The Greek translation of the "word made flesh" is "he pitched his tent among us." In "Brothers Karamozov," Dovtoevsky has a chapter entitled the "Grand Inquisitor" in which Jesus is tried again, this time by Christians, and crucified again. So how would Christians treat Jesus if once again, he pitched his tent among us? It is not uncommon for Christians to be so self righteous , and my fear is that they could not tolerate Jesus' brand of "Christianity" and I think we would string him up again. How pathetic! What are your thoughts?
Well friend, you have very little faith in Christians. One look in his eyes and we would know the truth.
Agreed. The faithful shall know him just as he is known by those who carry out and live his doctrines through the promptings of the spirit.
How's Texas sneakorocksolid?
'Course you would.
He is the guy advocating gay marriage and suggesting women be allowed to choose an abortion if they wish.
Faith in christians? Are they the ones calling jesus a liberal idiot?
While I do see that as a reasonable answer, I would very much like to see that quantified, what exactly would it be that one would see in the eyes that would convince?
Seriously? The historical figure of Jesus in the 21st century? He would be re-tried in the court of public opinion. He'd become a minor celebrity character in the tabloids. They would rename him Jezza. Stories would emerge about how he spent the night with a prostitute and a government tax official, headline: Jez beds with the feds! Positive public opinion of him would increase as a result. He would be offered a book deal. Films studios would fight for the rights. He'd be offered sponsorship deals worth millions. He'd turn them all down on the grounds that he was on a mission. He'd do charity work. The tabloids would love him. He'd be portrayed as a wacko with a heart of gold. A god source of material. Then they'd turn.
Charges would be filed against him for inappropriately touching sick people. His defence lawyers would argue he was trying to heal them. Public opinion would be divided. People would call radio phone in shows to give their views. Some would call him a misunderstood, naive man with good intentions. Others would condemn him as a lunatic with an unhealthy interest in small children. He would be hounded by Paparazzi. The tabloids would crucify him. Then move on to the next celebrity.
In later years some would wonder if jezza could ever make a comeback? Some would expect he will. Others not. Both would agree if he ever did, it would be the greatest comeback in history. The wait continues.
If he pitched his tent in Bumble Town - NZ.... His camping gear would get stolen and it would cost him 2x boxes of beer and a haircut; to get it back!
I'm afraid that you may be correct. We will not recognize him for who he is. He will not look anything like what he has been created to be.
He would be found guilty of blasphemy and attempting to overturn the status quo
However if we can repent of judging others we would be spared from being guilty of judging him.
If we can learn that the fight is within our selves and not outwardly we won't be guilty of throwing stones at him.
I don't think that Jesus actually attacked non believers.
His was a passive aggression. (by example)
I believe that he only overturned the tables in the temple grounds to make a point (he did not loose his temper). He knew that it was time to sacrifice himself and this would be his last act of defiance aimed at the Sanhedrin knowing what their reactions would be.
You do realize- a passive aggression is an oxymoronic statement. You do know you can't be both passive and aggressive? They are the opposite on another.
And, if religious context was in it's correct form...religion and Jesus, would be able to separate, just as it was when he lived.
And you know- IF he did live today- more and more people would be completely out of their mind, because they wouldn't believe anything he had to say.
That part I find funny, ironic and very believeable.
Have a great day people.
Yes, oxymoron ... the world is full of them.
I suppose that you can not see that there is action in in actions.
When you do nothing when you see a little old lady being assaulted you have done something.
When you choose to not make a choice you have chosen.
Yes! Passive aggression is real.
when you see an adversary about to step off of the Cliff and say or do nothing but watch, that is passive aggression.
Good point about the separation of Jesus and religion. I think Marshal McCluhan--not sure of the spelling, talked about how a charism get rootinized and the charism is then lost.
Jesus attempted to live among us but only 3-4 women believed him, called himself charles manson
Sneako…If I could think of anything else to do right now I would’t even respond to your unchristian post…Rodent is not as bad as say “varmint”…but that would be really unchristian.
Rather stick a needle in me eye than live next door to a christian.
Well then you're not qualified to judge me on Christian behavior. It would be like me judging your gayness I don't no much about gays so how could I possibly judge you?
Sneko...I know enough about christians to recognize when one is being unchristian.
I'm not in the business of judgment...But i know a dickhead when i stumble across one...
I love you how can you be so mean! Well if Being a Christian is wrong then not being a Christian must be right, right? Dickhead!
That is quite hypocritical. Every time I speak with you you are judging others. Especially homosexuals.
If the question is judgement of faith then the judgement of faith is the surviving wisdom of judgement to the mirrors of love is the judgement of fellowship beyond the ideology thy self takes preservstion beyond thy belief is thy statement for thy passages of biblical passages is a portal of xtreme linguistics of mystics and chronologies of languages, of non American Traditional systems of mirrors far and beyond your American Absedence not you my fair lady
For my fair lady maybe the fine tunning of the Andromeda of the after party of the after birth of the epidermal for my fair lady is the intelegence of wise knows best not to scream into another womens mind of life captured in the wind is the epidermal portal of language past the hidden secrets of language of love life of portrait of a ladies mind
Can you translate please? No offense, but without punctuation all of your thoughts run together and make your point unclear.
You never know what will be or what you;ll see in the mirror image of everness of life you are the inte4legent creation of understanding just remember we are from Mars and you are from Venus
It's obvious! He likes you and wants to hook-up!
