Does God really care?
In life we all often face very many challenges. Some leave us distressed, others leave us bitter, and some leave our spirits crushed. In all these, we always want to run to some higher power, one that will console us, provide with the solution or take us through the whole ordeal with some form of cushioning. Those who trust in God often run for him for this. However. in certain cases one may feel like God does not really care, or he is too busy for us. When going through such, do you often feel like God does not really care? How do you handle such?
Yes, many have a "Crisis Christ," who only seek Him during difficult times, but there is consolation in the Word of God!
In order for one to sustain "natural" life, "food" and "drink" is necessary! Likewise, in order to sustain "spiritual" life, "Food" and "Drink" is also necessary!
GOD SAID in Isaiah 26:3-4 "Thou wilt keep him in "perfect peace," whose mind is STAYED on thee; because he trusteth in thee. (4) Trust ye in the Lord for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength!"
We awake, feed the "natural," but do we "Feed" our spirits? Instead of running first to the computer, why not open the Bible and "Feed" our spirits (daily) as well?
GOD created us with His own Hands! He loves us! He has a "plan" for each of us! Jeremiah 29:11 says "For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end." It may not seem He's there, but "He's working" all toward that "expected end!"
Don't forget! He DIED for us!!! John 15:13-14 says "Greater LOVE hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (v14) Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you."
Well put Norine, do you mean you have never been in a situation where you felt God is too far from you at that particular point of need?
Norrine - this is an answer to your comment on my statement. I am 55 years old, and realize I will not walk this Earth forever. I do not wish to spend what time I have left paying for other people's dysfunction. What type of parent would force that?
Shad: YES! In the natural,have u had a flat, late for work, felt GOD gone, afterwards wreck in same place u traveled to work & avoided possible death? It doesn't seem OK to us but GOD knows "expected end!"
Yo: What "dysfunction?"
I mean tolerating abuse, especially from professional criminals, which is what happened when I was in the cult. Worse yet, I couldn't rescue my niece when she dropped out of high school to join one.
Yoleen we have heard your story of a cult and bad people. But it is an analogy, a one example of bad. It does not hold true for Billions as a group. You yourself call it a cult not a religion. Horrible but not to make generalizations about.
ED - I am definitely not the first person ever to join a cult! In fact, my case is very mild. What about the people Harold Camping led astray, who cashed in their life savings believing Jesus would rapture them? Or the Jim Jones cult, where 913 died?
I just assume you know what an inconsequential number that is in the grand scheme of things. Micro-micro-micro situations not even in league with a small denomination of normal. You just can't build a world view on top of a crazy anomaly. Or you can
Yo:Why do u continue to "look back?" Does Christ? No sins forgiven if HE did!U MUST Forgive! Let go! Scripture says in Phil 3:13-14 "...forgetting those thgs which r behind, & reaching forth unto those thgs which are before, I PRESS TOWARD the ma
ED - when you count all the Native Americans and others annialated in the name of Christ, it is MAJOR - at least to them. Norrine - I can't shrug off having my life threatened. What if it happens again? Where was God when it happened?
Yo: Exactly where HE is today! Bringing u to HP ("expected end") to be told TRUTH! Hallelujah!
U still have life - "shrug it off" & be grateful!
If u "WAIT" HS will discern for u!
Yoleen you have got to be able to separate the crazy people that us religion as an excuse to do wrong from the faith in God. Islamic terrorists today do not do what they do for their religion. They are nutcases using religion. All Muslims are not bad
No Eric - "WE" can't beat the HOLY SPIRIT discerning good fm evil & is why I KEEP SAYING "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for "HELP," if she had "originally," the HOLY SPIRIT would've told her not to join "cult!" "We" can't beat GOD (HS)!
ED & NW - If you want to worship an all-powerful, ever-present Deity that allows events such as the Holocaust, that is your privilege. What happened to me and my niece are microscopic in comparison; I'm busy educating myself to keep it that way.
Yo: Continue that "attitude," cult (Satan) has won which was their "original" intent!
Don't let him (Satan/cult) win!
This time DO NOT RELY ON MAN, but the HOLY SPIRIT!!!
"Educating yourself?" JUNK! Proverbs 3:5!!!
That is cool Yoleen. I hope only the best for you.
YO: "WE" have "dominion" on earth - NOT GOD (Gen 1:28)! Don't keep "blaming HIM" for ur decision! HE'S waiting for u to STOP using "your understanding" & rely TOTALLY on HIM (Holy Spirit) for ALL TRUTH (Jn 14:26; 16:13)!
