Why Did Elijah And Moses Appear To Jesus?

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  1. PhoenixV profile image66
    PhoenixVposted 9 years ago

    Why Did Elijah And Moses Appear To Jesus?

  2. The0NatureBoy profile image58
    The0NatureBoyposted 9 years ago

    Reading Exodus 4:6-8 there are three messengers when we include Mosses. Understanding Isaiah 11:1-12, 2 are to come after Moses with the second arriving about the time Israel became a nation the second time, in 1948.  Thus, the "mountain of transfiguration" with Moses and Elijah reveals who the 3 Exodus 4 messengers are.  The voice was referring to that 3 when it said "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him" meaning man should have heard Moses, will not likely hear Yoshua but when Eleyehu comes we must hear him as Exodus indicated. 

    You will notice in Malachi 3:1 after the messenger(s) who went before him -- Yoshua called Jesus and Dr. MLK -- "the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple [NOTE: Yoshua seldom appeared in the temple but this messenger of the covenant will work out of one], even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come."  Also, Isaiah 63:1-7 reveals, as is seen in Exodus, the latter sign, as was moses, will be a mixed breed and not a pure European as Jacob's descendants represent.] 

    Notice in Matthew 12:39 the words "An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas."  Recognize "AN evil …" is suggesting it is not the generation when the words were spoken and remember "the three might and three days" suggests a minimum of 72 hours.  Comparing that to John 2:18-21 Yoshua said implying himself, he would "Destroy this temple [his body], and in three days [within parts of three days] I will raise it up." Matthew 27:46-50 it was around the ninth hour [3 pm] Friday that he first cried "my god why are you forsaking me" and later cried again as his life-force left his body.  When see the word "dawn" in Matthew 28:1 we know it is at "first light" when the girls approached the grave Sunday.  If we count the parts of the days we have about 3 hours to Friday's sunset, 12 hours Saturday evening, 12 hours Saturday morning and 12 hours Sunday evening, about 39 hours of death and 36 in the grave.  Thus, Matthew 12:39-40 is about Elijah who will have no power prior to his 72 [plus but less than 82] hours in death as Revelation 5:12 reveals. 

    In that light, Moses and Elijah's appearing on the mountain of transfiguration is a New Testament type of Exodus 4:6-8.  Remember, precepts must be upon precepts (Isaiah 28:10).

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Matt 24:46! "Doing" Acts 2:42!  NO ONE "knows" His coming! Mk 13:31-32; Matt 24:36; What makes u thk u know (against Script)!  Or did He lie? The same signs u rd my parents rd & their's! Ps 90:4; 2Pet 3:8!  Until then do Acts 2:42 or Gal 1:6-9!

    2. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      We know Elijah will come prior to the world's end, though how Jesus  said it people believes John the Baptist was he so few people realize Elijah is the last & prophet like unto Moses leading spiritual Israel through world's end sea of blood.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: What an AWESOME God we serve!  The "spirit of Elijah!" He's come & will come again but guess what the "spirit of Elijah" is? JESUS! It all boils down to JESUS ("I AM")!EVERYTHING(ONE) He wishes to accomplish His Will! Limited to Trinity? NO!

    4. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus is the pseudonym for both Yoshua & Elijah, in that sense it boils down to Jesus but we're looking for the person of Elijah to rule IN (Mic 5:2) by living as Israel, not one named Jesus to lead us into Armageddon across the red sea of blood.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: God is what He is but JESUS is Who He is (Phil 2:10).  Why look for "the "person" of Elijah to rule IN (Mic 5:2)?" when this is a Spiritual journey as w/John who had the "spirit" of Elijah? (Lk 1:17)

      Can't u sep the 2 (person v spirit?Jn 4:24!

    6. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Simply because all spiritual things will be manifested through some flesh.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli:  In that I will agree!  He uses whatever/whomever He pleases to accomplish HIS WILL!  But just because u call urself "Elijah," doesn't mean u r "the One" or have "the spirit of Elijah!"  Calling one out of name doesn't appear! Why do u thk so?

