Does God Exist Independent Of Belief?

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   vveaseyposted 12 years ago

   Does God Exist Independent Of Belief?
   
   

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   kumar24894posted 12 years ago

   No. I will not consider that God is present till there is any proof.

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      CJ Sledgehammerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      By the same token, I will not consider God's non existence until I see proof of it.

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   BobMongerposted 12 years ago

   God wants us to believe in Him and the benefits of doing so are manifold, but when it comes right down to it we are the ones that need Him not the other way around.
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   kessposted 12 years ago

   Existence is God and God is existence, proven by those who believe and those who believe not.
   
   Remember a belief is a mind concept that must be first formed  before it can be doubted. and what does not exist to a particular mind cannot be doubted.

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      vveaseyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I hear ya.
      but the only thing belief proves in the absent of truth or proof
      is that the believer believe what he or she believes is true.
      which doesn't mean it true or not true it just means they believe it true. That's all it proves.

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      How then are beliefs (mind concept) formed? They are formed from knowledge...Truth(complete knowledge) and Falsehood (incomplete knowledge).
      Proof what is it? again knowledge - complete(truth) , or incomplete(falsehood) . The proof is the mind.

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      vveaseyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      knowledge is anything you know whether, true or false
      Proof is evidence.
      You can believe something's true based inconclusive proof, on no proof, or conclusive proof
      Mind is not proof. mind asists in finding proof

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Proof belongs to the mind and your mind cannot find the proof to accept the things I say. Why ? The knowledge is not present...

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   CJ Sledgehammerposted 12 years ago

   Sure He does. The Almighty is what He is regardless of our beliefs about Him. And, He doesn't diminish one bit in power or glory because one doesn't believe in Him or accept Him. They, therefore, are at a loss, not Him.

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      vveaseyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What does he look like?

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   Chasukposted 12 years ago

   This question currently has no definitive answer, and possibly never will.

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   ChitrangadaSharanposted 12 years ago

   God is a belief, and most of us love to live with this belief. In any case, the question of reasoning does not arise in matters of faith.

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   Darrell Robertsposted 12 years ago

   First I would need your definition of who or what God is to try to provide a good answer.  The answer is if God exist then God exist and that is that, there is no need for faith or belief because it would be a fact. 
   
   Example: Let us say that there is some old man in some cave some where and no one on the planet knows that he is there, he exist and he does not even need to have anyone know or believe that he is there in the cave. 
   
   If God were in a different location of the universe that we could not view God would exist, if we believe or not would be irrelavent.
   
   Best wishes.

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      vveaseyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Therefore the question does God exist independant of belief
      My definition of God for this question is the Judeo-Christian definition of God.

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   Jonas Jamesposted 12 years ago

   Whether God exists isn't a question of belief.  God exists by definition of the word exist.
   
   Exist: _______________?
   
   
   Do dogs blurgen?
   
   Blurgen: ______________?
   
   If you know what exist and blurgen means you can answer both questions.

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      vveaseyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The word God exists but does what it's referring to exist?

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      Jonas Jamesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "but does what it's referring to exist?"
      
      That's why it's important to define the word exist first, ie, before you start using it to qualify something.

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