It's as if God doesn't exist at all. When I was younger, I prayed all the time. I prayed because I truly needed divine intervention. I was told that God would answer ALL prayers. Still nothing changed. For years nothing changed. Then I began to shout at God, pleading with him to honor his claim. Then I became enraged at God, then I learned to just forget about God. Years later, as an adult, it all started to make sense. I was putting false hope in a God that was NEVER there. Worthless!
Well said and offering of proof. Because just look at how you are today. Angry and bitter without God.
Get: You were never taught Scripture! We (man) can't have a "true" relationship w/GOD unless we "WAIT" for "HELP" from the Holy Spirit (Jn 14:26;16:13)! Religion teaches Holy Spirit weird or "religiously incorrect" although our line of communication
yea, getitrite, YOU are doing it WRONG! hahahaha. You gotta WAIT until the invisible man sees you!
Yea! Like that "invisible" breath you breathe!
Quite the contrary, I'm much happier than I was when I depended on a fable for the answer to life's complex problems. I have actually grown up. Only child like personalities need to believe in super heroes from comic books to be happy.
Well if you are happy that is very contradictory to most your angry statements. I suppose one could be happy that they are angry at believers. It would appear you still need divine intervention. Perhaps you were a nicer person when you believed.
Shadrack, why should I keep making excuses for something that is just not there? Insanity has been defined as doing the same thing over and again, expecting different results. At some point we have to grow up, and face the real world. It was a lie.
Get: God is the same "yesterday, today & forever" (Heb 13:8)! If it happened, then, (I'm a witness), it happens today! You MUST seek the Holy Spirit ("WAIT") for POWER but FIRST u MUST "BELIEVE!"
Getitrite - Me too! I am so much happier now than when I was a "believer". Now I can enjoy every minute of my day and never worry about the empty promises of "heaven". Seriously, religionists have to die to enjoy life?
Let me put it this way as I tell my grandkids: Do u want POWER that supersedes "Superman?" ALL u have to do is "BELIEVE" in "JESUS" with a "PURE HEART" & in ALL that HE has SAID!
Now beat that "happiness!"
AND you'll be prepared for "END TIMES
Getitrite, God DOES answer all prayers. Sometimes the answer is NO. You didn't accept God's answer, and since he didn't accommodate you, you turned away. God has to give you stuff in order for you to believe?
Interesting comment. Believer turned atheist because God did not give them what they wanted. Kind of like a tantrum. Interesting notion.
Eric: He needed "proof," but GOD "looks @ heart" (I Sam 16:7)!
Deut 6:16; Matt4:7 "Don't put GOD to the "test!"
Ausinstar, u are the only voice of reason on here.
For everyone else: Stop concentrating on the "tantrum" and concentrate on the people who keep lying to children about this fake God. This deception is vicious...and lends nothing of substance.
Let us contemplate that one. "vicious". Teaching my child about a loving Jesus is vicious. I think you spent too much time in the old days (OT). Your teachers should be spanked and introduced to the Gospel of love. If I were you I would hate.
Get: Austin KNOWS but as u was not "taught" Scripture (Acts 1:4; 8)! Without Holy Spirit, there's no proof & as u continued to seek "proof" & none manifested, became an unbeliever!
Not ur fault but ur shepherd's (Jer 23:1)!
Go back fast/p
Getitirite- I can only see it for what it is: a tantrum. You hate it and you want everyone else to hate it too. What if you were the one deceived--ever think of that?
Eric, what would you say to a father who allows his children to starve to death?
Loli, This question asks "DOES GOD REALLY CARE"
The best confirmation of God not caring is his dismissal of the needs of his people...the ones who have no other hope but him. The ones who cant understand why the answer is always NO. This is absurd!
God gave us "dominion"(Gen 1:28)! We hold the KEY & it's called "BELIEF!" One MUST do as HE said "Worship in SPIRIT" (Jn 4:23-24), with "PURE HEART" (Matt 5:8), WAIT (Acts 1:4) for POWER (Acts 1:8) then thgs will be manifested in the flesh!
"Ye are my friends,if ye do whatsoever I command you"....sounds a lot like my EX wife...which is why she's my EX wife...and just like religion,she still tries to "Command" me what to do....
Women,cant live without them...cant shoot them.
Religion,cant live with it...cant live with it...they can shoot you though...over a hundred million dead and counting since religion reared its ugly head.
If 1 "WAIT" (Acts 1:4), they would want to "run" to do what He said! No one has been "taught" the POWER (Acts1:8) of the Holy Spirit & no one "WAITED!" Therefore, NO ACTION - NO BELIEF!
Religionists really worship death. That is what they hope and pray for. Really a crappy way to live. Boy, are they going to be disappointed on their deathbeds.
