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." (Romans 10:9) Time is very short - very, very short.

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   Craig Suitsposted 13 years ago

   You know, believe it or not, I respect your right to believe in what ever you see fit, but when such beliefs become life governing doctrine as it does with most people with all their different religious sects, then my friend and fellow human, we're doomed.
   To answer your question, by now I must have been reprobated a thousand times over. I've always questioned the existance of any diety and the truth in all the worlds religious writings and for good reason, hundreds of reasons actually.
   
   We all need to focus on humanity and surviving rather than ancient fairy tales that will eventually lead to our demise. I can proove that beyond a shadow of doubt. What of your ancient beliefs can you prove? Or is proof a word with no meaning or significants in your world of religious beliefs as it is with the majority of the rest of the religious people of this world?
   
   I hate to come on so strong, you being a newbee here and all but you did ask, and if you ask on Hupages, you will get answers. I'm honored to be your first contact and welcome you aboard

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      Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse." (Romans 1:20)

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      Craig Suitsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm 70 years old and I'll bet you I've been "blown off" ten thousand times with answers like that. You see, you believers can't answer straight, simple questions so what's the point? We'll discuss it inside a mushroom shaped cloud one day soon...

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      MrMaranathaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Craig thank you for posting... I will get back to you on part of your post later (I have school this morning) But one thing I want to assure you... it is impossible for a person who has not already known the truth and turned from it to be "Reprobate"

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      MilesArmbrusterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Go ahead. Prove that an ancient fairy tale will eventually lead to our demise.

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      Craig Suitsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Piece of cake...
      In the last 20,000 years or so we're murdered 50 billion of our children by sending to to defend our diversified and idiotic religious beliefs. All this time we've managed to rebuild our destroyed cities had even replace our children

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      Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      What? You are not making any sense, Craig. Why are you filled with so much contempt?

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   Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years ago

   We all as descendants of Adam and Eve are "reprobate," and the way we become "re-probated" is through acceptance of the gift of salvation Jesus provided for us by dying in our place as sinners on the cross. If we reject this gift, which means we deny Him and what He did for us, refuse to repent of our sins and instead place ourselves at the center of our universe, then we deserve the penalty for rejection, which is to be eternally "put away," as you put it in hell, apart from God. "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23)

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      Doc Snowposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      With all due respect, the idea that a 'thoughtcrime' "deserves" an eternity of torment is bizarre and nonsensical to me.

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      Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." (1Corinthians 2:14)

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      Doc Snowposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "Unnatural"--yes, that's a good word for the concept of eternal damnation.  God's justice is supposed to be higher, more perfect.  And His love is supposed to be so much greater, that Christ suffered for us all.  Yet a thought is damnable?

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      Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Not sure where you're getting the idea that "a thought is damnable." One either accepts the gift of salvation or not; if a person repents of his/her sins and accepts the gift, s/he spends eternity in heaven. That simple.

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      Doc Snowposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ah!  But one must believe, mustn't one?  And that's a matter of faith; there's no knowing in the usual sense.  It's "as through a glass darkly."  If one believes, then acceptance is a 'no-brainer.'  And if not, then what has one to accept?

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      Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." (Revelation 3:20) God doesn't force Himself on anyone. He offers us a choice.

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      Craig Suitsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Utter poppycock. My god it really amazes me how so many of you believers absolutly know what happened thousands of years ago and why. On top of it all, none of you have once once of proof you can back your claims up with.Astounding!

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      Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." (Psalm 14:1)

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      Doc Snowposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The same old line:  you are born bad.  You must be 'saved'--so urgent a priority for an all-loving, all-powerful God, that He Himself submitted to mortal torture at human hands to offer you an out-- if you just accept inconsistency as literal Truth.

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       Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." (Galatians 6:7)

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       Doc Snowposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       "Whatsoever he soweth, he shall reap."
       
       An interesting quote, in the context of a discussion of "reprobation"--it's one of the ones that suggests Salvation by works, not purely grace.  In Calvinism, OTO, "reprobation" isn't earned--it's God's choice.

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       Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       "Doc" Snow - you should try reading the Bible or going to listen to a knowledgeable pastor preach - then you might begin to understand that the Bible isn't as simple as you would like to make it out to be.

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       Doc Snowposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you, DBDT--but I've been there and done that, quite extensively.  My whole point here is that the Bible is NOT, in fact, "that simple."  To shoehorn it into the vice (how's that for a mixed metaphor?) of literalism is folly, IMO.

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       Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Who's trying to "shoehorn it into the vice of liberalism" The Bible isn't wholly literal, as you must know from your reading and study of the Book?

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       Doc Snowposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       "shoehorn it into the vice of liberalism"
       
       Ws that a Freudian slip?  ;-)

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       Dubuquedogtrainerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Call it what you want - it was a simple typo due to fatigue. Freud is old school, like some of the other nonsense on here. I don't enjoy arguing, but I love God and He has called me to share the Truth to prevent people from eternal separation from Hi

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       Doc Snowposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Just kidding, DBDT.  No special significance attached--just an amusing letter substitution, such as anyone might make!  Well, I don't want to make you argue, so I'll close with a quote you may like:  "Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him."

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   onegoodwomanposted 12 years ago

   A terrible hardening of the heart.   A willfull choice to deny God, time after time.
   A REFUSAL to heed His calling.
   
   A deliberate and willful ( though, 'intelligent' ) choice to deny that God is your creator.

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