Is it wrong to pray to the Virgin Mary?
Jesus says that we are to pray to The Father after being asked how to pray, so is it wrong to pray to the mother of Christ?
I think you have answered your own question. If you will remember when Christ was prophesying he was told his family was there to see him. He turned them away; for his family was deity.
No , He said His family Are those that believe in HIM, NOT NECESSARILY BLOOD RELATIVES.
I have to agree celafoe has finally gotten one right by my accounts Confessed and accepted the gift of GOD's Grace. But at this point in Time none had so JFis... is correct also Point in Time Time is a concoction of Satan Causes Confusion by design.
As a former member of the Catholic church it was quite commonplace for people to appeal to or pray to Mary. One of the things I thought that faith had right was to not completely obliterate any references to females having importance. Other religions throughout the world for example have both God and Goddess - masculine and feminine principles.
As to it being "wrong" I suppose it depends widely on which faith you follow. Everyone believes their particular faith to be "right" so - if it's part of your faith, then you will and if it isn't, then you won't.
I can't speak for other religions, but in the Catholic church we do not pray to the BVM...We ask her to intercede and pray for us through Jesus Christ...The "Hail Mary" articulates that intercession...
I thought that in Christianity that the Holy Spirit interceded for man kind?
HE DOES, she is speaking catholic cult doctrine not Christiaity. Their doctrine declares mary to be co -redeemer, scripture declares Christ ALONE in the door to redemption. And there are 100's more false doctrine in their doctrines
Yes, TW, Grace intercedes for us all. It is synonymous with compassion, and is not a scriptural thing, though mentioned in them. It comes directly from the Absolute Source or its Channels. Yes, Christ was one of them.
Mantita -that kind of unscriptural discussion does not belong in the bible,Christianity and Jesus discussion. It is an abomination to True Christianity as it defies the scriptures
Whom is the Holy Spirit where is He Located? Within your Heart Every 1 of US who has Confessed accepted the Gift of Grace Posses the HOLY Spirit within In this way Spirit is Greater Than the Christ who came in a Human Body Intercession is Obsolete
Sin - confessing does not do it it takes REAL REPENTANCE, without which NO ONE is born again. A person who has confessed and accepted is not born again unless he also has truly REPENTED ALSO. To say otherwise is an unscriptural falsehood
I like your argument, Sinbad, but intercession is not obsolete. Many of our Saints still testify to intervention, as I call it. Christ is ever alive, but yes, even He admits that all comes from the Father within. Still, He remains a Channel. Peace.
Obsolete was a poor choice of wording it is unnecessary is what I meant Payer Today should Go directly Unto the Lord Our GOD through HIS avatar The Christ Jesus who is No longer Human but return to His Original State scared by the Action of Salvation
We can all chose scriptures. The Christ also spoke of Faith. There is enough testimonies from many to say that the virgin Mary helped them.
Frankly, if the faith is strong enough and the person is like a child in love and humility, then this encourages receptivity and love of God and the impossible happens.
The great Saint Ramakrisha was not happy to unite with God in only one tradition. He is known for his integral approach of practising his love for God in all the major faiths and coming to the same conclusion. In Love and Light.
If it does not meet the bible test it is not of God.... your opinions and beliefs outside of scripture are not Christian, they are a mixture and scripture says not to listen to them.
The testing of a thing needs be tested by the qualified N certified how does one rate this testing your proclaiming? by experience cause and effect you shall Know them by their fruits answered Pray is it not a Proof? Does Intercession still work Yes
You as a Christian or just as a Human being have the right to speak to all! Prayer is only speech given towards those of the Spiritually World. As a Free Willed Being that Knows the Truth If your believe Its the Truth as a Christian does Chooses to speak to whomever they believe has GOD's ear Be it the Holy Mother or a Loved One Past. Or some other Saint. People pray even to Satan many of them do so unknowingly.
People GOD is not a tyrant seeking your Obedience at the risk of a reprisal if you talk to some one other then HIM All of GOD's creation Speak to HIM directly or indirectly. I have always been taught to go to the Top Dog and It has often gotten me in trouble in this world for doing so. But Jumping the Chain of Command is No longer an Issue as the Vail has been rent.
Tore down from the rods that supported pass intercessions. From Saints Preachers Ministers Teachers Which Doctors or the Holy Mother ETC.
GOD the Father has Made HIMSELF available to Hear your Prayers in Fact He Save them all and bottles them Up to prove It on the Day of Your Judgment. They are All recorded in Both BOOKs.