@Austin: Who'll be "disappointed?"
We are reaping "supernatural" benefits in "this life" & have "no worry" of "END TIMES" as I see others on HP & in the world!
Who's not happy? Who's not reaping "supernatural" benefits? Who's worried about
Death is not something to be afraid of or dread if you have Christ. It is only the next step to a better life. Without Christ, death is horrific.
It is an individual preference. Only we can make such determinations for ourselves.
Yes!!! "Choose" (Joshua 24:15)! WRONG CHOICE = NOTHING! CHOOSE JESUS = "BENEFITS!"
Matt, I am not so sure it is a preference. Sometimes I think I would prefer not to believe. I like to think I am in control. I like to put God aside and take the reins of life. Preference maybe and maybe not.
Eric: Once we "Choose," we need to "let go & let GOD!" No more "self!" Let HIM be in control or not a BELIEVER! Heb 4:11 "Let us labour (our works) therefore to enter into THAT REST, lest any man fall after the SAME EXAMPLE of "UNBELIEF!"
Norine, let go and let God would be good for you. Your passion is evident. Your knowledge well preserved. Now be human for you are not more than that.
Eric: I am a spirit (1st) housed in a body (man) as u! It is that I BELIEVE GOD can do ANYTHING better than I (man)! I'm no "better" than u! I study HIS WORD & do as Matt 23:27 'WITH ALL THY HEART" for GOD is a "HEART GOD" & it MUST be "PURE!
I was a devout Christian most of my life. Growing up in a ghetto, I dealt with this dissonance by squelching this thought. As an adult, this led to my inadvertently joining a cult, putting my life in danger. I questioned God for years, with no answer. After realizing billions of people far worse off than me have also questioned God, with the same result, I have come to the conclusion He either doesn't exist, or is nothing like Christianity portrays Him.
This leaves me with the enormous task of sorting everything out myself. Ultimately, we all have to do that, whether we admit it or not. Faith in God works for some, but they need to respect the fact that it doesn't work for everyone.
You must "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for what MOST have been taught is "weird" (The Holy Spirit) for POWER (Acts 1:8) and for a "true" relationship with HIM!
Lucas, Ill be honest, I do believe and know he exists. He has done and in some cases exceeded my expectations. Only that there are certain dire situations I really want to see Him act, almost immediately but in some cases I am genuinely disappointin.
Shadrack - I fully realize it is not my place to tell people what to believe. I don't have ESP. That is why I'm an agnostic rather than a full blown atheist. Einstein believes Gid exists, but takes no special interest in this world or its people.
The man who sang "God Is An Awesome God" Rich Mullins(a devout Christian)was killed in a horrific accident. Just horrific! I'm sure he prayed daily for God to keep him safe. I can't have blind faith in a God who behaves in such stupefying ways.
Get: Does WORD not say there is an "expected end?" Death is inevitable & if a "devout Christian," Mullins knew "We are CONFIDENT...& willing rather to be absent from the body, & to be present w/the LORD" (2Cor 5:8)!
"WE" can REJOICE!
Getitrite, stop the bull. You just can't have faith. You can't even believe in evolution because there is no proof as to start. Is planet X real? No not for you. Is Kale good for you - today? How about tomorrow. Coffee? Prostate? Your need is sad.
Get: Was Mullins' death MORE HORRIFIC (& humiliating since HE was GOD) than Christ's or do u not BELIEVE Christ died?
There is an "expected end" for ALL flesh! Go back & "WAIT" by seeking the HOLY SPIRIT for "supernatural" benefits & END
Again, another bad experience led you away from God. Not all are like "cults." You're traumatized, and unless you get help, you will never sort things out yourself.
Loli: I have a BA in Psychology (man made; Prov 3:5) which is totally against JESUS!
This is totally "SPIRITUAL" & until we can totally rely on the Holy Spirit, help man provides temp fix!
Holy Spirit supersedes"man"but 1 MUST "BLV" w/a PURE HEA
Eric, why are u spouting all of this presumptuous nonsense? I have no idea how u are relating all this stuff to my thorough deconstruction of religion's faulty premises. I think u hate it when I make u think. Religion is a powerful drug. Hard to kick
Get: I see it's "hard for u to kick" too! Not too late! Go back! Fast, pray, seeking Holy Spirit "diligently" w/a "PURE HEART" who will "lead & guide u into ALL "truth" (Jn 14:26; 16:13)!
Getitite- Deception is also a hard drug to kick--and you are od-ing on it.
Yet u are the ones who believe that an ancient book, that has been translated multiple times, and used by tyrants worldwide over centuries, is the sacred word of a God...just because the tyrants told u so. I would be embarrassed!!!