    8. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Isa 49:1 is why I am Elijah (Mal 4:5) Alfred [wise counselor] Alexander [defender of man} (Mal 4:6) Junior [the latter ] (Exo 4:8), born in 1945 (Isa 11:10-12), Spiritually in '76 and began living half in nature to "restore all things" (Mat 17:11).

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: In that I cannot not agree!  Elijah would not "contradict" His Word!  Jesus told use to remain under NC until His return. (Gal 1:6-9).  How do u justify Scripture? Are we under another cov telling us how to rec salvation? Or r we not under 1?

    10. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      God contradicted his own words by saying man should not kill then told Israel to kill all man, boys, girls, children and all animals out of Canaan, why can't he have Elijah to do it since you say I am?

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: God didn't "contradict His own Words!" He told us not to "kill," not that He wouldn't "kill!"  When "commanded" by God, not a sin, looks strange!  Why new revelation appear evil in sight of "man" but not so IF "commanded" by GOD!

      U NOT  JESUS!

    12. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Believe your lie behind your locked door of misunderstanding. I've present enough evidence for you to open it but you refuse.  It isn't your time so stay a slave to ignorance, you're a slave to it because you refuse to open the door to your heart.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: That's "precisely" what I feel about u! @least I'm giving Scripture, what JESUS said, but u claim to be JESUS!  Who appears "ignorant?"

      Re: Kill: "...why can't he have Elijah to do it since you say I am?" 
      Sanity or ignorance?

    14. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Haven't I been giving you scriptures you are to "functionally iterate" to comprehend?  Since you don't understand "the map" how can you know anything?

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: I KNOW u have "preconceived idea" that u r JESUS!  Sanity?  JESUS does not care about ur "flesh!" Jn 4:24! Why ignore? Why speak of ur resemblance to Jesus'?  Have u forgotten Scripture? ALL SPIRIT!

    16. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You lie, NW, I KNOW I AM NOT Jesus which was a pseudonym for Yeshua and Me. I'm Eliyehu foretold clearly in Mal 4:5-6 and Yeshua called Jesus (Mat 17:11) as the restorer of the pre Adam way of life. Who are you to deny the second messiah, NW?

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: If ur the second Messiah, why don't u no we r under the NC (Rev 22:`7) & why have u not "turned the heart of fathers to children, & the heart of the children to their fathers" (Mal 4:6)?

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    Norine Williamsposted 9 years ago

    It was "a shadow of things to come!"  Hebrews 10:1 says "For the law, "having a shadow of things to come..." is where Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus which was under the "law!"  Now, we are under the New Covenant of Grace and Truth and can speak "directly" to God as did Elijah and Moses via the precious "gift" of the Holy Spirit!

    1. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      We are no longer under the New Covenant, Since the meger-Laodicean church is here we are in the time of Elijah and terminating of the world.  Follow Elijah into Armageddon like Israel did Moses into the Red Sea to survive the world's termination.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      There are only two dispensations in Bible, the OC (law)  & NC (G&T)! Did Elijah make another Cov? (Give Vs) If not, under NC! I will follow NC until His return (Acts 2:42) as commanded! NO ONE "knows" His return! Matt24:36;Ps90:4;2Pet3:8! Get

    3. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Mal 4:5-6 say Elijah is to be the prophet like Moses (Deu. 18:15&18) who lead spiritual Israel through the "red sea" of blood the world sheds (Rev 16:13-14&19:21) and into Armageddon (Rev 16:15-16). That is not a covenant but the world's end.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: Why do you "limit" God?  John was full of the HS inside mom (JESUS)! Anything/one used by GOD (HS) is JESUS! Jesus announced Himself at 1st coming (John) & will do so at 2nd (Elijah & Moses)!  He who has ears let him hear! No flesh-Spiri

    5. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You, not Elijah, is limiting god. Jesus is the pseudonym for both Yeshua and Elijah, the second boy of the pseudonym, is now proclaiming Elijah is the prophet like unto Moses.  Where is the limiting?

