Do you believe in Jesus?
Do you believe the stories about him and his life?
I don't believe in Jesus god or son of god; as that have never existed. Jesus son of Mary a (perfect) human beings had existed; his life account, if truthful, should be believed and those not truthful should not be believed.
Yes I do. There are more historical proofs than just the books of the Bible for those of you that argue against Him.
Where is this proof you speak of tigerbaby?
I am only arguing in favor of Jesus when I say he was not god and or son of god as Jesus himself defined his core teachings:
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God wit
I believe that if he existed he was likely akin to a civil rights leader and not an incarnated diety. I believe the stories told about him and his life are composites of other stories and myths also common at around the same time frame. The "virgin birth" exists in many cultures, as does resurrection. I believe these are symbolic and have been taken in a literal manner by many. Did he exist? possibly never say never, but I have my doubts.
hmmmm . . . (pausing to ponder) with a warm Then, if I understand, Jesus as deity is maybe acceptable and more believable as a concept than a fact?
I don't believe in a deity type God at all, so not really , but I do believe there were wise beings along the way that wanted to teach people how to live up to their potential perhaps, of course MUCH has gotten lost in translation and literalism.
People use faith based theologies to create their own ideals.
non nein no nej niet nee. Why would you like to know?
Yes I do believe in the stories recorded of Jesus they are filled with all kinds of ways to make life better. The unfortunate situation is that through all denominational and non-denominational churches we are taught the following principles of Paul. These principles of Paul are taught as though they are from Jesus. I do not believe that the stories of Paul are the same as those of Jesus. This is where conflict and questioning of the stories come in to play. Thus the stories of Paul are widely accepted as from Jesus when they are not. They have been incorporated in the lives of all in association with societies of Christianity.
1. The foremost teaching that does not agree with Jesus taken from the teachings of Paul is that All scriptures are inspired of God.
2. That women do not belong in the Church and should learn from Men namely their husbands.
3. He states in I C 14: 34 that anyone that does not believe him will be ignored.
I can go on an on about conflict between the stories of Jesus and the stories of Paul that are represented as being from Jesus when they are not.
1.The stories of Jesus show us to test all stories to find their reality and incorporate it into our lives.
2. His stories equally apply to men and women without any discrimination.
3. Jesus encourages each of us to learn from him and apply His stories in a way that will help us grow individually not by being bullied into acceptance of others.
Very interesting thoughts to ponder. Today, mostly, I see the Bible as books not 'a' book. They have connectedness as all books in essence do somehow and someway - origin of inspiration. Holy Books, any, seem less than Holy as dispute is abundant.
I tend to get lost with the word believe when used with the word 'in' specific to any person. I prefer the usage of the word 'of' more so. I do believe the stories regarding him and his lived life, even though I have reservations regarding some of the acts proclaimed.
Believe follows accept and is accompanied with trust and faith. I find comfort simply with the belief of Jesus as being a man. I do believe in God and take delight and comfort with that. I do not today accept that Jesus is 'a' God.
The word God is one that can be interpreted in many ways. It is an argument that has no end. I look at Jesus as a person that has exposed the inequities we all face in our daily lives. I accept his claim as a Prophet not God.
Yes, interpretation seems abundant with the word God. I wonder if life is not wasted on the abundant arguments and disagreements for meaning rather than simply acceptance for today 'something' will always be 'greater than' or 'before,' "Now."
I was brought up to believe in the stories of Jesus and actually enjoyed listening to them as a child but as I grew up I became more analytical and began to question the themes and writings.
Over the years I've come to the conclusion that they're a mix of mythology, ancient Hebraic stories and possibly unverifiable fact. Some of the New Testament descriptive passages of the way Jesus reacts to certain provocations and situations are fascinatingly detailed for example and could only come from actual experiences, either observed by the writer or skilfully invented.
Certain sects back then had a tradition of a messianic figure appearing in their midst - to bring about spiritual renewal and cleanse the sins of generations - so Jesus probably wasn't alone in being such a figure of importance.
It seems his life fits in historically viz a viz the Roman occupation and their cruel method of dealing with would be troublemakers. How ironic that a crude weapon of torture and death - a rough wooden cross - should later become the symbol of a major religion.
Whether the miracles were actually miracles in the sense that we understand them, is impossible to authenticate. We're talking back in the day when most working people were uneducated and superstitious. I'm not so sure turning water into wine is a fitting first miracle either!! But it would have made him very popular!
Peace,forgiveness and ultimate sacrifice for the cause are strangely conflicting, and extreme. I could never fathom out why prostitutes,sick people,tax collectors and working class people were such strong characters in the stories, but I did love the image of a camel through the eye of a needle, when it came to a rich man's chances of getting into heaven.
As for the biblical books - well, the texts are ancient yes but they've been edited and selected for continuity, various Synods over centuries deciding what to put in and what to leave out.
I can't disprove the stories of Jesus and I wouldn't want to, but I have changed my opinion of them over the years and choose not to believe in them now.
Yes, I believe in Yeshua of Nazareth. I also believe in you and everyone else on this planet. Some are more awake than others. Some are dead asleep and even think that they are their physical bodies.
There are many who misinterpret the Bible and treat their own interpretation as Truth -- both believers and atheists. Truth is not in the literal words or in the interpretations. Truth is in the spirit of scripture, and too many have stopped looking at the literal words.
I have seen dozens of miracles every bit as startling as Yeshua walking on water or Moses parting the sea, because I knew that miracles are real. Those who need proof, first, will never believe. It's like the infant who needs proof that they can walk before they will attempt walking.
Love and humility really are the answer. Only those who embrace these fully will be rescued. Ego is the blindness.
I used to believe in the stories of the bible and I used to worship 'The One and Only God', but I eventually started realizing; I prayed everyday, I thanked him for food and life, I asked for his protection, and guess what happened? Nothing. I went to church every Sunday, worked in the nursery a lot, and went to a church group every Wednesday. Nothing. I got no spiritual help, no help with grief or pain, all I got was regret. I'm not trying to offend anyone of the christen religion; I'm just sharing my experience. God can, supposedly, perform wonders but when I asked if he'd help my grandmother get better from her illness; she died. Right after that, my uncle died.
I have found something that makes sense, a least, it makes sense to me. Wicca. It's a beautiful thing and it has helped me so much through so far. You can say it's bad or I'm going to hell, but that's just what you think. So go ahead; I've heard it all before. But just know, you don't understand everything. no one does. You can say I'm going to hell, but that doesn't mean I will. You don't know for sure. You're just going by some book that was written thirty five hundred years ago. My spirit is free and strong with my new religion and I feel, all around, better. My depression has cleared, my whole life is turning around and heading upward to a successful life.
Again, this is just m experience, so don't tell me I'm "wrong" and that, "You're right" because I'll just ask, "where's your proof?" And I'm not talking about proof that may or may not have happened thousands of years ago; Because I'll just call BS.
You mad a mistake about the Bible it was written about 1700 years ago by the Roman Government not 3500 years ago. This is why no reality comes from its content.
The earliest versions of a bible were found 3500 years ago. That's what I leaned in church, contact my church if you wanna argue it, but it's what I learned.
Yes, Crystal. Much of it is recorded in history. There are some missing bits, if that's what you mean. There are also myths as is and will be in the lives of all great Teachers. His beatitudes alone are so powerful that many can benefit immensely from this alone. Many men and women of God both East and West, have spoken of seeing Him and also of taking instructions from Him.
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