Can the choice of our religious beliefs always be accepted by the Heavenly Fathe

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  1. Kiss andTales profile image79
    Kiss andTalesposted 2 years ago

    Can the choice of our religious beliefs always be accepted by the Heavenly Father ?

    I just would like to know how many think that the Heavenly Father accepts all worship.
    Based on these scripture I think it is vital to have the correct choice what about you ?
    2Ti 3:7 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth.
    Ro 1:21For although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their senseless hearts became darkened.

  2. WiccanSage profile image93
    WiccanSageposted 2 years ago

    These kinds of questions are interesting to me because just in the way they are phrased they show that there are so many different perspectives. I'm answering it to simply illustrate a different perspective, with no intentions of trying to change anyone's previously held beliefs.

    Before I answer, I'd like to present my own perspective-- reality in my world view: First, I believe there are many Gods; I don't believe any one of them is a grand poohbah of sorts. Second, religion was not given by any Gods. It is just man-made methods for reaching out to that which we see as greater than ourselves, to celebrate that which we hold as sacred. 

    So from the perspective of a polytheist Pagan who sees religion as nothing more than a 'method' for pursuing a relationship with one's Gods, I would have to say that it doesn't matter if one God doesn't accept all religions. Seems to me, some people say their God does not accept all religions (Christians, Muslims, etc.), so that's fair enough. I don't worship that God, though, so I don't worry about what that God might command his followers to do.

    In turn, I would not expect followers of that God to worry about what my Gods might expect of me.

    My Gods, in my beliefs, don't really care about religion. It's all a human concept, and if it helps us make sense of our spiritual journey, so be it. They appreciate being honored, but do not demand worship (they have far greater concerns, and people have free will) and do not make demands on us to follow any specific religion. They're more worried about whether that religion is actually beneficial in helping me serve them, my family, my community, etc.-- if the religion is helping me grow and improve and reach my potential, that's fine.

    1. Tusitala Tom profile image67
      Tusitala Tomposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      An answer I can readily accept as coming from someone who has actually given the question some thought.  We all need to develop a philosophy that is acceptable to all levels of our being: body, mind and spirit, and this one sounds like it does.

    2. WiccanSage profile image93
      WiccanSageposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      TY, Tom, kind of you to say. I agree about developing a philosophy that works for us, which is why it's not one-size-fits all. It's more about finding the best fit.

    3. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you you Mackenzie for your reply . I agree you admit and agree you worship your choice ! The true God knows .but I believe we must be at our own buiness in faith .And be sure that what ever we do in worship is long lasting in life and future.

    4. WiccanSage profile image93
      WiccanSageposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      N, again you misunderstand. You told me repeatedly ur God hates me. I say it's sad you believe that. I'm not commenting on your God, or even Xtianity. I'm saying I'm sad for U, to live with a negative, sad, hateful, fearful point of view like that.

    5. WiccanSage profile image93
      WiccanSageposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The majority here is Xtian, that is why I'm 'in the midst' of talking to Christians. I don't have a problem with that, as most do not conduct themselves as you do.

      Don't really care what you think your God or book says about me &  my Gods.

    6. WiccanSage profile image93
      WiccanSageposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Why? You keep leaving comments on my answer! So out of courtesy I respond when people direct comments/emails/questions/etc to me. Note I have yet to initiate a conversation with you. I'm just responding, ridiculous as your comments can be.

    7. WiccanSage profile image93
      WiccanSageposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, leave it at that. Exactly... I only worry about what my Gods say. You need to follow what you believe, and leave me to follow what I believe.

      GMO = Genetically Modified Organisms. And they're not killing us, that's just a conspiracy theory.

    8. WiccanSage profile image93
      WiccanSageposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Since the dawn of agriculture humans have been 'tampering.' Antibiotics, immunizations, etc. are 'tampering'. Heart surgery, kidney transplant, cavity fillings-- 'tampering.'  GMOs are not always perfect, but they're not unsafe.

    9. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Tom thank you for your comment I wanted to say this earlier but you did not have a reply box.
      You are appreciated for your imput thanks.

