Why the TRINITY,does it means GOD is not fit or strong enough to work alone??

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   Divine S Hameseposted 9 years ago

   Why the TRINITY,does it means GOD is not  fit or strong enough to work alone??
   
   The Heavenly Trinity....God the FATHER,SON and HOLY SPIRIT,The bible says God is all knowing God He dwells on Heaven above...For Him to work even more miraculously He has to use Man,does that limit God to work alone?...Why does He need Holy spirit to work with Him,Why does He need the SON  to work with Him...Somebody had to tell the Truth here...???
   
   

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   PlanksandNailsposted 9 years ago

   Christ himself dwells in believers. God the Father dwells in believers too. Jesus promised that the Father and the Son would come to make their home in us. This is because believers have the Holy Spirit in them. The Scriptures testify that believers only have ONE Spirit in them, the Holy Spirit of the Living God. In this way the Father and the Son are in them because the Father and the risen Son are that ONE Spirit. But in the doctrine of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit is most definitely NOT the Son and the Holy Spirit is most definitely NOT the Father. How then could the Father and Son be abiding in anyone who denies that the Father and Son are that one Spirit? But this is the case in the doctrine of the Trinity since the Holy Spirit is NOT the Father and the Holy Spirit is NOT the Son. In the doctrine of the Trinity, the only possible way that the Father and the Son could possibly be in believers is for the Father and the Son to be separate spirits since neither the Father or the Son is the Holy Spirit. Hence, those that worship the Trinity must either confess he has three Spirits in him, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, or he must confess that only one Spirit is in him who is not the Father and not the Son and thus he must deny that the Father of the Son is in him since that one Spirit is NOT the Father or the Son.
   
   The Scriptures testify that we only have ONE Spirit in us, the Holy Spirit.
   
   Those who adhere to the Beast religion must therefore deny that Christ is in him since the Holy Spirit is not Christ and Christ is not the Holy Spirit in his doctrine. This is the Spirit of the Antichrist which denies the Father and the Son.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      And that ONE Spirit's Name is JESUS during the dispensation in which we currently live - under The New Covenant - Grace and Truth!

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      PlanksandNailsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      But while on earth we can be in Christ and the Father, and Christ and the Father can be in us, to the point that we have the mind of Christ and are one with both.

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      connorjposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      PlanksandNails nails it!

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      P&N"  Pls explain "with both?" There is "One LORD, one faith, and one baptism!"   Who are these both?

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      PlanksandNailsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I don't ascribe to either the Trinity, or the  modalist/ oneness doctrines that believes Jesus is God, He is the Son of God in one spirit with his Father. Through Jesus we can also become sons of God in one spirit with them too. (John 17:11)

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      P&N: Rev 22: "I am ALPHA & OMEGA, the BEGINNING & the END, the FIRST & the LAST." Writing in red in scripture so Jesus speaking!  Then Where is God if ALPHA,OMEGA,FIRST,LAST,BEGINNING & END?  Study & forget "tradition!"

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   connorjposted 9 years ago

   
   
   The Father, the Son, and the Spirit are three divine persons who are one divine being (God). They are One; yet on a higher plain or dimension if you will. Perhaps if you think of us as 1 dimension and God as 3 dimensional it will help you understand?
   The Trinity from Latin trinitas "triad", from trinus "threefold" defines God as three consubstantial persons, expressions, or hypostases, namely the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit; one God in three persons. The three persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature".

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      connorjposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      God's nature is 3-fold. I believe you will find an excellent answer to this in C. S.  Lewis' Mere Christianity...

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      PlanksandNailsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      And the scribe said to him, “You are right, Teacher. You have truly said that he is one, and there is NO OTHER besides HIM. - Mark 12:32. No three forms here, just ONE. Jesus obeyed the Shema by worshiping and recognizing the Father as the only God.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The trinity is man-made doctrine!  God is a Spirit who formed himself into man to come so we could relate! He operated n other roles too that they didn't mention! He operates simultaneously if He wants! Don't let religion confuse u for He is I AM!

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   Divine S Hameseposted 9 years ago

   Connorj...my man thanks for a good an plain illustration,really the3 doesn't copy from each other but from God...It seems like the three they really need each other to complete the job given........My Question has not yet Answered,When are goin to answer my Q??...Why God need the three to finish His work??

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      connorjposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Try reading C. S. Lewis' Mere Christianity for an excellent and thorough explanation of the Trinity...

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      My God!  C.S. Lewis is mere man, not scripture!

