Does a person's sexuality affect their view/s about 1. The Bible, 2. Christiani

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   days leaperposted 11 years ago

   Does a person's sexuality affect their view/s about 1.  The Bible, 2. Christianity?
   
   This Question has "Arisen" in a quite heated discussion with D.William.

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   jlparkposted 11 years ago

   I think it's the wrong way round.
   
   A person's sexuality in itself cannot affect much other than the gender or gender expression of the person/people they are attracted to.
   
   I think that it is the views of SOME of those in the religion of Christianity and their use of the Bible towards those of a different sexuality to themselves that can affect a person's views on the religion and it's holy book.
   
   As a gay woman, I have no ill feelings towards Christians, Christianity or the Bible. In fact, I read the Bible myself, whilst not being Christian, as it is an interesting read, containing lots of useful information, stories, ideas and parables to modern life. 
   
   What does affect me is the use of religion and their holy books, by people who use it only to harm others - apparently 'out of love' but harm all the same. Ignorance and use of verses out of the context they were written in, for actions of judgement and subtle hatred. 
   
   But in saying this - it is NOT Christianity, or the Bible that bothers me. I know many Christians who use their Bible, and their faith for acts of love, compassion, and peace - just as God intended. 
   
   It is just some of it's followers who use it for purposes that God most likely did not intend it for.
   
   So, I think the question is worded oddly, but I believe I have managed to answer it.

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      windygreenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      love you ... (like a sister)   

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      lone77starposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Beautiful. Love is the key.
      
      Those who use the Bible to judge others are following ego (the master of this world), rather than following God.

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   windygreenposted 11 years ago

   that depends upon the person..   
   
   first of all ... the relationship with God is a private one , ones sexuality does not affect it .
   
   however. in many cases, the Church treats homosexuals as unholy unGodly or in need of fixing .
   in these cases , sometimes the person will turn from the Church and even God and religion as a result of a churches actions or the actions of Christians.
   
   sexuality can create a wedge between a person and their views ... because for a person to accept and love the Chuch , the Church must love and respect them...
   
   very few are so hurt and rejected by the Church and Christians that they also turn from God and the Bible.
   
   I am a gay woman ... i believe in God and I read the Bible ...
   
   I do NOT however go to chuch ... I have tried many .. they all wanted to "fix me" ...
   I do not feel (and I dont think God feels) that i am in need of fixing..
   
   God made me who I am .. just as He made each one of us - different from one another..    I am perfect just as I am .

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      jlparkposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Love you too (like a sister!)

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      lone77starposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Beautifully put, but don't be too attached to the things of this world, including your identification with them.
      
      Jesus loves all his siblings... thus the rescue mission. God's children look just like Him, and He is not Homo sapiens.

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   days leaperposted 11 years ago

   Thank You Jlpark & windygreen for your comments.  I think it was dire rudeness for any-one to try to change you, or any-one else!  If it caused you concern and you had sought help that's an entirely different thing.  To be honest I don't see the church as functioning effectively at all these days; Jesus would throw a fit -I suspect!  You're right to leave them to it.  Though I do feel that for some people being faced with what they themselves aren't is somewhat unnecessary, I've said before the world is complicated enough.  Now, I feel strongly against any-one being attacked for their orientation.  (assuming animals and children are protected properly -I don't see that as orientation though, but perversion)  I suspose it's one for the forums.  And I donn't feel it is fair to shove sexuality in peoples faces either.  No matter what that is.

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      jlparkposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly Days, and whilst it is assumed that it is the LGBT community who is doing the shoving of sexuality into faces, it is not. All realms of sexuality are guilty of this on occasion, if we all stood back and looked, we'd realise this.

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      days leaperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes Jlpark.  You're right.  Ignorance is widespread.  No-one can claim a monopoly on this so called "righteousness".

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   lone77starposted 11 years ago

   Any mental or emotional "attachment" will affect one's views of things, including the Bible and Christianity.
   