    10. modernalchemyst profile image91
      modernalchemystposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Well said, WiccanSage. I don't worry about what someone else's god thinks. How they choose to worship is fine for them, but that's not my god. My view of it is, people who worry about how others worship are insecure in their faith.

    11. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Very interesting view Mackenzie S W.
      What you have said has some truth.
      I will address that and that is your gods do not care. True.
      My God and Father does , he has worked out a survival plan for humans who want to continue life free from sickness

  3. Oztinato profile image61
    Oztinatoposted 2 years ago

    Any religion or person that practices positive virtues such as love, compassion, tolerance etc is acceptable.
    If a person gets stuck on some obsessive doctrine that causes them to see others as unworthy it is a major failure.
    Think of the detailed story of the Good Samaritan which explains precisely that it is Love and compassion (not a specific religion) that makes a person eligible to be called "religious".

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your very interesting answer , I agree that if a person should see others as unworthy it is a major failure. I believe you have express this very well.
      Because we can not judge another human equal to ouself
      From Gods laws he evented

    2. Oztinato profile image61
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Norine
      You are presenting an awful and grossly intolerant warped idea of religion here. It is obsessive, ugly and sinful. I have met agnostic and even atheists with more "religion" than you. Goodbye.

    3. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Oztinato
      The point was that God's people should have done what the Samaritan did, not that the Samaritan's religion  was correct. People doing something correct in one aspect of life don't make them correct on all aspects.

    4. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Norine
      Has the day of Pentecost already happened or are we to still wait for "It"?

    5. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Norine
      A simple yes or no question not a question for you to question my understanding. Where in the scripture does it tell Norine to wait? Where does scripture tell Norine to tell other people to wait? Chapter and verse please. Has the spirit come?

    6. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      You have not provide one single chapter or verse that tells Norine or any other person to go and wait for the Holy Spirit, could that be because that event has already happen? Has Jesus already sent the Holy Spirit?

    7. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Norine
      Again I'm not talking about tons of other things that disciples of Christ have done or will do.
      Chapter and verse for your famous "WAIT" or "YOU HAVEN"T WAITED" or something close to that statement. There must be chapter and verse you say it?

    8. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Norine
      I read every reference you give, and NONE of them say that you or anyone else is to go and WAIT as you put it. You are making up the WAIT thing. No scripture to back up what you say, you know what that makes you?

    9. Ericdierker profile image46
      Ericdierkerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      This is some serious avoidance of a straight forward question of inquiry.
      It seems to me that through some translation and transliteration the word wait has supplanted patience. Patience is still being active, wait indicates inaction.

    10. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Again, no reference. The Apostles were to wait. Has not what they were waiting for already happened? Was it not the Holy Spirit they were told to wait for? Has it not been sent? Why do you direct others to wait with out scripture? Are You waiting?

    11. Ericdierker profile image46
      Ericdierkerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Hmm? Christ told them to cast a net a certain way. Not me. Christ told Peter he would falter before the rooster crowed. Not me. I think he told one to get out of the tree. Not me. He told another not to tell of the miracle. Not me. Circumcision?

    12. Ericdierker profile image46
      Ericdierkerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      It just struck me Norine that a derogatory comment from you is really a compliment.

    13. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I'm done, as long as everyone knows your waiting directives are something you have made up, they can believe deception or ignore it, their choice. I already knew you were wrong.

    14. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you again, to see your modus operandi in action is priceless. People need to know that disagreement with Norine's understanding is to be sided with Satan. I notice you haven't found your famous wait command yet. Hint: it's not there.

    15. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Acts 1:4 was not directed at you or me, and even if it was the event has already happened. You want the holy spirit? read John 14 15-17. Nothing there about waiting until Norine thinks you got it. Perhaps following directions would be a better withes

    16. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      An unrepentant mind and heart does not know the things of God Norine, Repent, stop the rationalization and diversion.

    17. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Joh 14:15-16  "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper (HS), that He may be with you forever; No waiting, just go and sin no more. (One of his commandments) Repent.

    18. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Norine it was Jesus asking the Father to send the Holy Spirit to those that Keep His (Jesus) commandments. One of Jesus commandments was to go and sin no more. You have not repented and believe you can continue in sin, that is darkness, repent.