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   Deborah Sextonposted 9 years ago

   No, it means that man creates his own doctrines, there is not a trinity with God....there is none beside Him. The Holy Spirit is the sacred power of God (In Hebrew) and not a person, and Yahshua (Jesus) was God's messenger, not God himself

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Deb: How do you explain John 1:1;14, Heb 1:8;10, Col 1:16-17, Eph 3:9 if Jesus is not God?

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      Deborah Sextonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You are misunderstanding what it says, but there's no room to explain it here. ALSO the New Testament is not inspired of God. Worship of a Trinity is Idolatry

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Deb: Please explain? ALL Word (Scripture) is inspired by God whose name is JESUS!  I agree that worship of "Trinity" idolatry!  In that you have spoken truth!

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      Deborah Sextonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      At the time 2 Timothy 3:16 was written,  the New Testament didn't exist, only the Jewish bible existed at that time..The Jewish bible is, but the NT is not inspired by God

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You said "NT is not inspired by God."  Jer 31:33 do you believe God said that thru the prophet Jer?

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      Deborah Sextonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I sure do, it's from the Jewish bible, but those events, and promises in Jeremiah 31  haven't happened yet. That is when the Jewish Messiah comes and the promises are to the Jewish, and those who comes into the family of Jewish people New Covenant

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      Divine S Hameseposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Deb...all scripture in the bible are inspired by God...There couldn't be existence without God.....@ Norine well said thanks there..!

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      Deborah Sextonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      What does the fact that there is no existence without God, have to do with the NT being inspired or not?  Inspired words don't have contradictions, & the NT has 194

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Deb:  You speak as though the Spirit of God doesn't exist today!  You don't believe that "your sons & daughters will prophesy?"  Yes,  there maybe 194 errors in the NT, but the Holy Spirit will reveal - "ALL" such as Matt 28:19 & I Jn 5:7-8 &

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       Deborah Sextonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Once the last prophets Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi  died, the prophetic spirit ceased The power of God (Shekinah) exists but the time when the sons & daughters will prophesy is not here yet, that's later There are no prophets today

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Deb:  Give Scriptures "where there are no prophets today?"

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   Norine Williamsposted 9 years ago

   Divine:  I'll tell you the truth!  God is "I AM!"  He does what He wants to do!  He lowered Himself by coming into the world as a Man so we could "relate!"  In the Old Testament, He operated as a Spirit!  In the New Testament, He operated as a Man so we could understand.  His Spirit entered Mary and she conceived a Child - Jesus!  Jesus is God and He could have been born and immediately began teaching the Word of God, but "man" would not have been to accept that or relate to it, so he played the "role" of man so we could understand!  Just as most Christians cannot relate to God being more than "The Trinity" it would have blown their minds as it does Christians today to think that God operates in more than three Roles simultaneously if He desires!  Remember, He said "Before Abraham was, I Am!" (John 8:58)  How could this be if Jesus was not God? 
   
   The word "Trinity" is found no where in Scripture!  Man-made doctrine has changed Scriptures (Research Matt 28:19 & I John 5:7-8) to justify the "Trinity" and baptizing in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, but The Holy Spirit will reveal ALL truth!
   
   Acts 1:9 tells of Jesus' ascension, and in Verse 4 of the same Chapter, Jesus commanded (His last commandment to the apostles) "not to depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father (operating simultaneously), which, saith he, ye have heard from me."  We heard from Him in John 14:26! 
   
   Acts is where the "first church" under the New Covenant was established! After that the apostles only baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus!  However, man-made doctrine would have you believe baptism should be done according to Matt 28:19 which they have changed!  Have you ever seen "ANYONE" baptizing according to Matt 28:19 in Scripture?  If Jesus commanded them to do so, why did the Apostles disobey?
   
   Fact is, God is so Strong, that He can be "ALL" things simultaneously if He desires! He loved us so much that He lowered Himself,came into the world, gave us an example of how we should live, fulfilled the law, and sent us the Holy Spirit to lead and guide us into all truth so that we would have a right to the tree of life!
   
   Really, do research on Matt 28:19 and I John 5:7-8!  Religion or man-made doctrine changed these scriptures to justify "their" doctrine and not the Doctrine of Jesus Christ!  And what is really sad, the world or Religion feel for it!  I guess they didn't read II Timothy 2:15!

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Divine - Jesus uses whoever (even you and I) or whatever to do what He desires!  He is "I AM!"

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      Deborah Sextonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      That doctrine is ridiculous, and worship of a triune God is idolatry. God is one God, and he's not divided. The whole entire concept is Sci Fi material

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You can call it Sci-Fi but I call it the Spirit of God!  The Spirit of God is "I AM" which means He can be in different Roles simultaneously if He desires.  Read John 4:24 and do so!  He's in all of us simultaneously if you believe!

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