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You don't believe in God, because you cannot see him, can you see the WIND?

  1. LadyFiddler profile image76
    LadyFiddlerposted 3 years ago

    You don't believe in God, because you cannot see him, can you see the WIND?

    I know there are all sorts of reason and philosophy out there to deter you from believing in my GOD. Well my simple question to you is can you see the wind? If you cannot see God and that is your stance for not believing in a spirit, then explain to me your belief in there is wind blowing etc? because I have never seen the wind.

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  2. Robert the Bruce profile image60
    Robert the Bruceposted 3 years ago

    Practically speaking, the existance of God cannot be proved simply by an analogy such as this. I'm not sure that the existance of God can be either proved or disproved at all. But I'd like to comment that there are scientific ways to measure and chart the course of the wind, besides the simple fact that we can FEEL the wind.

    1. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Rob yes i agree about the feeling we all know we can feel the wind but we cannot see it. So therefore science with their ideology of charting the wind. I can prove their is a good because i FEEL HIM IN MY SOUL just as we feel the wind. He is ALIVE

    2. Robert the Bruce profile image60
      Robert the Bruceposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I understand what you are saying. However, subjective experience (I feel him in my soul) is not the same as physically feeling the wind. The wind can be verified because everyone feels it. Your feelings about God could be feeling coming from yourself

    3. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Ok Bruce! I am positive not only i feel him there, that was just one aspect of knowing that God exist but i was just relating my feeling as opposed to seeing with the wind, but feeling something and knowing there is a presence whether i see it or not

    4. Robert the Bruce profile image60
      Robert the Bruceposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for being polite, LadyF. As you can now see it all really comes down to opinion. Like I said before, I don't think God can be proven OR disproven in a concrete way. Belief in God comes down to having faith.

    5. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      No problem Rob i hope you have a bless day and thanks much for coming by i appreciate your time and responses.

    6. Kiss andTales profile image78
      Kiss andTalesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Also we can say it depends on  who he will let himself be found. Many will not see him ,because they seek something else as being important . So when people do not believe that is real to them .Because God Almighty invites. No one is forced to accept

    7. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Link you cannot physically feel him because you don't have a connection with him. And i talk to him EVERY LIVING day he walks with me and he talks with me. He has made me who i am. " pathetic is an unbeliever in God" one day u will wanna feel him....

    8. Robert the Bruce profile image60
      Robert the Bruceposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Lady F...do you happen to live in Colorado or Washington state? They have recently legalized marijuana and I'm wondering if you take a few puffs while writing on Hubpages...?   :-D

  3. Kiss andTales profile image78
    Kiss andTalesposted 3 years ago

    You can ask your self . I exist ,I walk and talk, laugh, cry, smile, I exist, out of the many that could have been born in my place I exist. Many will never be born, but I exist.
    Not by my power ,but the power of the one who organized the cell, DNA, the one who program what my eye color I will have. What hair, I would have, what skin color.
    If man can make robots or machinery or electronics many things created with 10% of our  brain capacity then what can God do with over 100's and 100's of his power .he made the sun ,the moon the stars, the waters, the land we walk. And the many variety of animals. If we  we can make a habitat for animals ,like the many zoo's for animals and Aquariums for variety of fish, why would it be hard for A greater intelligence to create our home.  Our luminaries , our water sources. It is not hard at all .

    1. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      AAAAH! Kiss and Tales i love your answer that is samething i think...... Why do they just surround themselves about not seeing God. There are many things we cannot see but we believe it's there. 4 instance i cannot see a perfume on som1 but can smell

    2. Kiss andTales profile image78
      Kiss andTalesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for this subject of discussion . You are correct. Not all things are visible to the eye ,yet like you mention fragrance lets you know it is present.
      DNA was invisible years ago . It was there all the time. Man just discovered more about it

    3. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Link my point is trying to tell ppl like u u don't hav d 6th sense u hav absolutely no sight and feelin spiritually.Men Rather DARKNESS MORE THAN LIGHT FOR THEIR DEEDS R EVIL. God speaks too many people maybe your not of his caliber. Humble ur PRIDE!

  4. peeples profile image94
    peeplesposted 3 years ago

    There is a large difference between emotional feelings and physical feelings. The wind blew a tree down in my yard. I physically felt the air on my face, I heard the tree snap, I saw the tree fall, and I had to physically move the tree the wind knocked down. Wind is blowing air, which is proven to keep me alive. Comparing wind to a God is comparing apples to watermelons. I don't believe in a god, however simply not seeing one is not my sole reason. However if I did see a god, I would believe, not worship, but believe.  If you choose to worship a being you can't prove, that is fine by me. It's none of my business what anyone believes until they start imposing their beliefs on others.

    1. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Peeples well that's true your entitled to your own opinion and own belief. However you saw the tree fell you knew it was wind because it blew you felt it. You did not see the wind no one has ever seen the wind. Thanks for coming by . Peace 2 u

    2. peeples profile image94
      peeplesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      But you physically (not emotionally) feel it. A blind person can feel wind physically even with no sight.