    19. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      1cor 9:22 does not say "to the sinner I became a sinner"  Repent

    20. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The active in unrepentant sin shall not enter the kingdom of God. The blood doesn't cover your sin, it allows it to be forgiven assuming you stop. Your heart can be changed, it starts with repentance. Repent turn away from the foul  and vulgar.

    21. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      LOL
      Add denial when you get around to realizing that you need to repent.

    22. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Repent from what?
      LOL you know. Isa 43:25  "I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins. Is the way God has always been, repent, turn to Him and He will forgive, that is New and Old Covenant. Repent

    23. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Norine I did not ask you to insult and call people names !
      You say this woman ask us , are you referring to you and the Demons ! Because that's exactly who you sound like. Through with you.

    24. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Also misfit its my question and call  to make sure no one is attacked on my account based on the question . You can not tell me how I feel about that .
      And I will do what ever I can to rectify the situuation.
      Hp allows it.

    25. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit let her save you ! Jesus did not use this abusive manor .he was kind and merciful, it's a turn off ! Its the very thing that atheist love because it's barbaric.  They know it's wrong , call them one and see .
      You speak according to your own.

    26. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit maybe you forgot  comments she made in your Hubs , your replies is not  she's fine.
      Notice , "Norine, you are becoming a borderline stalker. "
      You also told her to go find some one else to save.
      You say one thing , but you do another misfit

    27. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      What you allowed her to do is fine for you ! But not for me.
      That's all , and again you told her to go save some one else.
      You are not consistent .

    28. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Stephanie written Mt 6:6But when you pray, go into your private room and, after shutting your door, pray to your Father who is in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you.Some things are between you and the Father,

    29. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Norine you say read and study ,but when some one else doesit now what is your religion.I do not know Ann L.
      But she did a very good job with scriptures and getting to the purpose of the question.
      This is a personal exam for ones self with Father .

    30. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Another thing the mustard seed was at that time well known to that Generation of people , some people today have never seen one ,it does not mean this is not true .
      You would be better developing your points from your hubs.
      Respect mine.

    31. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit in your world this is your battle !
      You express that in your own hubs and question.
      You are not on my question , but your own.

  4. tamarawilhite profile image92
    tamarawilhiteposted 2 years ago

    If you believe in X religion, you are agreeing to the terms of that faith.
    In Christianity, God prefers the Christians who follow those rules, but Christians outside the rules probably still get in.
    In Islam, Allah loves Muslims and hates non-Muslims. Allah also hates Muslims who don't stay within narrow confines of acceptable behavior, which is why Mohamed himself said hell will mostly be women.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting Tamara I am laughing at the last part of your comment ! really well I am sure his mother had him there
      If that was the case lol!  But on a serious note I totally agree you agree to the terms of that faith if it is X religion.
      Thank you

    2. rimbin profile image60
      rimbinposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      In christianity,Jesus wants a small place in your heart.He only want the people to follow what he said.He didn't  told about any rituals.

    3. profile image56
      Norine Williamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      GOD doesn't want "a piece" of our heart but ALL of our heart!  "Love the LORD thy GOD with ALL thy heart..." (Matt22:37)!
      TRUE!  "NO MORE RITUALS" (Communion or Holy Eucharist) for "CHRIST HAS DONE IT ALL!"

  5. Ericdierker profile image46
    Ericdierkerposted 2 years ago

    Religion is societal and human. Spirituality and faith and a connection with God is different. It is so clear, for instance, that each Christian views God differently. Making each Christian's God a little bit different. Joe's Jesus is different than K&T even though it may be the same God, ultimately. You cannot get in Joe's head.
    I think my God is the same as my wife's. But that is folly.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Eric ! You are so right its basically each and everyones relationship as one on one. As the diciples followed Jesus and worshiped who Jesus worshiped and prayed to Jehovah. They each had to still mantain their own relationship with them.

    2. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      "each Christian views God differently"
      True, which is why we study and keep trying on different glasses until we see things clearly as they truly are. There is only one God, the prescription to see Him clearly is not yet worn by all.