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: JESUS IS ALL!

      Give Script we're NOT to live under NC until His return! No one knows His return. Maybe 1K yrs fm now!

      Signs-Yes! As w/our parents! Give Scriptures!

      JESUS is GOD (ALL) Elijah, Moses, John, Paul,etc! 

      ONE SPIRIT!  Why limit?

    7. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Illiterate NW, Isa 11:1&10-12 after understanding Mat 24:32-34 & Psl 90:10 tells us he will be on earth around 1948 but his revealing happens upon his fulfilling Mal 3:1 which even he doesn't know the day nor hour, so he's awaiting his manife

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: Mal 3:1 mentions "...covenant" you delight in..." Who's illiterate when u say "no covenant?" "Rightly divide His Word!" 

      Where's "mark of the beast" which hasn't happened yet? U're trying to "skip" dispensations! Live NOW under NEW COVENANT!

    9. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The mark of the beast doesn't happen until the USA is destroyed (Rev 13-10 & Zac 5:1-4), have you seen photo of Japan after the A-bombs (Rev 4:6)? Ronald=6 Wilson=6 Reagan=6, was the 666 man.  As Elijah I'm given the sequence of things to come.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: What's ur problem? U thk u r God?  Elijah is but one of the many Glories of Jesus!  Remember "I AM?" 
      If "mark of the beast" doesn't happen "until US destroyed" why "skip" the dispensation GOD told u to live in?  Become obedient! Get ready!

    11. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Because when Rev 3:14-18 happened, during the life of Elijah, that was the end of the dispensation you are telling people to return to.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli:  Why does verse 19 says "repent" as do Acts 2:38 if we are not still "repenting" under New Covenant? Explain!

    13. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Most man lake the meaning of repent.  To repent is to overcome the judgmental adjectives like evil/good, eliminate all attachments and return to living in the self-reproducing environment called nature.  None will repent without the new birth.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: So? We're "still" repenting!  We're "still" experiencing new birth under New Covenant! (V20) He's "still" knocking! "Knocking" for us to "come" under New Covenant!  U Agree?

      Until US destroyed, under New Covenant!

    15. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      People of the NC claims the NB without a conception, gestation, trivial, birth and spiritual growth (Rom 1:20), they are not experiencing the NB with Joh 3:8 & Mat 19:29 as its evidence.  I'm knocking on your door but you're keeping it locked tig

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: Why consider the Bible at all if u "skip" the dispensation in which u live? Revelation is "of thgs to come" but u want to "skip!" JESUS is still calling! If not, why Rev 22:17! He's calling us to salvation under NC!

      Jn10:10!Satan's deceived u!

    17. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Have you read the description Rev 1:14-15 gave for the person with the pseudonym name Jesus and looked at my photo? Go to my FB, Elijah A Alexander Jr, and look at all my photos and compare them to it and tell me what you see.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: See how u r "ignoring" Jn 4:24?  "Physical appearance" has "nothing" to do with "pen name" (insult) of JESUS!  Phil 2:9-11! What "pen name?" Script says NAME" not "pen name!"

      JESUS cares "nothing" about "flesh" re: Jn 4:24! Where r u?

    19. The0NatureBoy profile image58
      The0NatureBoyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So you are saying the Bible description of him was not wot us to know who to look for?  Why else do you think Isa 52:15-53:12, Isa 63:1-6 and Rev 1:14-15 are in the Bible, for nothing?  and you are following Holy spirit? Shame, NW, you want to teach?

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: No matter who u "think" u r, u must live in the dispensation in which u were commanded to live in (Gal 1:6-9)!  All prophets, disciples, etc. did & so do u!  "No servant is greater than his master" (Jn13:16;15:20; Matt 10:24)! R u Master?

 
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