    3. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Yes sweetheart whether blind or with site we can never see the wind. My invisible God is always with me everyday keeping me alive physically and spiritually and emotionally. He uses physical people to prove his love etc to me, i c him tru nature also

  5. poppyr profile image95
    poppyrposted 3 years ago

    You can physically see the effects of wind.  A tornado is made mostly of wind and you can see a tornado.  Hurricanes and wind activity can be seen on monitors, etc.  We can physically feel and measure wind.
    It's not really the same to compare God to the wind.

    1. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Hey poppyr thanks for coming by wink

  6. junkseller profile image84
    junksellerposted 3 years ago

    I see the wind. Don't know what is wrong with the rest of you. I'm staring at it at this very moment. It is beautiful. Don't believe me? Well, good luck proving it.

    1. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Well junkseller then maybe your immortal lol so have us excused. Snap a picture of it for me ok smile

    2. Robert the Bruce profile image60
      Robert the Bruceposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Succinctly put, junkseller.

    3. IslandBites profile image87
      IslandBitesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      LOL

  7. M. T. Dremer profile image95
    M. T. Dremerposted 3 years ago

    We're all equipped with five senses, so we have more ways to perceive the wind than just sight. I don't think anyone would question the wind's existence when it's blowing them over. However god can be perceived with none of those senses. If he could, everyone would be a theist. And it isn't a matter of being open to him because the wind will still blow over someone who doesn't believe in it.

    However, even if we couldn't perceive the wind directly, we have ways to measure it. For example, a meteorologist in Florida could know that it's going to be windy in California because of a moving cold front he observes on his instruments. Or a scientist can observe the behavior of air particles using sophisticated machinery. So, where the human senses fail, technological senses can also perceive wind. But, god cannot be perceived with technical observations either.

    Since wind passes both the human and machine tests of existence, it's safe to conclude that it does exist. Since god passes neither the human nor the machine tests of existence, it's safe to conclude that he doesn't exist. That is the difference.

    1. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I am sorry to disappoint you Dremer but just as science can prove to you that everything evolved or exist I to can so to with my God not just only by feeling but by my six sense "My SOUL" by things he has done for me that science CANNOT,by nature etc

    2. M. T. Dremer profile image95
      M. T. Dremerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      While personal perception is the prevailing argument for god, it cannot be replicated by skeptics. Which is different than wind because wind can be verified by those who don't believe in it.

    3. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Well u will plain stupid not to believe there is wind when it can blow you over.I never saw God & i believe in him cuz i feel him etc .& no atheist is gonna shove their science evolution and big bang theory down my throat. Gday dreamer KEEP D

    4. lone77star profile image84
      lone77starposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      MT, yours is an argument to ignorance type logical fallacy about God. The universe exists, therefore He IS. God passes the reality test. He's the source of all that we see.

    5. Link10103 profile image76
      Link10103posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Lone, I really dont think you are one to speak of ignorance at all. I am going to humor you for a second. Sure, the existence of the universe is proof of god, but how is it proof of YOUR god and not the other million religion's gods that came before?

  8. Melissa Noon profile image78
    Melissa Noonposted 3 years ago

    With the right chemicals involved you can see the wind. It is actually a cool experiment. Religion is very much a part of society but remember you need all types of people to make a society a solid society. If everybody was religious and under the same religion than wouldn't life be lacking. What makes life interesting is meeting people with different views on the world. I would not want to live in a world where everybody was a atheist like myself because religious brings something to society that Atheism can't and the same for religion. Thanks to science, the world is a great place that is still involving and if they didn't exist we wouldn't have the advanced medicine, travel vehicles, and more push for rights. So instead of trying to put hate to people who do not believe in God be grateful they exist.

    1. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Melissa thanks much for your comment but where did you gather the hat notion from in my question? I mentioned nowhere that I hate atheist etc. Its a question I ASKED!

    2. Melissa Noon profile image78
      Melissa Noonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      it is true. I apologize.  I didn't mean to say that I thought you hated atheist.

    3. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Melissa thanks again for coming back to my question. I do not hate atheist my prayer is that someday they see the light and there are many atheist that God showed himself to sometimes on their death beds etc.  Nor does God hate them  or u smile

  9. lone77star profile image84
    lone77starposted 3 years ago

    Some people have 5 senses. Some have 6.

    The start of spirituality comes with a small, glimmering spark of the 6th sense -- a feeling in some unknown "direction" (or non-direction).

    The blind cannot see color. The non-spiritual cannot see spirit. It's their limitation -- their immaturity as spiritual beings. But like any child, we need to love them despite their tantrums.

    1. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Hi lone77star thanks for your comment i appreciate it thanks much. Its true what u have said.

