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Everyone is the one who is correct

  1. ddsurfsca profile image73
    ddsurfscaposted 8 years ago

    I have followed without posting very much at all these threads where all out war on one another and their beliefs, or lack of them, and find it discusting, on one hand and curious on the other.
       How does anyone have a right to judge what is right for another person?
       I know in my heart that I am doing the right thing in my life, I have my beliefs, and I am not going into what they are right now, but surely it is not the christian thing to do, to judge another's heart and tell him that he is going to burn in hell if he doesn't believe what you do.
       Judge not lest you be judged.  I have heard that christians are weak minded individuals because they need to have a crutch, and I have heard that non believers are ignorant and lack faith.  Isn't it God's job to do all this deciding what is right for each man's life?  If we believe in an almighty God, is he not capable of showing each man himself?
       Let God teach and you all need to learn that to each his own, and maybe nobody is right or wrong, maybe what you believe is the reality you will face and that is what is supposed to be.
       Live your convictions and stop being so mean and cruel to each other.  That is the right way.

    1. profile image0
      Poppa Bluesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That's a good question, but too many people believe the government should decide what is right for us and have no problem with a bunch of bureaucrats imposing their will upon us in clear violation of natural law, God's law, like health care for example, or seat belts, or taxing soda, or restricting salt, etc.

      It's not the function of government to tell us what's best for us and impose restrictions on our freedom to accomplish what government views as societal good, yet you seem to have supported that in other forums even though that conflicts with the beliefs you expressed here. So which is it?

    2. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Don't you see that by disapproving of other people behavior, and telling them their way is wrong, and telling them your way is right - you are judging, too? The only way to get rid of judging I know of is just to mind your own business and let everybody be as they are pleased wink

    3. h.a.borcich profile image60
      h.a.borcichposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Hi dd,
         Yes - there are threads that look like nothing but a war, but most of them start one of two ways.
        1. A person with beliefs asks for others with belief to give input. Pretty much it is jumped on by people mocking that belief, telling the originator there is no sky fairy, or "give me proof of this god". Rarely can the OP get the input he has asked for because nonbelievers claim they must stop the stupidity.
        2. Some topics are questions that the answer reveals the persons faith based core. Things about parenting, relationships, how to handle money - all involved our faith. Once an honest response is given, the unbelievers jump on telling believers they are stupid.

        No one has the right to make anyone take on any certain belief. And I don't know why there isn't tolerance from those who don't believe. On this forum I have been told that my beliefs should be outlawed even in my home. I have been told that to pass my beliefs on to my children is child abuse. And worse.

        I can not give "beauty pagent" answers when I respond to a question thread. And I will not deny what I believe. Nor I do not go around attacking nonbelievers either. Defend my belief - sometimes.

        Chances are someone will very soon blast you just for typing
      "Let God teach you..." because that is what happens here. You have apparently assumed there is a God and they will be offended.
       
        Tolerance on hubpages is not what I expected. I did a thread on it last week in thereligion forum. The truth does reveal itself. You'll see. Good luck to you, Holly smile

      1. profile image54
        (Q)posted 8 years agoin reply to this

        That must be a definition of "honest" not in any secular dictionary, right?
         


        You just answered your own question.

        1. h.a.borcich profile image60
          h.a.borcichposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          And so it goes smile

          1. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            It takes two to tango. wink

            1. Andrew0208 profile image56
              Andrew0208posted 8 years agoin reply to this



              Some atheists in their unbelief system of atheism like Mark starts and breed wars and attacks on Christianity in the community by downing and hijacking any opinion or belief by calling names like calling anyone "deluded" because of not alligning with the crapy lies and pride of atheism.

              1. earnestshub profile image89
                earnestshubposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                What is wrong with telling a deluded person that they are deluded? smile

                1. h.a.borcich profile image60
                  h.a.borcichposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  As my response is quoted, I ask you Earnest..Are you saying I am mentally impaired because I am a christian?