    3. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Norine
      No one denies whom or where the vision correction will come from. Many claim to have 20/20 concerning scripture yet their expressed understanding shows the need for an  eye doctor. Do you wear glasses? I do, my prescription changes, yours?

    4. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I think disciples know who the eye doctor is. But the question is raised, why do you imply you have 20/20 when many others see you as need an eye check up? You argue a lot, that is a vision difference thing. Your glasses make my vision a blur.

    5. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your concern. I am not the one so vulgar on the treads that hub pages has to delete the entire thread. Your fruits/actions show the spirit you have.

    6. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I Cor 9:22  is not an excuse for a foul vulgar mouth. Christ told the sinner caught to go and sin no more not to cherry pick scripture to rationalize their sin. Man doesn't need to see the heart he can see the fruit, rotten, vulgar, foul language.

    7. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I don't need to repent of a foul vulgar mouth, Ms. finger pointer. I would suspect an unrepentant sinner should not be giving advice to no one. (isn't that a hypocrite?)

    8. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      An unrepentant heart doesn't know blasphemy, to continue in sin is only darkness, and to rationalize one's sin is a loosing battle, only darkness would attempt such things. Repent

    9. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The new covenant does not allow you to continue to talk like the darkness in the hearts and minds of foul vulgar speaking people. You are righteous only if you do righteous things, a vulgar foul speaking tounge is not righteous, Repent.

    10. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      1Jn 3:8  the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
      Repent, change the heart that speaks foul vulgar language as OK.

    11. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      This is about an unrepentant heart that was able to spew foul vulgar language, rationalizing that to the sinner I became a sinner. The blood of Jesus is not for active sinners, Repent.

    12. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Those that claim to walk in the light because He is in the light do not do things of darkness. No example in Christ of a foul vulgar disrespecting mouth, who taught you that is was OK? Turn away from such things and repent.

    13. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Your belief that you can remain in and practice sin (as long as you are witnessing) is a doctrine of darkness, to be perfectly OK with the things of darkness is telling. That is an excellent example of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

    14. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      1Co 11:25  In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me."
      The blood of the new covenant doesn't allow for active sin, repent.

    15. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      He only forgets them if you quit doing them, how complicated is that, sounds like a very forgiving God to me. Repent.

    16. gmwilliams profile image84
      gmwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      BEST ANSWER BY FAR!!!!!

    17. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      These spirit fallen Angels are demon gods.
      No they dont care because they want you to die forever like Adam and Eve. But that is not what our creator wants
      He wants paradise on earth. And he will get it done rather people support it or not.

  6. Rich kelley profile image60
    Rich kelleyposted 2 years ago

    2Timothy 3:7  always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

    This above verse is talking about the Godlessness in the last days. This is not talking about the disciples of Christ that have not turned away from the living God. This above verse is not talking about those that study the word of God to find and live the truth. We become shining lights on a hill by living not saying.

    Jeremiah 32:37-39  "Behold, I will gather them out of all the lands to which I have driven them in My anger, in My wrath and in great indignation; and I will bring them back to this place and make them dwell in safety. "They shall be My people, and I will be their God; and I will give them one heart and one way, that they may fear Me always, for their own good and for the good of their children after them.

    Jeremiah is talking about God’s people that have not turned their backs on Him. The way you turn your back on God is to follow after other gods or beliefs. Other gods beliefs will not be accepted by God. God has always been a jealous God. Much of the Old Testament writings are a history of what happens when you turn away from God.

    Isaiah 59:2-3  But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear. For your hands are defiled with blood And your fingers with iniquity; Your lips have spoken falsehood, Your tongue mutters wickedness.

    This sounds like people doing something wrong. Again we are to do what God wants not what we like or want to think is correct. We are told to study, not to be diverse but to get things correct so that we will not be separated from God. It is the teachings of other gods that separate us from the living God. When our beliefs are God's beliefs then we will be in one accord and not separated thus accepted.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Rich ! The best part of your comment is a powerful one ' It is the teachings of other gods that separate us from the living God. When our beliefs are God's beliefs then we will be in one accord and not separated thus accepted.'
      I agree

    2. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      That would be "The" gospel, not the gospel seen via your corrective lens.

