What is Moral Code or Code of Conduct to Anyone?

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   Lady Guinevereposted 9 years ago

   What is Moral Code or Code of Conduct to Anyone?
   
   I have notied many people on here say or imply that the only ones who have an moral code or code of conduct are those who are in church.  They constantly put down anyone who do not go to church or is in any denomination that they think the should be a part of.  How do people learn civilized existence with others and why such a dividion?  Who tells you these things and how doe one learn them?

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   lisavanvorstposted 9 years ago

   In my opinion it is how one acts and behaves in society. Morals are each individuals own beliefs and how the behavior they exhibit. This is how I perceive the meaning of Moral Code. Now Code of Conduct reminds of the military and what they expect of our soldiers.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You are correct in that Society dictates the moral compass that all need to adhere too, not releigion.

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      Joseph O Polancoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So if some society were to, say, legalize Pedophilia and allowed these to marry their young lovers, would Pedophilia suddenly become moral behavior?

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      JOP, is that something that you are looking forward to? You seem to refer to it a lot!

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      Lady Guinevereposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      JOP, who decides what society wants?

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Apparently, pedophilia is biblically moral. Look how many priests engage in this behavior. And the abrahamic religions encourage men to marry very young women. Mohamed married an 8 year old. Christian men seem to prefer young girls too.

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      Joseph O Polancoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      @Austin
      
      How very benighted of you to make such a ludicrous claim. Pro Tip: Actually read the Bible in full before commenting on it.
      
      @Guin
      
      That's like asking how many trees make a forest. Society merely reflects the attitude of its constituents.

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   Holly Jenkinsposted 9 years ago

   Morality can and does exist outside of religion much like immorality can exist within religion. The moral code for a civilized existence is actually quite simple: The Golden Rule -- Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Moral codes are usually established by society and reinforced by parents, education, religion, etc.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your answer.  I do agree with you.  It is not a religious thing.

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      U r right. Religion is not the sole provider of moral codes because whether religion existed or not, we all still have to co-exist on this big ball called Earth!

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      Joseph O Polancoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Co-exist you say? Last time I checked, war, violence, intolerance and prejudice still continue to plague humanity the world over ...

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   Austinstarposted 9 years ago

   Well since so many clergy are frequently caught with their pants down, so to speak. how does anyone trust religion to give them their moral code? Sure most churches are not out to molest their children, spread the AIDS virus amongst their parishioners, steal money from poor people, beat their children into submission, or any other number of immoral acts, but why do we see this happen at all from religious people?
   Nope, the moral code of conduct comes from the law of the land and its culture.
   It used to be legal and culturally OK to have slaves, marry pre-pubescent girls, and burn homosexuals/witches/sassy children/ and take your pick of "sins" that the religious stoned people for.
   People with real morals woke up and figured out that only the things that make us stronger are the morally right things to do.
   Why religionists want to keep their old horrendous "moral" code is beyond me. It didn't work for the human race then, and it doesn't work now. Grow up, people!

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So many? Although I don't think ANY conduct like this is permissible, the reality is it is a fraction of clergy that have done that. U r right that we get our moral code from the land and the culture, which is predominately from religion. thnx

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Only because religion was so prominent. Religion is losing steam these days as people find that bigotry and "holier than thou" attitudes don't work anymore. It really always comes down to gold. He who has the gold, makes the rules!

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Religion is not losing steam! lol How in the world did u get that? There is a new church popping up on every corner. I have lived n a lot of different regions and mass #'s r up. The % of Christians is the same as it was 100 yrs ago. Islam is higher

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Biz, we probably read different sources and they are slanted toward our own ways of thinking (else why would we read them?). We shall have to agree to disagree on whether religion is steady, growing, or waning.

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Regardless, it's not going anywhere soon

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Nope, the comment is still on this one. This was the first place he pasted it at.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Okay I deleted it again and it seems to be gone this time.

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   TheBizWhizposted 9 years ago

   I haven't seen or heard anyone that said the "only" people who have a moral code are ones who go to church. With that said, I feel that it is undeniable to a moderate person, whether atheist, agnostic, or theist the contributions religion has had on society. Only the hard-line extremists deny that. Granted, there are those who do bad in the name of religion, but humans are flawed whether they believe or not. I do not judge because I don't think it is our place.

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Of course you judge! Everyone has internal criteria with which to judge others. It's human nature. We sometimes have to instantly judge people. The ones that want to hurt us. Otherwise, we judge by what criteria is generally accepted these days.

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      U don't seem 2 have read the context of my statement. I don't judge in the way according to hard-line atheists. Yes I do have opinions, so if that is what u r implying as "judging".

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Judges decisions are call "opinions" or haven't you heard that? Are you afraid to admit you're human? Yes, opinion = judgement (doesn't matter if you're an atheist or a believer.

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Did I not say, yes I have opinions? So r u saying it is ok 2 judge? I am not sure what u r getting at.

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Ok, read all of these comments again, including your answer and maybe you'll fivure it out.

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      Holly Jenkinsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Not only is it ok to judge, it's a biological necessity for the perpetuation of a species.

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly! You  can't say you don't judge people when you do. Calling it an opinion is no excuse.

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Easy every1, just calm down and take a chill pill. I agreed w/ u. Plus that has nothing 2 do w/ the question. I mentioned it almost in passing, so please unwind your undergarments & lets try 2 move on

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   The Examiner-1posted 9 years ago

   I was born into a Christian family. I was raised going to church and reading the bible. When I became old enough to think on my own I stopped going to church - people chatted (lowly) about what they wanted and hardly listened to the pastor. I found out that the bible had various writers and copies and I wondered 'who was the original' so I stopped reading that.
   I am still Christian and I believe in God. Do I have a moral code or did I lose it because of what I did? What others think or feel about it does not bother me.

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   sallybeaposted 9 years ago

   I don't think this has anything to do with religion.  Some of the worst examples of poor moral conduct come from religious sources.   We should treat others with the same respect that we would like to receive ourselves.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      @Joseph, what in the world does that have to do with anything here?

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Debra - JOP has copied/pasted this very same response into many different places. It still doesn't make sense and I would delete it if I were you as it is rather inflammatory and meant to be so.

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      Joseph O Polancoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It proves Atheists can be just as cruel and inhuman as Antichrists.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      AS, JOP thinks that I am an atiest and the antichrist becuz I am not doing what he wants me to do or think. That in no way makes his presumtion true.  I will let it stay for 24 hours and then it is gone.

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      Austinstarposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      He copied and pasted the same paragraph twice on this page! And I have seen it several times before as well.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      AS Okay his comment is gone.

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   parrsterposted 9 years ago

   Religious or otherwise, all men possess an inherent moral compass; a conscience that either accuses or defends within them (even the Bible says this Romans 2:13-15).  However, possessing a compass is not the only prerequisite to morality. To be truly moral, one must have confidence that their compass points true, and then, by virtue of trust, let it lead them.
   As humans created in this God's image, morality is part of our heritage. We have been purposely ingrained with a sensibility toward right and wrong; a conscience that finds its innate objectivity in Gods architecture of us. It is part of us. We are morally aware due to design; not evolution, not biological advantage; not even religion. Design.
   However, as the bible says, we are also sinners. Such that, though we are morally sensitive and aware, we also make wrong choices that fall well outside the image of the God we were designed to reflect. The further we remove ourselves from God, the more awry our innate moral choices become, resembling less and less His perfect nature and will.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So what does Mathew 5: 43-48 tell us?  Jesus did also say that all the laws are in our hearts and minds.  I agree that we have the rights and wrongs and the ability to make choices from that.

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