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   Lee Lee 513posted 11 years ago

   "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace" Jesus
   
   I watch a TV show called "The Following" and Joe Carol is using this reference as an excuse to kill.Jesus was saying by believing in me, family's may divide and they won't agree on me because everyone see's God in their own way. What I came for was to speak the Truth, God is love and peace is the goal and peace can only come from each individual. If God wanted heartless droins, that's what he would have made but we've got freedom of thought and peace is our own responsibility. I wish people would stop twisting the Gospel. It's really so plain and simple. What do you think?
   
   
   

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   dashingscorpioposted 11 years ago

   Whatever one focuses on is what they take to heart. The bible also says:
   John 10:10
   "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."
   The beautiful thing about how vast the bible is written is it allows anyone to "cherry pick" the verses they need in order to get (their) point across.
   Even ministers, priest, and other clergy don't agree on various interpretations within the bible. This explains why there are so many (Christian) denominations! Each claims (they) are right!
   It's human nature for people to spend time with those who are in agreement with their interpretation. In the end all that matters is holding true to what you believe.
   Matthew 5:8 "Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God."

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      lone77starposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Holding true to what you believe, or merely holding onto it while you dig deeper for more Truth? Don't ever stop digging. Don't hold on to any relative truth as final Truth.

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   MizBejabbersposted 11 years ago

   Lee Lee, I don’t think anything that Jesus taught was simple at all. I’ve said it many times on HP and I’ll say it again here. His teachings were like onions. He taught in layers so people could peel off what they could digest. I think that most people stop at their layer of understanding. I think that is what is meant by “everyone sees god in their own way.” When you say that “it is really so simple”, I think you have peeled off and stopped at your layer.
   The reason I like to use the onion illustration is because after I left the church (one layer) I think I have peeled away at least two more layers in Jesus’ teachings. I hope to peel away many more before I’m finished. I still say that you have to go outside the bible to understand the bible. You can’t use the bible alone. That’s like using a word to define itself.
   Now let me clarify that I think there are many people, too numerous to guess the numbers, who do twist the gospels around. I think these people do cherry pick things out of context to teach in such a way that they can manipulate and control others. And I think this practice is one of the very evils they are preaching against.
   I don’t like it when these people try to use their limited layer to try to control me, and apparently you don’t either. I wish there were more people who would stand up to these fanatics who want to take our freedoms away in the name of THEIR god. Even the ACLU is becoming lax in this department.

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      lone77starposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Beautiful, MizBejabbers. I have peeled many layers and see no end in sight. I have found a biblical timeline compatible with those of science and the target of Noah's Flood in science. With humility and hunger, lots more to come.

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      Dave36posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Is it not possible that Christianity arose from Buddhism, & the stripping of the layers of the onion as you so rightly put it is one's self becoming enlightened?.

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      celafoeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      dave--NO it is NOT

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      MizBejabbersposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Dave, some scholars believe that Jesus spent some of the "lost years" in India studying with the Buddhists. If this is so, I think he may have gotten some of his ideas from them. I think your "onion" statement is definitely in line with mine.

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   lone77starposted 11 years ago

   God is Love, but not necessarily peace.
   
   Peace is a good thing, but it isn't the ultimate goal, especially for these human bodies.
   
   For God created us in His image and likeness and He is not Homo sapiens.
   
   If you are open to understand, then you can see that Noah's Flood was an act of Love. And it was anything but peaceful.
   
   Rod Martin, Jr.
   http://tharsishighlands.com/books/thebi … m_noah.php

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   Deborah Sextonposted 10 years ago

   This is another reason Jesus cannot be the Messiah. Regardless of what people feel Jesus meant by saying he did not come to bring peace, the true Messiah will bring peace to the world
   
   Isaiah 2:4
   4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
   
   And remember, they described their day in time, as the last days
   Hebrews 1:2
   Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

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   celafoeposted 10 years ago

   I agree with you, but the twisters " are  looking for recognition for their
   " great" but false knowledge.   The recognition of men and not of God.
   You cannot trust anything on TV to be correct

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