If God made an endless hell, was it included in the works which He pronounced "very good?" Gen1:31
God never made an endless hell. Didn't you ask this question once before? Anything that has a beginning has an end unless God imparts eternal (His own Life) to it. I can't explain all the details and get into the chemistry of everything but I know this is true.
Thank you, but i think this question is more for those who believe in an eternal hell. But you are right about one thing. God did not make an endless hell, and I dont recall asking this question before.
You never actually asked this specific question before, but some of your questions are variations of the same premise. I do recognize the difference in each question
there is no eternal Hell, it contradicts God's love and character. If there was, then our faith is in vain, because we then serve a god who has been lying but HE cannot lie and He is love. (1 john 4:7-8 Numbers 23:19 and Titus 1:2
God did create an endless hell, but he did so after the original creation of the heavens and the earth, which he deemed very good. After the angelic revolt against Him he cast the rebels out of heaven and created the endless hell, which he only ever intended for Satan and his legion. God never intended mankind to go to this endless hell, only Satan. I believe the situation that makes hell so "hellish" is the seperation of its occupants from God and his grace.
Where do you find this theology in the OT?
I think you alluding to Jude 1:6- "And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day" Am I right?
Are they aware that Jesus is not the Prince of Peace? He did NOT come to bring Peace. Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself and Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That is all of the law.
Just because we are no longer under the law who are in Christ does not mean His laws no longer exist. What do you think God is going to judge the rest of the world with come judgement day?
Of course God will judge... based on His laws, what else? Not those who are in Christ but the rest of the world. What is sin? The transgression of the Law.
The point stands; nothing in Johnryland's post can be found in the Hebrew scriptures. This should cause people's alarm bells to start ringing.
@j. Not one jot or stroke of the pen will be removed from the law.
There is no such foundation in bible for an eternal hell. yes, God DID set aside a TIME and PLACE for satan and his angels to be destroyed but they are not there now. Read Revelation chapter 20.
I'd recommend putting that book down for five minutes and reading On Christian Doctrine by St. Augustine. It's safe territory since he pretty much edited and put together the New Testament of the Bible we accept today anyway.
I am quit aware that it was Augustine of Hippo who created the hell doctrine.
I don't think Augustine represents safe territory at all. He invented the hitherto unknown doctrine of original sin which has caused much harm to the Church for centuries.
The only "Sheol" or hell that God created was the earth in which we humans are buried. He did call the ground good.
The burning lake of fire will come into existence only after the Day of Judgement and it is to destroy death, hades, the false prophet, the beast and to have Satan and his demons cast into it. It is the second death as was foretold in Genesis 2, as in ceasing to ever exist in spiritual or physical form. Only God can destroy both body and soul.
Everyone will experience a spiritual death because of the sin of man. Where did the people from the days of Noah go? Every spirit shall face either Heaven or Hell. If saved Heaven. If they do not repent, No sin will be allowed in the kingdom of Heave
Where did Noah go? Jesus hadn't been born yet.
No sin will be in heaven because the blood of the cross washed all sin away already.
If all was pronounced "very good" then Satan was also very good. Now if made very good, how could he go bad unless fundamentally flawed to begin with? If fundamentally flawed then he was not "very good".
This I think rather nicely explains things.
God di not make an endless hell; That would be contrary to His character (Exodus 34:6-7, and Micah 7:18-20 for examples). And God did not make enedless hell, because then how could he create a new earth (Revelation 21:5). In Revelation 20:9, it is written that fire came down from God and devoured them. DEVOURED meaning sinners are gone. But they do not burn forever. People read about hell in a cruel way and try to scare people with it so they'll come to God, but that actually scares them away from God. Go would be contradicting Himself if He burned people for all eternity but yet has been mercy, grace and love. Check out 2 Peter 1:20-21. Also check out 3ABN.COM and Helltruth.com. Its all biblical all the way.
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