   The stronger that attachment, the more unwilling one will be to see things that might conflict with that attachment.
   
   Salvation is about spiritual reawakening. If someone is too attached to this physical existence (sex, food, possessions, status, identity, etc.), they will miss the opportunity to be free of ego (which hungers for such mortal things).
   
   Let me give you a more mundane example. Say a person loves junk food. When he finds out that the junk food is killing him, he goes into denial and continues to eat the poison that's killing him. That's attachment! Western food and body chemicals are killing us. Sure they look good and taste good, but they are poison. The highest rates of cancer are in those countries that eat a Western (American / West European) diet. Beef is not carcinogenic (despite the lies we're told); but the hormones they pump into the beef are. Sunshine is not carcinogenic (contrary to the Medical-Pharma Industrial Complex); but the sunblock stewing on your skin, undergoing chemical breakdown in UV, is. Can you walk away from such things?
   
   And let's look at the insanity that's destroying America -- Corporate Party run government, spending like drunken pirates with a stolen credit card. They have the hubris to call tiny reductions in the massive increases in spending, "spending cuts." That's a laugh. And the few Congressmen who get it seem to be talking to deaf buffoons in those hallowed halls now corrupted. National debt skyrocketed under Bush, doubling in 8 years to $10 Trillion. Debt accelerated under Obama to $16.3 Trillion in 4 years. All because Congress had a "supplier" without a conscience -- the private Federal Reserve. Can you walk away from that madness? Can you stop buying from all Corporations?
   
   And 9/11 was an inside job. If you're American, can you overcome your attachment to status and identity to see the proof of this? Or are you too attached to "America, right no matter what?" Can you not see the shredded and tattered Constitution?
   
   We are attached to many things, on many levels. We have to practice letting go. We have to practice not placing such importance on worldly things. We have to decide to step away from such abominations and not cling to them, for they will kill us.
   
   Don't be "of" this world. Be a child of God who is merely "in" this world, but "of" the Heavenly Father.

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      windygreenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I didnt see you say anything about sexuality directly..but between the lines, your point of veiw is loud and clear : Homosexuality is wrong or "Not of God".You embody my point."Christians" like you create the distance between many people and God.

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   taburkettposted 11 years ago

   The simple answer to your sexuality question is "yes". 
   The individual's personal sexuality decision forces them to evaluate their willingness to accept or reject the core principles of the Bible and Christianity.  While some individuals state that a persons sexuality choices do not make the individual different, the difference is quite obvious.  Under immoral sexuality, the human race is doomed because it can never perpetuate the species because no birth can occur.  Due to this doomsday phenomena, the individuals choice of immoral sexuality is totally different from those individuals who choose wisely to perpetuate the species.  As the number of immoral individuals rise within the species, the doomsday phenomena continues to expand through encroachment of the dysfunctional species members.  The ferocious battle to justify immoral behavior is just the pinnacle of the immoral iceberg.  The underlying destruction of the species is the huge icepack that rambles under the surface.  With each new generation, the onerous phenomena grows which makes the species more at risk.  And, like an ice cube, the species will be destroyed as the heat placed upon the phenomena rises above boiling level.  Discouraging the immoral activity is the only way to perpetuate the species, thus; the only way to remove the risk is to continue to display the immoral acts as improper behavior for moral individuals.  This will require the inflicted society members to realize that their sexuality choice is just that - one borne of their own mortal mind.  These individuals must recognize that as a mortal their requirement includes perpetuating the moral society, not damaging it.  One simple way to look at this is to evaluate the distressed yards of 2 neighboring houses in a community.  If both yards are to regain their brilliant green luster, then both should be watered and tended correctly.  But, if both house owners simply water and tend one yard and not the other, the unwatered and untended yard will die. 
   Risk is the choice - moral reason is the answer.

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      windygreenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      After all that spewing of nonesense, you call homosexuals dysfunctional... YOU are dysfunctional.. If there is any justice from God or meer fate you will NEVER be allowed to perpetuate your disgusting propeganda.

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