  10. Link10103 profile image76
    Link10103posted 3 years ago

    ...are you serious? That is your example? Just because I cant physically see the wind (although I can clearly see the effects the wind has on trees, grass, skyscrapers etc), means I shouldnt think wind exists?
    What type of shrooms were you taking when you thought up that comparison? Thats like saying humans dont exist to a blind person just because he cannot see them regardless of the fact that he can not only hear them but touch them as well. I can physically feel the wind, I can generate it if I flap my hands fast enough or use a plate. So not only can I feel wind but I can make it as well, so obviously it exists.

    God on the other hand has not been proven in the slightest. One cannot see god, one cannot speak to god, and one cannot physically feel god. So the logical conclusion is that god does not exist, but taking into account the larger than life question "Where did we come from", we cannot prove that god does not exist. The question "Does god exist" simply does not have an answer yet and may never have a definitive answer.

    To say that god obviously exists because the universe does is damn near mental when again, you cannot see, feel, or hear god in any instance that does not involve a mass delusional state or the most hard core drugs you can find.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image78
      Kiss andTalesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Your experience is not like everyone else's, in your life and situation what you have experience on the subject may be true. But you can not say what another's experience may be. There was a time DNA did not exist .and today it has great meaning.

    2. Link10103 profile image76
      Link10103posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      DNA has always existed...we were just not able to unravel its mysteries until the past few decades/centuries

    3. Kiss andTales profile image78
      Kiss andTalesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      That is true . That is what I was trying to give example of man discoveries are slow in advancement . But that did not mean what DNA was and what it tells us about the human body never existed because we did not know of it details. And how it works.

    4. Link10103 profile image76
      Link10103posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I really do not know what point you are trying to make. I stated that the answer to the question "Does god exist" is not possible to answer at this moment in time (by anyone), if it ever will be due to lack of evidence. So what are you trying to say?

    5. Kiss andTales profile image78
      Kiss andTalesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I am trying to say some one else's experience is not the same as yours. You speak for your own experience. The point is we can not get upset with people who experience something we have not . Yet as long as we live that can change anytime.

    6. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Ok kiss and tales your right but on the other hand they cannot try to make me believe there way!

    7. Kiss andTales profile image78
      Kiss andTalesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      LF that is all I am trying to say ,it is not what people say. It is what people experience ,including your own. They can not relate to yours because they have not crossed that road yet ,and that is real to them. But it does not mean they won't.

    8. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Hey kiss and tales hope your having a bless evening. Stay bless

    9. Kiss andTales profile image78
      Kiss andTalesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks ladyfiddler  I always love the kindness and blessings anyone would like me to have. And I do receive them .that gives me happiness and gratefulness .
      Thanks you again.

    10. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Okay Kiss and Tales wink that is nice of you . Thanks again for your contribution

  11. Baby-Boomer-58 profile image86
    Baby-Boomer-58posted 3 years ago

    Why are you saying we can't see wind? Have you never seen a tornado? ...

    And why did you feature the monkey picture? Its message is that intelligence is linked to 'questioning everything you think you know'.

    So, it looks like you are saying that those who think they know their god but don't question the existence of god and their relationship etc are unintelligent. 

    Okay, well I see the logic. I can't really argue with that. It seems a bit odd though that you are encouraging us to view unquestioning believers as lacking intelligence.

    Seems to me that churches encourage followers to think they know everything without questioning. So what does that tell us?

    1. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Baby boomer the ape is to represent where people like you think you came from isn't that what evolution teaches you all.Who do not believe in God. So i think you so can relate well to your existence.Unlike me who know where i came from.Have me EXCUSE

    2. Baby-Boomer-58 profile image86
      Baby-Boomer-58posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Your answer makes no sense, and you haven't answered my questions. I'll watch for your next reply. Thank you.

    3. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I think it will make more sense if you get on the train of unbelief and get going to another destination. I am having a splendid sunday and choose not to entertain your type today. Try back tomorrow i may have room in the inn. U NEED LIGHT...#urlost

    4. Link10103 profile image76
      Link10103posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      As far as I have seen, it was never said that Boomer lack a belief, so why are you assuming that Lady? Legitimate questions were asked and you ignored them. What a true saint.

    5. Robert the Bruce profile image60
      Robert the Bruceposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Link, it seems that is the way religions handle difficult questions (and there are a lot of them)---by ignoring them. They seldom address a hard question head on. Changing the subject is the name of the game.

    6. LadyFiddler profile image76
      LadyFiddlerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Rob and link i not afraid to answer any questions nor am i afraid of any of u God haters or opposers. But when fools are set in their ways u have to leave them to wallow in their hog wash. Nothing u say can change them ....perhaps when death comes...

    7. Link10103 profile image76
      Link10103posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Again, Boomer never stated a non belief. And you say you are not afraid to answer questions, but when asked questions you deflect and say its better to remain ignorant.
      Your sainthood is blinding.

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