Did any of the writers of the bibles ever see God?

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   bradmasterOCcalposted 9 years ago

   Did any of the writers of the bibles ever see God?
   
   For example, in the bible Adam and Eve never saw God, they only heard him.
   Moses never saw God.
   There have been writings of seeing Angels, and if Angels can be seen, God should also be capable of being seen.
   For that matter no one has ever seen the Devil?
   
   

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   Ericdierkerposted 9 years ago

   Interesting notion. If one just 100% denies any concept that Christ is God, you have a point. But then one would have to believe God is seeable. Not necessarily a real idea. If one really just cannot stand the idea of a Trinity God, then I think you are suggesting an impossibility unless God were to want to take a form of matter that you could recognize as God, by why would God do that? To prove he exists.
   Nope the God you refer to is not a visual concept at all.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Then God and the Angels are not the same beings, because people have claimed to see God.
      And God was alleged to be heard, hearing and sight are both down to our levels of detection.

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      Ericdierkerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Excuse me what "people" claim to have seen God? Other than Christ if you believe in a triune God. I want to talk to these people - or maybe not, if you get my drift two ways.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I meant to write Angels, and not God.
      mia culpa

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   tsmogposted 9 years ago

   Speculatively without suggesting a belief system to criticize Satan was seen by Jesus before crucified when tempted. Satan is an angel not a god. Supposedly an angel is non-physical as matter. For further study of angels as matter seek Thomas Acquinas as one source with Thomistic thought. So, both an angel was seen and Satan double whammy.
   
   Of course for argument sake again not implying belief systems for discussion one accepts Jesus was a man. But, alas, Jesus wrote not any of the bible, so this discussion is nullified regarding the opening question, even though as monotheism . . . Jesus is an element of the trinity concept for a God.
   
   For further thought I discovered this question inspiring from past studies while seeking for self answers leading me on a mind boggling adventure still dear to my heart. Thus, I share a little of that with hope is of interest . . .
   
   Back on topic more philosophical possibly theological discussing the question suggested is a God or god is monotheism view. That considers many not one being Christianity. So, too many for me of least to research seeking an answer for the question within their accepted Holy scriptures if God or god has been seen.
   
   Then comes for all views while hinting again toward the philosophical is how is god or God defined. One may have to jump to epistemology for if God or god was seen as it involves form and matter, of which are three in scientific format. Also, seeking material and immaterial being dualism.
   
   So, one also must consider if God or god exists as reality inside, outside, both, both, or regarding infinity while is inclusive of the universe and there still remains beyond . For reality one must jump to Ontology for discussion. Some seek that before a discussion of any -ism. Personally I like studying Greek and Nordic gods. Great for writing stories of adventure with morals.
   
   BTW an old joke from class was what does matter matter anyway?

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting, but the question was directed to what was seen or not seen by the writers of the bibles. They either thought they saw God, or they knew they never saw God. We don't know from the writers whether God is any different than the King of Ange

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      tsmogposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      If the Trinity Concept of God is accepted then God was seen as Jesus. Jesus was God incarnate as a man. Jesus saw Satan. Jesus did not write any of the Holy Scriptures.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Unfortunately, no one has seen them together. It is a New Testament story that there is a connection.

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   wba108@yahoo.composted 9 years ago

   According to the scriptures, anyone who has seen Jesus, has seen the Father (God). Moses saw God from a cleft in the rock because a full manifestation of His glory would have blinded or killed him.
   
   But for those who haven't literally seen God why do you posit that He should be seen? If God is really God and His ways are higher than our ways why should He be bound by your rules of logic?

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Basically because he hasn't been seen we don't have a God, we have the illusion of a God followed by 100s of different religions.
      The result of not seeing a God has been the failure of the human race, as evil has trumped good since recorded history

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      wba108@yahoo.composted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You don't see air or love but few would say they don't exist. It says the pure in heart shall see God but I believe this "seeing" doesn't refer to a physical seeing but seeing with the eyes of the heart.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I see the result of a world that is allegedly the domain of a God or two Gods that filled with evil. From the beginning of recorded history, not the bibles, and before and after the writing of each bible, and before and after Jesus. That is not Godly

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