    3. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Clean up your act so that hub pages doesn't have to. Repent before you continue passing out spiritual advice.

    4. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      So your judgment of someone vs your actual foul vulgar unrepentant mouth, which will be forgiven? Out of the heart your mouth spoke. I nor anyone else should spend time considering anything that comes from a heart in darkness, repent.

    5. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Your heart saw fit to type foul vulgar language that resulted in hub pages deleting the entire thread. Those kinds of actions are not from a light shining on a hill, they are darkness, repent.

    6. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      No one said what Peter did was right, Christ put it back on. Allow Christ to heal the results of your foul vulgar unrepentant heart, instead of looking for loop holes. If you don't want to be accused when He returns you need to repent and turn away.

    7. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      1John 2:29  If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.
      The topic is still, despite your distractive spirit, a disrespectful foul vulgar spirit that talks via a keyboard. Comfortable with it?

    8. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I would like like to apologize for to Rich and Planks and anyone that has a experienced your cruel behavior on my Question . Please exclude yourself from my question !
      I sure Jesus is not proud of your conduct ! No one is but you!

    9. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Hi gmwilliams ! I like Rich answers he even uses scriptures to explain his meaning ! I appreciate this about him !
      Its nice gmwilliams you came by to share your point.
      Thanks !

    10. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      You did and I thank you for that , but now you are attacking people for the same right you have . I know the difference .thank you.

  7. MichaelMcNabb profile image77
    MichaelMcNabbposted 2 years ago

    That verse makes it quite clear.  But, you can't know if you have been "able to come to an accurate knowledge of the truth" since all  you can do is "always learning" and "they knew God" unless you somehow know that you "glorify him" which is not a matter of your opinion but the only thing you can do and know is to "thank him" but do you always feel compelled to do so?

    Speaking as a former saved Christian now Atheist / Agnostic I can tell you my Christian side still calls out to thank the lord and pray every time I turn around which is very strange to me.  Perhaps it's just deep programming in the brain or maybe salvation really doesn't go away when we change our minds.  Guess I'll never know.

    1. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Michael
      It should be evident by the religious bible quoting voices of the world, you will never please any of them. Your approach, You and God has a better chance than any of the man made religious processes.

    2. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      And Satan told them that a foul vulgar sailors mouth was acceptable in the temple of the living God.  Out of the heart the mind spoke, change your heart, Repent

    3. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I'll take that as a confession, now all that needs to follow is repentance and turning away from the vulgar foul heart that caused the mouth to speak in such a way. He made me do it is not a repentant statement.

    4. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The only unbelief I'm seeing is that you don't believe you should repent of foul vulgar language that requires the world to police. In the world but not of the world requires turning away, repenting and sinning no more.

    5. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      It is not ok for a child of God to Sin.
      The spirit of God is everywhere but that is not justification for those that "Claim" to be his to commit sin and then rationalize and twist scripture to justify the darkness they are in.

    6. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Heb 3:19  So we see that they were unable to enter because of unbelief.
      Excellent scripture, your unbelief that even under the New Covenant you are not allowed to turn away from God and sin. You quote the scriptures, thy following them.

    7. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      If you are not forgiven of your sins because you never repented or asked to be forgiven you are a sinner, and there are no sinners in the kingdom of God, Old or New covenant. The Blood of the new covenant is not a license to sin.

    8. Ericdierker profile image46
      Ericdierkerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Michael (I hope you stuck around through the crazy to get this) Thank you for sharing this. I had not heard a story like this before. I will give it some time to ponder.

    9. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit lets be real ! Norine also called you ignort and fool , it was not fine then nor is now . And you are the one that decides what right and wrong about the scriptures , tell us please what is right about them, because you condemn .

    10. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit if you want to be Norine 's  fool and ignort  person that is you .but no one else has to live up to it or take it. Your passion is not another you keep yours , I will settle for mine.
      So you are not human a wo(man) you define that.

    11. MichaelMcNabb profile image77
      MichaelMcNabbposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      So much to say in 250 characters

    12. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Micheal ! some how I missed your comment earl!
      Sorry  ?
      I must say I do not think people forget what would cause a great change in life. I think the Father is always himself
      We just have to change for the good not because of human error.