                2. Andrew0208 profile image56
                  Andrew0208posted 8 years agoin reply to this


                  What makes anyone think that he is not deluded in atheism unbelief system?

                  1. earnestshub profile image89
                    earnestshubposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    No invisible fairy throwing out fearful messages for one! lol

              2. Cagsil profile image60
                Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Does that mean I am the same? Or are you specifically addressing or attacking "atheists"?

                Just curious? smile

                1. Andrew0208 profile image56
                  Andrew0208posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  No sentiments, Mark enjoys attacking everyone that don't accept his unbelief system.

                  1. Cagsil profile image60
                    Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Well, I don't have a belief in GOD either. I've been called all sorts of things, by a number of religious faith individuals. I have no religious ties whatsoever. Because, I reject all religions that are mystic based. With the pure and simple fact - mystic? is a person who practices mysticism.

                    The evolution of the human brain which was discovered in the 1970's, used every science field known to man, to debunk religion and to do so for the benefit of humanity. However, the "church", this includes ALL religions, tried to discredit the whole lot(all science fields) and couldn't. So, it attacked individual sections, so as to discredit the whole. The church was successful, because it attack the weakest link in the chain, the study of the human mind. Basically, psychology and biology. These fields over the last 40 years have made strives forward and now are credited. So, that blows the churches plan, but it did gain another 40 years, to come up with another idea, which is now that GOD created everything in the gaps of science, therefore it must created everything else. It's sad, pathetic and it's only done to manipulate society.

                    I'm sorry people refuse to accept it, but it's fact. I understand where Mark is coming from, and sometime I agree with him on many aspects, for which, I know for a fact he is speaking the truth.

      2. getitrite profile image79
        getitriteposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Any belief in imaginary beings and places is disturbing, would you not agree?  The only difference between your imaginary being and others is that you are supported by a worldwide delusion.  Atheist are only trying to help you see that you are being tricked.  Your steadfast adherence to your delusion is what, eventually, causes the hurt feelings.

    4. getitrite profile image79
      getitriteposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      ----------------------------------------------------------------

      "Let God teach and you all need to learn that to each his own, and maybe nobody is right or wrong"


      It's not a matter of right or wrong.  It is a matter of logical thinking versus nonsensical thinking.

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      Justine76posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      smile
      very nice.

    6. profile image0
      SirDentposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      So Ted Bundy was right in killing and raping young women?

      1. Ohma profile image74
        Ohmaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Sir Dent I find your constant comparisons of non believers to the people in our society that are sick and demented offensive and scary.
        Not all non-believers are mass murderers and psychopaths likewise not all believers are saints. If you have not figured this out on your own by now then I truly believe that you above all of the rest of us are the one in most need of being saved from yourself.

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          lol lol lol lol lol

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    Over The Hillposted 8 years ago

    I`m new here but read all the posts and I`ve not yet seen anyone tell another they`re going to burn in hell.That statement is tossed at the believers quite a bit but I`ve not seen it said.I`m not trying to take sides but the agression usually starts with the unbelievers. I haven`t seen anyone cramming religion down anyones throat.

    1. ddsurfsca profile image73
      ddsurfscaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      keep reading, it gets bad sometimes

  3. kess profile image62
    kessposted 8 years ago

    The petty comments with an air of wisdom is most rampant.
    Especially when the topic itself is serious.

    There are many here with nothing to add but adds it anyway.

    1. Sa Toya profile image74
      Sa Toyaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I agree.  There are so many petty snide remarks around. roll

      Some people take things to far sometimes, when it's uncalled for and things get personal and very nasty.

      I don't understand why people can't have an opinion and state that without the other person bashing them.

      I'm not saying we should all agree or it's wrong to object to another's opinion. IT'S NOT!

      What's wrong is when people become nasty to the person giving the opinion.

      Nothing's perfect but at some point we should be able to get along.

  4. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 8 years ago

    Everyone is the one who is correct

    I find that many people are still looking for answers to their own existence, some have found a path of least resistance, by believing their life is for some purpose other than what they set themselves. This is UNTRUE!

