I believe that a creator could be logical until I am proven different, however I'm not absolute, absolute would be content. There are many things that can't be defined with logic.
It would be logical to say that I was created by my parents. To believe there was a creator of them and so on could only be believed through faith.
Which is more limiting to the mind, ruling out something that can't be ruled out or belief that anything is possible, even when it defy's logic with faith?
we are creators.i dont get why the concept is so disputed.
Just because we create doesn't answer who created all without faith.
The concience mind parrels the absolute. If the absolute truth was hidden in justice would we particulars or partishionars among brotherly followers of faith to say we ridden beyond self afliction, is the horror of abslolute power of mind over matter, beyond the chrisis of extinction, in reality we are the tolerance of non faith of anti stimuly of the other believers mind, in correlated honor we will justify mime over mind in essence we are one religous family of bretherens of true belief.
Darrell W. Morehouse 111
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You know, I love it when people do this. Yes, this in particular, because it shows that they don't have a clue about life.
I posted this once before and now am set to do it again, because of this post above.
"MIME, conscience and subconscious" is HOW you are told to live your life, by religion.
This DEFEATS the purpose of having a consciousness. MIME is to mimic others, meaning that you do what they do, blindful of anything else.
This is NOT in the nature of mankind, in any way, shape or form.
The Human Consciousness does not and is not suppose to be oppressed to serve a higher cause. It is THE higher cause!
In my opinion the Creator cannot be anything but logical. He is, through His worthiness, the compilation of all intelligence, power and authority. His understanding exceeds ours unmeasureably. What is logic to Him may not seem logic to us. This is where faith comes in and the belief and trust that there is a Supreme Power that knows best for us. If He, with all those attributes, was not logical all creation would be mute and could not have happened.
goldenpath, logic to me would be saving your creation if you had the power among many other things. If there is/was a logical creator with the power of all, wouldn't it be logical to stop the planes from hitting the world trade center along with many other things like perfect health to all?
I see your point, however, these trials and tribulations are here for us to learn from (hopefully). It is an intricate and vital part of our personal progression.
Yes, the planes hit and horror ocurred. The victims of such scenes have met their appointed time. This is not a sad thing for they still progress and learn even as we speak (type). We have learned things from historical horrors that have added to our understanding of the world. Disease, famine and murder doesn't necessarily cut that person's progression short, but only their sojourn here in mortality. They still exist and progress as with any of us. That is the great equality. That is the sum on the other side of the equal sign. There is progress on the other side of the grave.
The same can be said of the severely infirm or those whose mental capacities make them unaccountable for reasoning and for their actions. I believe, according to their condition, that their salvation is all but assured and that part of their basic purpose in life is to gain a body and for the rest of us to learn compassion and love.
How do you know what happens when you haven't died? I have no idea what happens after death. Which is more limiting, to already think you know what happens after death or to keep ideas open that you have no idea?
I derive to these conclusions, aside from doctrine and experiences, through logic and reasoning. What would be most limiting is to not have a system of belief or a thought of "well, maybe this or that is possible". Whether right or wrong is not as important as giving oneself the liberty of hope that progress continues. I may not agree with a point of view but I would celebrate that someone has a thought in place that has a resonating hope that all progress continues - eternally. Through the logic that I, personally, have put in place I now understand the purpose of the ills of the world. But that's for me because I have placed a hope in it and have found a purpose in it. This is only in answer to your question. Thanks for the conversation.
Thank You as well. I agree with the fact that believing "nothing" happens upon death is limiting as well. An absolute belief in an afterlife through faith can be limiting as well. If there is an extremist suicide bomber who chooses faith over logic that he will go to a favored afterlife in sacrifice to his faith, his mind would be pretty limited when he blows himself up. Logic tells me that no living person knows what happens in the afterlife or if there is an afterlife for an absolute fact. If anyone already knew what happened, wouldn't that take the fun and thought from trying to figure it out?
i came from a vagina . my mothers vagina to be more specific. im her creation
Who was the beginning of all creation?
And she could create a whale if she chose to?
Or is she limited to you?
I've posted a couple of NEW Hubs yesterday. You might want to take a look.
How are you today? I am doing fine here. Been in and out all day, in the forums that is.
yes i definitely do believe that a creator can be logical. i was raised in the church. my religion is christian and god created the heavens and the earth, genesis 1:1. the verse has a vision that god created land on which we live today. i feel that every person is entitled to their own belief. furthermore,god tells the bible through vision and experience.
I don't think the bible is very logical when the creator kills when angry.
Do you kill people when you are angry?
Today. I think I was having more fun being banned. lol I certainly was more productive while banned.
Yea me too okay let's start fighting again just kidding
I'm a lover not a fighter. I'm getting too old to fight. lol
FINE I'll go pick on someone else lmao well it is good to see you back in action
Good to see you as well. Maybe I will get banned pretty quick so I can be productive again.
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