    13. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit you youself admit if you own a question you can do as you please , you are in charge.
      Jesus is not the Father he is the son of God who also prays to the Father.
      Notice the scripture she gives is from the old testment.
      Valid he can as want

    14. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit we came into this world because the Father wanted it , he does as he pleases rather we agree or disagree in any matter , we do not own anything , neither if we die. I was saying if he hates somthing he owns it we dont.

    15. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Adoamang! I am happy you agree !

    16. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Free from death. We have lived under the so called gods of this system allowed to prove a point. They hate humans , they know the finally of bad practices. Knowing full well. That humans will die if they.ignore the Father moral standards.

  8. Kiss andTales profile image79
    Kiss andTalesposted 2 years ago

    Misfit thank you for your comment , I totally agree God can read hearts ! He is all knowing and forgiving as you stated .
    But the end of your statement reverses as God can not tell , he is all knowing as you first stated remember.
    He certainly knew that Cain had a problem with his brother Abel.  He counseled him get the mastery over yourself.

    Ge 4:6 Then Jehovah said to Cain: “Why are you so angry and dejected?
    Ge 4:7 If you turn to doing good, will you not be restored to favor? But if you do not turn to doing good, sin is crouching at the door, and its craving is to dominate you; but will you get the mastery over it?”

    Pr 21:2 All of a man’s ways seem right to him, But Jehovah examines the hearts.

    Which is clear what seems right to us may not be right to the Heavenly Father.

    1. Rich kelley profile image60
      Rich kelleyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Luk 6:45  The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.
      God shows us the heart by what one speaks.

    2. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit what you said is correct of you not being sure.
      you are not sure does not mean it did not happen.
      The bible said he created man
      Ge 1:27And God went on to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female.

    3. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit you have not once define pagan from truth. Instead you claim pagan to every belief anybody quotes from ! You error here. Define before you condemn.

  9. StephanieWeemhoff profile image71
    StephanieWeemhoffposted 2 years ago

    Do you accept compliments and praise that are not directed at you? God is loving, but He is just. If you have not repented of your sin, you are separated from Him. a Holy God cannot tolerate sin. It is not in His character. You can worship an idol or false god, but if you have not taken these steps, your end destination when you leave this world will not be with Him.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Stephanie for your share in the question.
      And really the question was for us individuals to think about not complement me or either praise for that should be directed to the Heavenly Father Jehovah.
      So should our prayers in secret.

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      Beth Gulliverposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      "Do you accept compliments and praise that are not directed at you?"

      No, but when I see someone being kind to someone else, I still acknowledge that they are being kind.  I have a hard time believing that God is more self-absorbed than I am.

    3. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit the heart does not lie , the tongue does , we can talk all day on HP but what matters is whats deep down inside that leads to your final actions of good and bad.
      Cains jealously lead to kill his brother
      We are people like them ,no different

    4. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Ayoub Jesus first ministry started with the Jews , then his deciples continued the work going door to door.
      This work has not changed only until the word to stop.
      People have a, idea, of what a, Christian is but only the definition , not living one

  10. Jane Grey profile image90
    Jane Greyposted 2 years ago

    This is a vital question,  because if the Heavenly Father doesn't accept our worship, then that means He probably doesn't accept us as His children! The Bible says that it's crucial to worship the one true God in order for Him to accept our worship.

    You've quoted some great verses here, and I have a few more to add to add to the discussion of what the Bible says about this.

    The story of Nadab and Abihu in Leviticus 10 tells about how priests offered "profane fire" to the Lord. He had given specific instructions on how to worship Him, and the things he instructed were not burdensome to do. Yet they thought they had a better idea of how to offer worship, and were killed as a result.

