If you could have a beautiful,peaceful world but had to give up your free-will to get it, would you?
How will i enjoy this beautiful, peaceful world if i don't have a free-will?
For all I know, it is not really beautiful, I just don't have the 'free-will' to think otherwise.
Short answer- no
Free Will means the ability to choose to do good, but it also means the ability to choose poorly, make mistakes or even choose evil. It's messy and complicated and varys widely- just like human beings
A world without Free Will would be peaceful; the peace of the grave. Without Free Will, there would be no good, because you can't choose good if you have no choice
Is it good because god says it's good or good intrinsically?
From where I sit, both really. The things God wants tend to be more positive for self and others around, even if they're harder at first
think we were both commenting on my answer at the same time. If bad options are taken the only ones left are good. Leaving the only option, what type of good do you want to do. If that makes sense.
Nope. I enjoy my free-will too much. Plus you can always create a beautiful, peaceful world.
Move to a different location, get counseling, see a psychologist, learn people skills, make more achievements, learn from mistakes, make gardening a project, re-decorate the house, brighten your home, kick out those depressing family members, etc.
Sounds like you described efforts to create a more peaceful home environment for yourself. Creating a beautiful, peaceful world, however, will require the help of another 6 billion souls with similar goals. :0)
I don't believe there will ever been a peaceful world. There will always be someone who wants to be first and/or have more.
Since man does not have "Free Will" There is nothing to give up.
I am not quite sure I understand what you are saying, Dave. It sounds like you are saying that we do not have free will now. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I have heard this recently from 'scientific types' and if it is true our lives are meaningless. :0
Never, ever in a million years!!!!!.......Didn't have to think about this question!
This sounds like some kind of Luciferian paradise where he promises to give you a wonderful life if you surrender your soul and free-will to him. Spooky.
Hadn't thought of it like that, but yeah.....
Yes there are some who say the lack of Free Will would be a Hell on Earth because our souls are created free by God--free to choose between good and evil--and without that our actions would be meaningless.
no. i believe it wont be as beautiful and peaceful as it should be if you're stripped of your freedom.
Ok so as usual I disagree with the majority. As an atheist I believe that no one is currently in control of our world except us. When it comes down to it, if there was a way to have a real God who took control of all bad I would be okay with it. My thought is what God would allow all this bad. A real God would surely protect his creations. When you think about it the only "free Will" that would be taken is the "free will" to do bad. I think I could handle that. We live in a world where people justify their bad ways by using their "morals" and opinions. I think I could welcome living in a world where we all were put in our places and only lived for good.
but how can we live for good/choose good, if we don't have the option to choose?
I don't believe that, for good to be possible, we must also have evil; but I do believe that, to be able to choose good, we must have the option to choose otherwise.
Gotta love the -1 fairies who vote down because they disagree!
I find using the word 'atheist' and 'believe' in the same sentence a bit strange, but I like your answer nevertheless I like the phrase "we all were put in our places" because that is another word for Christian humility, which I do support.
atheist does not mean 'not believing'. In fact, they believe as much as Christians do, just not on God or Christ. I love this answer. I just want to say that it is really hard to tell what a REAL GOD would do or not.
Wouldn't peace be wonderful? But, nah, stubborn free-will is in my soul. When I'm pressed to do something someone else's way, I've got a knee jerk rejection of it.
So I like sitting on the porch in the evening at the ranch, listening to the bull frogs at the creek, watching the cats chase mice, checking out baby foxes in a rock pile, seeing a mama deer jumping back and forth across a fence to show the fawn how to do it. My mind stills and my heart finds peace.
Free will can get quite deep as how far the measures could go w/ o it... But beautiful and peace would b awesome!! Does this mean no jealousy or lack of trust?? I do hate being told what to do thou?? Hmmm?? Ok that's my final answer! Comprendo?
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