Embarrass us farther by "providing a "book" with as many "accurate" fulfilled prophecies as the Bible written before Bible! Who could have know this BUT GOD?
If not, you should be "embarrassed!"
Even if your ancient book has predicted many events,(which it hasn't)that still doesn't confirm ANYTHING! U are just blatantly trying to draw a conclusion based completely on biased nonsense, because u have no REAL proof. I would be embarrassed.
U r an "embarrassment," evading the question!
The question is absurd, and completely irrelevant, and confirms absolutely NOTHING! This irrelevant question has become your desperate plea...a feeble attempt at abdicating reason in favor of ancient folklore. Its like saying 2+2=47. U should stop!
"IF" you're intelligent enough, read the Book of Daniel to see today's foreign policies being fulfilled as prophesied by the Prophet Daniel then tell me! END TIMES not my gift!
Then you'll "see," 2+2 does = 47 if GOD SAYS SO!
In order for God to care, he would first have to exist.
Prove God does not exist! Otherwise all you have is a theory that God does not exist. Some proofs are in the negative. Can you do it?
@Eric, I can prove that God does not exist. That is not the problem. The problem is that religious people will deny the proof.
No you cannot prove that God does not exist. The whole essence of a God is that without proof or proof against. How could you possibly disprove something that by it's nature is beyond comprehension. No one has ever proven God does not exist.
@Eric, I can absolutely, without question prove that God does not exist.
1 John 4:16 says that God is love. God lives in those who love him. Does God live in these people? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1kTF3smOE
Absolutely. You are joining the plane of analytics with the plane of spirituality. They do not mix. God is love. Love is God. Omnipotent and omnipresent. The closest we can perceive is love but even that is limited by perception. God is greater.
I love that you used the words omnipotent and omnipresent. You would agree that God has the capacity to love more than humans can love, right? If your child was starving, would you feed him/her?
You are not walking down a road of legal or scientific proof. You are going down a road of what you consider logic and logic is not proof. What God would do and why is not factual. You do not know God.
And since it has been said that God is omnipotent, then there is absolutely no excuse for his incompetence...negligence...callousness...
A God like that cannot exist externally/objective.That God can only be imagined, ergo no real power.
@Eric, When Christians are asked questions about God, they reference the Bible. So, I have used the Bible to prove that God does not exist. Now you are saying that the Bible is not accurate. There is no God. Life and the Bible prove this.
Don't ask rhetorical questions state your proof. If the bible is your proof then you must accept it as true.
@Eric, I am illustrating a point. The point is that according to the Bible, the existence of God is not possible. All Christians see the Bible as truth. I am showing you that based on your Bible, God cannot exist.
But you do not accept the Bible as proof or truth. Then I do. So it is not a fact that it is proof or truth it is debatable. Some thing that is debatable is not fact enough for a proof. (I deny a proof is reasonable when it comes to faith)
The story of Santa Claus proves he isn't real. We all know reindeer can't fly. The story of God proves he isn't real. We all know that a loving God would not allow .00001% of the human suffering that exists today.
Funny you say that. I have a high IQ and four degrees and I disagree with you. Your proof stinks. It would not even pass mustard in the FRE. You are using your logic as proof. And it simply is argument and not proof.
Eric, what does your high IQ say about this little girl who was raped by her uncle? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … g-bed.html
My logic? I have a degree in philosophy. There is not logic to heinous acts of sick individuals. Why in the world would an all knowing God permit it to happen? If I were God I could answer that. F*** why? I do not get it. How can it be?
GUYS: People can "CHOOSE" to do ANYTHING that want (Josh 24:15) that's MY ALL LOVING GOD! However, HE left u "instructions" (Bible)!
It's up to each of us!
Eric, there is no logic to nonsense. However, logically, there is no God.
Great we are agreed. God is not a logical construct. God is omnipotent and omnipresent and has no need to be logical. You go be logical, I support you. But leave faith alone because you do not get it.
Eric, I have faith in myself. Faith in an "omnipotent," inactive God is merely a source of comfort for those who are too afraid of the reality that we exist in a vast and cold universe.
"All believers believe because they are afraid" "All non-believers are not afraid" Interesting premise.
MM: Prov 3:5 "Lean NOT to your OWN understanding..." U trust "the creation more than THE CREATOR" (Rm 1:22;25)?
Pls furnish a book written BEFORE Bible w/as many "accurate" fulfilled prophecies as Bible.
Who could've known this but GOD?
As for his distance I can never doubt. I know he does exists.
Amen! Hallelujah! God Bless!
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