    I love the clearness of Isaiah 1 in this matter of whether God will accept our worship. If our hands are full of blood, He will not accept our worship.
    “The multitude of your sacrifices—
    what are they to me?” says the Lord.
    “I have more than enough of burnt offerings,
    of rams and the fat of fattened animals;
    I have no pleasure
    in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats.
    When you come to appear before me,
    who has asked this of you,
    this trampling of my courts?
    Stop bringing meaningless offerings!
    Your incense is detestable to me.
    New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations—
    I cannot bear your worthless assemblies.
    Your New Moon feasts and your appointed festivals
    I hate with all my being.
    They have become a burden to me;
    I am weary of bearing them.
    When you spread out your hands in prayer,
    I hide my eyes from you;
    even when you offer many prayers,
    I am not listening.
    Your hands are full of blood!
    Wash and make yourselves clean.
    Take your evil deeds out of my sight;
    stop doing wrong.
    Learn to do right; seek justice.
    Defend the oppressed.a
    Take up the cause of the fatherless;
    plead the case of the widow.
    “Come now, let us settle the matter,”
    says the Lord.
    “Though your sins are like scarlet,
    they shall be as white as snow;
    though they are red as crimson,
    they shall be like wool.

    And we see, in a less poetic form, the same thing said in Hebrews:
    Because we are sinful (like you pointed out in Ro. 1:21), we need an intercessor in order to be able to communicate with God (Hebrews 9:22). "In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness."

    Thanks for the question and the discussion! These are great things for us all to be thinking and talking about.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      You have mention exactly what this question is all about ! thank you for your wonderful answer ! It is so nice to meet you Ann !You certainly have shared some good points ! We all must examin our attitude with our worship to the Heavenly Father

    2. Adoamang profile image60
      Adoamangposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The best of answer really I like it.

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      snapcracklepopposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Very precise and clear explanation of what's acceptable to Jehovah God and what's not when it comes to one's religion. Also, a religion that caters to and excepts the traditions of men is not acceptable to God (Mark 7:1-13).

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    frumpletonposted 2 years ago

    I think God allows all worship if it is for Him.  He can't blame us when there are so many different bibles.  At least, I don't think so.  The only bible I grew up with was the King James version, but I guess there are lots more.  If he can read your heart, then he at least knows you are trying to do the right thing.  Maybe the reason why the bible has so many parables is to make us think.  If He just spelled everything out for us, exactly, then, I think most people wouldn't pay much attention.  They would just stick to the 10 commandments.  God won't send you to hell (if there is such a place) for trying to do the right thing.  And in the bible (somewhere) it says God knows ahead of time about what's going to happen.  He has even caused hardening of the heart toward some (don't recall who) I think it had something to do with the Pharoh.  So, if God already knows ahead of time what's on people's minds, and can even influence them, I doubt if he will punish you.  I think in the book of Joel, it says God knows you even before you are born.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Very good comment Frumpton ! I truley like your sincerity of your answer I too believe our Heavenly Father is mercyful if we look back in history he has seen many generations come and go and tolerated alot of mouth abuse !
      But way more patient.

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      Belisariusgwposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      You ran a circle around my statement of disagreement with your view that "the father does care" how we follow him.

      I stand by

      "Serve others before yourself, and the father will take you in."

    3. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Freed  you feel like you saved your marriage !You needed to rely on the Heavenly Father for what ever you needed.He gives to those trusting in him.
      I new a story simlar to yours and in the end the man tried to kill her and him both by the same means

  12. profile image61
    Belisariusgwposted 2 years ago

    The various major world religions are but different rays of light from the same lamp.

    As long as your beliefs but others before you, the father cares not the mode of transport you use to see him.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Belisariusgw. Your comment is appreciated.
      If you consider the scriptures in the best Answer God is a God of Order.
      He does care ! If not the moon would not be on time, nore the sun. He is the master of order.

    2. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit your question has nothing to do with the subject question.
      But you already answered so I am satified with that.

    3. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Misfit I plainly ask a question you answered , but now youare doing extra then nessary ! Also you dont have to opinion my question and answers as BS. Just dont include yourself in them thats all.

    4. profile image61
      Belisariusgwposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I respectfully disagree.

      Jesus was a radical for his time seeking spiritual truth.

      Truth is found by serving others before yourself, regardless of religion.

    5. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your comment BGW.
      But if you Notice My question was based on the Heavenly Father , Not Jesus his son.
      Psalms 83:18 .And thank you for your kind respect.

