Does the Qur'an, openly or 'between the lines', incite violence from it's follow

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   kuttingxedgeposted 9 years ago

   Does the Qur'an, openly or 'between the lines', incite violence from it's followers?
   
   If interpretation is going to be your answer, then I ask how do groups with no connections to each other, on different continents, receive the same message of violence?

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   willrodgersposted 9 years ago

   www.amazon.com/grand deception
   
   Purchase this DVD and it will outline from the Quran verse by verse the justification Jihadist Shite Muslims use for the brutal massacre that is going on worldwide.  It also tells of how deeply the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the US. They are here and deeply entrenched in many of our most basic institutions.

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      kuttingxedgeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I won't purchase the DVD but it is an interesting standpoint. I think I already believe that Muslims are deeply entrenched in our institutions and I'm okay with that, after all this is America. Having radicals in positions of power is something else.

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      willrodgersposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So Kutting edge you want quotes, and you \refuse to view the facts about Islam and ISIS, and you are OK with Muslims infiltrating America and turning our law, our culture and our beliefs against us.  OK, so you are MB in disguise; you want Koran quot

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      arksysposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      watch "the Newburgh sting" and others and you will see the people are interested in only money. They would have done nothing if they had not been targets of the FBI. Try to understand both sides of the story without bias.

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      willrodgersposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      the Muslim Brotherhood has gained some significant ground like a sucker punch.  But beware Islam America is awakening to your deception. We will not be changed to a Muslim nation under Imam;s and Sharia Law.  It will not happen.We know your" taqiyya"

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      arksysposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      we hardly have the sharia law in place here in Pakistan so you shouldn't be too worried that it will take over america in the next 200 years... its not going to happen.

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   Frank Menchiseposted 9 years ago

   This is a very good question, especially now that another innocent person has been savagely killed. We really should ask ourselves whether these Islamic extremist have gone crazy, or whether it is their religion that  pushes them to behave like that.
   Now, because I am interested about religions I have read some of the Qur'an, but it is a very hard book to understand and follow, if we compare it to our Bible; so even when we find a good English translation of the Koran it is hard, because it is written in a way that only the Arabic speakers will understand. But for what I have been able to understand, there are far too many times that God Allah says that they could kill people in certain circumstances. So I suppose one could say that the Koran religious book could incites violence.
   This is just my view, so I would like to see what the others have to say, in the hope that some of us could come up with a suggestion, about how we could make these violent people understand that what they are doing is completely wrong, because what they are doing hurts everybody, and this hurting others is going to hurt them too one day.

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      arksysposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I would suggest you read the English version translated by Mufti Taqi Usmani. he is a scholar who is alive today, and has written it in a language we can easily understand.
      
      Quranexplorer.com > Quran > select Taqi Usmani from the translation li

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      willrodgersposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      9. Koran[K] 48:29 – “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the unbelievers, and merciful among themselves +  K 5:33;K 9:33; K 9 5; K 4:24; K 5:29; K 9:11; K 47:65; K 2: 106 each speaks of death and dismemberment

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      arksysposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Make sure you check which prophets story you are reading about when you read them. Taking single sentences will definitely sound violent as I mentioned before, there was violence in history therefore you will find it in the stories.

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      willrodgersposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Arksys:  I do not miss the point of deliberate Deception.  The MB wants us to miss the point and be deluded by their misleading agenda CAIR founder Omar Almad says" American Media is lazy and gullible, take advantage of that."..America will be Muslim

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      arksysposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Our prophet was a humanitarian without any prejudice toward race or religion, yet the actions of the people you describe is the complete opposite. It sure is a shame.

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   arksysposted 9 years ago

   The Quran has stories of prophets like Moses, Jesus Yousuf, Solomon and many others. Yes there is violence in their stories but NO the Quran does not teach or preach violence.
   
   Take your thoughts back to the 1990's for a moment. Muslims were not dangerous or violent at that time. Hollywood even made a movie (Rambo 2) which was dedicated to " the brave fighters of Taliban". The Taliban helped USA in the fight against Russia.
   
   Then 9/11 happened and then blame goes to muslims. So USA starts bombing Afghanistan / Taliban. Then pakistan to find / kill ONE man who they managed to find 10 years later.
   
   After being bombed for 10 years with over 200,000 families affected you have angry fathers who lost their child. You have angry children who lost their parents. They KNOW that America bombed them and will find every opportunity to fight back.
   Then America entered Iraq and the casualties list grew to over 2.5 million. Then they wanted to enter Iran but were denied. Then Saudi but were threatened by China and Russia so they stepped back.
   It might sound like I'm only speaking against Americans but I can assure you Muslims are no Angels either. The Sunni and shia have their own fights which are funded by countries like Saudi and Iran and bombs go off in Quetta Pakistan killing innocent people once again.
   There is an ongoing quest to shatter the name of Islam and create a divide. The exact reason of the inner divide is probably a "personal" hate. But America enters countries using these civil wars and makes sure there are oil reserves in place for them.
   There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world today. The violence you are shown are done by groups which include the people initially bombed by America. people are used as pawns here. I remember meeting a group of journalists from Quetta who had been threatened that if they write openly they will be killed. They told me people carry out suicide attacks because they were paid $30 and a promise to look after their family. But the attack is obviously shown as a terrorist action etc. it's a lot more complicated than that and certainly is not an instruction they are carrying out from the Quran.

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      kuttingxedgeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      This is a great answer. I know that killing is a part of the Qur'an's instructions for those that turn away from the 'truth', but it seems that modern Muslims choose to interpret that as an antiquated directive while the extremists take it literally.

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      arksysposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Its a controversial topic among scholars. that means its not written as clearly as "forbidden for you are carrion, blood and pork unless you have no other means". that is straightforward.
      If Allah wanted them dead He would have said it in the Quran

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      willrodgersposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The documentary of the FBI investigating Muslim Terrorists NYis just that.  If you espouse Terrorism or associate with Terrorists  or take part in MB which is a designated Terrorist group then you will be a target. proud someone is watching you guys

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      arksysposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I would be proud if it was watching too. It's more like framing. Offer an almost homeless guy $250,000 and he will do anything. You missed the whole point in the documentary sir.

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      kuttingxedgeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Willrodgers, I'm an Irish kid from Florida, not exactly MB material. I'm Christian, but lets not pretend that America is anymore. We took God out of our schools, our government and our public places- We aren't headed towards Islam- to hell sadly..

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