There is so much we do not recognize that is for sure! Often times in my practice, very uptight parents cannot see the sadness in their teenagers' faces and eyes! let alone recognize Jesus if he was sitting in front of us.
Pitching a tent means something different to me. So I'm afraid my response would be inappropriate.
Trying to stray away (it is difficult) from that idea, I too would think no one would believe him. A lot of people would think... If its too good to be true, it probably isn't?
If you knew for a fact that he is who he says he is, how would you react?
Thats how I would react. "It is a pleasure to meet you, thank you for all you have done, wanna go surfing with me and my friends?"
How am I supposed to react? If I already know for sure it is him, the shock has subsided.
The (liberal)feebles wobble but they don't fall down! Mark you have nothing to contribute but insulting comments, move on.
What insulting comments? I was merely pointing out that jesus was the liberal of his day.
And we know what you think of liberals.
If he pitched a tent among us....in the midwest now....we'd find it odd because we a got a big ole snow storm comin' our way tomorrow.
Actually, look at it from a different perspective. In so many ways He is among us today - in the countenance of the many sick, downtrodden and helpless that we pass each and every day but choose not to aid them. The hymn, "A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief", truly sets the tone and spirit of this point - particularly the last verse. When we choose to not help our fellow beings in their time of need the day will come when we will realize, albeit too late, that the Savior stood before our eyes. What will be our feelings then? We would not be able to claim ignorance for each of us are impressed to execute charity among men but our own personal choice often blinds us from such realization.
Very well said. However, your statement would imply that people did not help their fellow beings before Jesus.
I would suspect that people throughout the ages did in fact help each other out in times of need, that compassion and understanding in that regard are qualities humans have had for a very long time.
I would also venture to comment that people do in fact help their fellow beings today in a lot of different ways, some from religious foundations and others not.
Helping your fellow man shouldn't be about heeding the words of someone else, for example, but instead it should be about being a human being that very much could be the one who is in need, putting yourself in their shoes, so to speak.
"There, but for the grace of God, go I" is a very good quote for such an occasion.
Thanks for the response. My words were not meant to convey that charity never existed. Of course it did. My aim was to show that the countenance or object of faith is often in the people we opt not to help in our daily lives. When I state that they Savior was before our eyes. It is figurative and not literal. The countenance is before our eyes in the opportunity to serve and help another person in distress.
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify.
And this is what Jesus told us, what you do to the little ones, the least, (perhaps meaning powerless), you do to me. Recognizing Jesus as he is here today is a real challenge! There is a wonderful novel, "Your Valved Voice" by Roger Pierce. I think it is on Amazon. It is about a group of people who survive nuclear war and one person's attempts to put into practice the Beatitudes. It's an interesting and fun read.
I'd rent an RV and camp it next to him so we could roast marshmallows and share stories at night.
Wow, bet he'd have some great stories, Thranax. I'll join you guys and bring some chocolate bars and graham crackers for s'mores!
Unfortunately, I think most people would dismiss Him as a homeless hippie.
I wish you would've used a different phrase rather than "pitched his tent" as my mind see's Jesus with, well....you know
not sure where you derived that greek translation, but it's not a literal translation.
What if there was real concrete scientific evidence to back up Christian Claims so they did not have to rely purely on faith. People want concrete evidence on nearly everything in their lives... except for religion.
"Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking."
Would you recognize Jesus... assuming he did come. And how would you do that?
He didn't come yet ??
I thought he was Chris Angel !
That would place Christianity firmly in the position of being the one and only correct religion amongst the many religions purported to be correct.
But, like many assumptions, if there is no evidence, the concept can be shelved as unknown until such evidence arises.
I haven't read the whole thread but I think he would gain plenty of followers just like he did then. True goodness, righteousness, love, peacefulness, the spirit of the almighty flowing all around him - who wouldn't notice that?
Q, are you kidding? That's what you see all the time in people around you? Tell me where you live so we can all come live there too.
Jesus Jesus, Where art thou bretheren of the tree so absolently breazes as it covereth thy fur of largely everest colors among the stars of everest thy far in the light of cover break of dawn the day shall come for thy witness is thy further endless dire is thy father of ever ever land for thystar is not thy mar for thy bretheren is thy father of fellow wispering wasting in thy wind for to see what is to be is thy father of what was to be, for thy father is thy star of bretheren of lost of love for thy bretheren of our lost love was sacrificed by break of star moon light, in the wish I might sight thy star moon light so bright I might, I wish the star of mars of lifr stared to the bright of star moon light i might see of what was and will be is the mighty of thy marring candle of thy heart of thy mared candle of star morning into that good night I wish I mighty thy hand so giantly thy mars of mirrors be shinning gienatly to that morning good night he is and was the Alpha or thy
Omega, beyond thy wish the highlander there can only be one.
If God loved you in all the wrong reasons how would you feel.
If Jesus were to walk through your living room would you let him eat for super and what would you serve him.
If Jesus were alive today he would be arrested by the IRS for tax evasion when he turns up out of teh blue with some wine, fish, and bread. But no receipts...
I think you showed me that before Ron. It is funny. How are you by the way?
Yeah good job! Considering you two don't know what timeout is.
Sorry, reading his comment just made me laugh, especially because the babies here just came back from being at their mom's and are being WILD. Just struck a funny bone.
surely he could afford an apartment or house even, what's up with the tent and all that pitching
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