    6. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      We can agree and disagree , but with respect. If you can not do that misfit which you do not want to ! Then you should move on to another question , this one is not for you.

    7. profile image61
      Belisariusgwposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I mention Jesus as an example of a man who defied orthodox religious beliefs of his respective era in search of truth.

      His truth was indeed finding the Heavenly Father (the main subject of your question).

    8. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      BGW Jesus was not a regular man as yourself. He was created by the Heavenly Father for a purpose no normal human could accomplish.
      We need cures for death , sickness , crime, food shortages ,we need housing with out the tax of the land.
      Jesus paid

    9. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Freed you will have to pay a price to them because you took the offer.
      The word of God does condemns witch craft , spells , omens, fortune telling .Duet 18:11. Any one !verse 12 says the person is destestble and he is driving them away from you

  13. AF Mind profile image68
    AF Mindposted 2 years ago

    Malachi Chapter 3, Verse 6.
    "For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed."

    To say that He accepts any belief is false by this verse. He does not change. What is moral and immoral are the same. So His opinion remains the same.

  14. Kathleen Cochran profile image81
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 years ago

    I have a hub, Is There Only One Way to God, that might interest you.  My answer is too involved to simplify here.  Hope you find it interesting.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I did and I left you a comment on your very good Hub .Thanks Kathleen I apologize for not seeing your comment sooner , I work and many times now I read late at night replies , looking forward to reading more of your work. You have alot to read !

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    Abhaypreet Singhposted 2 years ago

    These kinds of questions are interesting to me because just in the way they are phrased they show that there are so many different perspectives. I'm answering it to simply illustrate a different perspective, with no intentions of trying to change anyone's previously held beliefs.

    Before I answer, I'd like to present my own perspective-- reality in my world view: First, I believe there are many Gods; I don't believe any one of them is a grand poohbah of sorts. Second, religion was not given by any Gods. It is just man-made methods for reaching out to that which we see as greater than ourselves, to celebrate that which we hold as sacred.

    So from the perspective of a polytheist Pagan who sees religion as nothing more than a 'method' for pursuing a relationship with one's Gods, I would have to say that it doesn't matter if one God doesn't accept all religions. Seems to me, some people say their God does not accept all religions (Christians, Muslims, etc.), so that's fair enough. I don't worship that God, though, so I don't worry about what that God might command his followers to do.

    In turn, I would not expect followers of that God to worry about what my Gods might expect of me.

    My Gods, in my beliefs, don't really care about religion. It's all a human concept, and if it helps us make sense of our spiritual journey, so be it. They appreciate being honored, but do not demand worship (they have far greater concerns, and people have free will) and do not make demands on us to follow any specific religion. They're more worried about whether that religion is actually beneficial in helping me serve them, my family, my community, etc.-- if the religion is helping me grow and improve and reach my potential, that's fine.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Ayoub. What you miss is the point why did a book exist . And really these were scrolls from Hebrew and Greek , this is before Constantine.
      So now let's talk before that period the orignal scrolls were distributed to many people around the world .

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    Ayoub Lekposted 2 years ago

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13205948_f260.jpg

    I do not believe so ,because there is no Heavenly Father :

    1. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      If there is no Heavenly Father then there is no you .Isa 45:12 I made the earth and created man on it. You are a man and live on earth this is True.  The one who made this possible is our Heavenly Father. So some one is misleading you.

    2. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Ayoub , why does your knowledge stop at AD , After death of Christ , you have missed a lot of phophesy that proves he was the ginuine Messiah .
      He used a fleshly body to do a pacific job.
      But his original form was and is now a, spirit body Angel.

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      Ayoub Lekposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      No, my knowledge does not stop at AD,yours does,because you Christians still deny the very obvious facts.
      I am saying that the Bible distorted by clergymen and those who want to rule such Constantine.
      The proves of distortion are everywhere in..

    4. Kiss andTales profile image79
      Kiss andTalesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Ayoub I am totally aware about Constantine , and the Edicts of Milan. But way before this was the case Jesus had already filled many homes and communities with the truth from accurate scrolls they carried. Despite Jewish rebellion Jesus finished .

 
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