    The purpose of our life, for it to be completely spiritual in nature, show our love for one another and help each other strive to be the best we can be while we live.

    To understand - You are born, You gain knowledge in your early years, You're taught to live a specific way, You're to strive to gain self-growth, which leads to knowing oneself. Once you learn to know and understand yourself, then you'll love yourself, which allows you to love others.

    The satisfaction gained from this process isn't to be tampered with or sent off course, by non-rationalized belief in something you yourself cannot guarantee is truth.

    Those who believe in "GOD", find it their mission to step out and make those who don't believe understand.

    Those who judge, by telling them they will be condemned to hell or damnation, speak ill-words, without realizing truth of life. Therefore, they pass along learnt knowledge with empty wisdom.

    Therefore, let's try to keep it real. That's my take. smile

    1. Sa Toya profile image74
      Sa Toyaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Hiya Cags big_smile

      I believe in God but I agree with you here-More often those who believe in God condemn others to hell or deem they need saving create problems here too.

      And yes...keeping it real is the way forward big_smile

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Hey Sa Toya, How are you today? big_smile

        1. Sa Toya profile image74
          Sa Toyaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I'm good, you?

          writing some hubs...taking on the challenge, I've got 5 that need finishing and publishing...busy busy

          big_smile

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            That's cool! cool  I took 5 down yesterday myself. lol lol  Makes me think I'm headed in the wrong direction. j/k big_smile smile wink

      2. Marquis profile image78
        Marquisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Yea, but on the other side, those who do not believe or do not profess to believing in God also down Christians and Christianity in general. Some even make offensive jokes about those who actually follow the word of God.

        1. Misha profile image75
          Mishaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Really? How dare they! yikes

          1. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I keep telling them.

            If they do not want people to laugh at their beliefs - they should not have such funny beliefs. big_smile

  5. profile image0
    ralwusposted 8 years ago

    Ach well, we are only human after all. The dogs sometimes turn on the shepherd as well as the sheep.

    1. profile image0
      Denno66posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Correct. We do. big_smile

  6. Andrew0208 profile image56
    Andrew0208posted 8 years ago

    Pride, tyrany and hate are the delusion of atheism makeup unbelief system.

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      didn't know Atheism is a 'belief' system.
      We don't believe in anything.
      lol
      and there's no tyrany and hate in Atheism. We don't fear, so we don't have to hate. While fear of God is all over the Bible.
      and Tyrany? Where? A lot of tyrany in history, is due to Religion.  Examples can be the Inquisition, and all european royalty in the 14, 15, 16 and 17 century.

      1. Andrew0208 profile image56
        Andrew0208posted 8 years agoin reply to this

           
        "unbelief system." You've got lots of above mentioned sect among ur system doing in a more crafty and diplomatic manners. C u later

        1. tantrum profile image60
          tantrumposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          You said it was a make up of unbelief system. That's what I understood.and As all believers say that Atheism is a believe, I infered wrongly.
          Sorry!
          anyway hatred and tyrany doesn't have anything to do with ahteism.

        2. tantrum profile image60
          tantrumposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          and you just added the last phrase.


          'You've got lots of above mentioned sect among ur system doing in a more crafty and diplomatic manners.'

          What is my system? Atheism is not a system. And doesn't have sects either.  Name me one.

  7. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    Not believing in fairytales is not a belief system of any sort! smile
    I don't believe in the tooth fairy either, does that mean that I have some system of thinking? lol
    It's called sanity.

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      All this system thing !

      Atheism is only a point of view. A philosophy of life.
      Mixing systems with tyrany and heatred and putting all  this together into Atheism is ridiculous.

    2. Andrew0208 profile image56
      Andrew0208posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well that makes an unbelief system of yours a choice.

  8. profile image0
    lyricsingrayposted 8 years ago

    This post is most confusing and therefore disturbing.  I am lost for words and disappointed in your negativity with this thread.

  9. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago

    TK seems to have many socks.

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      TK eh? Makes sense. smile

 
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