You are Free to Ask of the Spiritual World or to Pray to them But when that Prayer is for Help and Salvation go unto the Source that is the deciding Factor! For Only GOD's will be Done in Heaven! For It is Correct and Just Always.
The Lords Prayer is not a copy and Paste Pray but a template for to use as a guide. You Must make the Prayer your own always make It your own speak to Our Father as a friend and as a provider of information as one who Helps solves your troubles.
Remember your troubles will never be more than you are capable of handling. Remember they are not uncommon troubles. Some one has the answer here on earth for your troubles. Seek and you shall find. Knock and the door will be opened.
Miracles happen every day for troubles that the world can not fix or answer. Our Father is a Loving Father who has been misrepresented by a fallen son a vengeful Liar and a Murder a thief and a destroyer! Yes Virgina the Devil is very very real.
You have free will Prayers directed to GOD for His Ear will be Brought to His attention as soon as they are Spoken within the Prayee's Heart and mind to whomever the Pray is directed at. He Is all Knowing for this very reason alone. HIS will Is Done in Heaven Always Has been always will be.
We Know for a specific period of Time Here on Earth that this is not the Case! But It will be made right when the Lesson is done.
Your entire first paragraph is CONTRARY TO SCRIPTURE AND NEGATES ANYTHING YOU SAY BEYOND IT TO A REAL CHRISTIAN.
The average Real Christian Knows Nothing but rederick vomited up by others taught to vomit up GOD's word How So please enlighten me celafoe Do you not posse free will ? Does Not GOD Hear every word in prayer or other wise Are there Not 2 claiming
Sin - what a ridiculous answer to try to justify fasle doctrine. Paul made it clear that any doctrine outside of scripture should be refuted as it is false and misleads. As you are doing,
How so Facts are Facts A Christian Not willing to accept them is a Zombie cult member. I would every Christian Seek Salvation with Fear and Trembling 4 the dribble being taught today! I am A NONDom Because of the Zombies They infect all Denominations
Sin - well at leasr we agree on the garbage that is being presented as "Christian" most places today, and esp on here.
The Garbage only enforces my Belief that we will see the Great TRIB soon! GOD's elect will Can't say any hoping to Fly away Will though I not sure what may happen to those poor souls Satan is so tricky so subtle if given enough TIME could Fool ELCT
YES IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. Scripture shows us the pattern JESUS gave us to follow and it is "Our Father who art in heaven. WE PRAY TO GOD THROUGH CHRIST who scripture makes clear is THE ONLY WAY TO REDEMPTION. Catholic church doctrine claims mary to be "co -redeemer with Christ which totally violates scripture, along with literally hundreds of other "catholic church doctrines" that are in direct opposition to scripture. The catholic church pope usurps the place of Christ and is not of God. In the new testament church of Jesus Christ there are no separation of clergy /laity, ALL ARE EQUAL BEFORE GOD AND scripture tells us "the head of man is Christ" We do not need any man over us according to the doctrine of the Kingdom of God. Every man stands before God on his own. (IF he is truly a scripture and Holy Spirit led Christian);
If you use this pattern Verbatim you could be Prayer to Satan who at this Time is in Heaven also. Remember People the Devil has a link to this world and destroys it with subtleness The Our Father Prayer Prayed Verbatim is a chant to an eternal GOD
Sinbad - Satan roams the earth. And has access to heaven because his work is not done, he has not been cast out yet. No Christian would be praying to satan by following Christ example. You are espousing mixed religious doctrines not Christianity
Get the behind me Satan he is in Heaven he is no yet returned we would Know instantly when he is he is held by Micheal behind the throne so yes Prays done Incorrectly are claimed by him tis why GOD bottles them. once necessary intercession was Nlongr
Sin - scripture proof please. Intercession, its a matter of semantics, the intercession by any other than Christ is error but without His blood we would have no access to God.
Who Prays to GOD? every Pray is Not a Concussions act The Blood has spilled upon all Whoever calleth Upon the Name of CHRIST Jesus shall be Saved! The Vail has been Rent! If asking For Intercess. Ones prayer to GOD Once the Priest did this No longer
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Matthew 23:9
TW it is Jesus Who said they R of their Father the Devil who is Behind GODs Throne In Heaven Today N has been since order there by Christ Jesus 2 Fathers R there 4 in Heaven which R U Praying 2 when reciting the Lords Prayer If U make no distinction
Which God or GOD Satan is the God of this Our world N GOD is the GOD of All the World Which include R world Most R confused when they know not 2 make this distinction GOD or God whom is accepting Ur Payers? We R At war N have bee since Time begun ...
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