Is the Mormon; Glen Beck the "Savior?"
What creator is that? History?
Don't they have dictionaries where you come from? God and Government should be separated - that is what the history books say. Or they do until Texas gets a hold of them. Tee hee - you Konservative Kristians are soo funny. Scary, but - mostly funny.
At least you are honest about your religion being more about politics than anything else. Well done for being honest.Well Poppa Blues - of all the people on hubpages who intentionally mis-represent themselves with a fake user name and stolen avatar - I think you take the biscuit.
land was never stolen from the natives.
They were compensated for their land,
and are still being compensated today!
Sounds like that really bites Poppa Blues, I feel your low-down blues from here. Exactly how do you compensate some one for intentionally infecting them with cholera?
Like wot it sez to do in the biybel........
Hmmmmmmm Kristian Family Values.
Bring Back The Good Old Days.
Uh....no, I didn't say that to you.
But whatever.
Teach? You are a teacher now? Golly gosh. So - do I have the right to express my disdain for your continued attacks on people expressing their opinion? I mean - is that OK with you Mr Teacher?
How tall are you anyway? Pretty short I suspect. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I like my women short. My wife is Japanese and very short. I think it is cute.
Glen Beck a Mormon huh? No wonder he comes across as so condescending. That explains a lot. Mormons are probably the most hubris-filled of all the religionists. They haven't really done anything except build an office block as far as I can tell. No wonder all the real religions hate them.
You mean Mark is NOT a republican Christian?
You said "Glen" and "inform." I nearly wet myself!
Does not compute! Does not compute!
- SirDentposted 14 years ago
0 - SwampDonkeyposted 14 years ago0
Hey Sneaks, how's it going? Hey, let's just get it all out in the open. How about we all just throw the chips in the jar and express what we know of Mormons. It seems that most everyone here knows exactly what we are - let's here it!
I'll start:
Mormons have tails (I've been asked this many times and it would make sitting on the toilet rather difficult)
Mormons have many wives (inconceivable since one is enough
)
Mormons are not Christian (hmmm, The Church of Jesus Christ...)
Mormons don't believe in the Bible (it's only scripture we always carry around)
Mormons wear funny underwear (well, Haines are a bit itchy)
Mormons baptize others against their will (freedom of choice and liberty is only one of the main doctrines we teach)
Mormons are a cult (no more than atheists are or anyone else for that matter)
Mormons have horns (so that's why I can't seem to wear a hat)
Mormons relish in constant harems (right, activity like that would give me a cardiac arrest)
Mormons are morons (no more than has been demonstrated here on this thread by assaulting non-Mormons)
Mormons are non-charitable (yeah, right, it's not even worth listing all the service done in the past, present and yet to come)
Mormons are condescending (try, just once, looking in the mirror)
Mormons take people's money (we definitely teach the scriptural laws of tithing and other offerings, but it's never a forced issue, again it's the basic doctrine of free agency)
Mormons don't believe in technology (we are on the forefront of technology, I've always loved that one)
Mormon this and Mormon that. I've heard it all a thousand times and it proves only one thing. Knowledge is lacking in those who accuse and assume. None of the above accusations are true although there are a trillion more just as sick. Is there nothing better to do with your time than to continue the rot? If self righteousness is what many familiar faces wish to proclaim of themselves in cyberspace than go and prove yourself to them who are out there who need help, because you are doing no great wonder in here by tearing down other faiths. You may continue your little laughing faces as it is just another demonstration of assumed knowledge and belittles only yourself.
The thread was about Glen Beck and also about Mormonism. Pure and simple. He is not our spokesman regardless of the dung flung about in previous posts. He is an American exercising his liberty to express himself. Many Latter-day Saints do not agree with all of what he says. It's called freedom, people, not religion. If you want to bash the religion then go and revive the thread "Who are the Mormons" or whatever the title was. The colors portrayed in many posts here need not be true colors. It need not exhibit blackness in the heart and soul. Change that color by trying not to be so hateful. It's wrong and you know it. There have been few things that I have not agreed with about Glen Beck, but he is not a religious leader and not a spokesman for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.Well, what else would you expect from the other three thousand religions that are also "The only truth from god" You guys are hilarious!
goldenpath,
I hear the pain coming through of having been belittled for your beliefs. I don't wish to add more. If it is too painful to read someone contesting your statements, read no further. There are many things I take issue with.
I'd like to go through them individually as rationally as is possible.
Mormons have tails (I've been asked this many times and it would make sitting on the toilet rather difficult)
This is ignorance speaking about Mormons. It reflects the speaker more than the Mormons it purports to denegrate.
Mormons have many wives (inconceivable since one is enough )
While not all Mormans follow older traditions, it was true that polygamy was an accepted institution. A small percentage still follow this though it is against the gov't laws and current Mormon dogma. Therefore, not inconceivable, though your humor is well stated.
Mormons are not Christian (hmmm, The Church of Jesus Christ...)
Just because one claims to be Christian does not make it so. The incident with Jim Jones, Waco and others attribute to false self proclaimed Messiahs. Jesus himself said, "Many will come to me saying, 'I did all these things in your name.' and Jesus responds that he will say, "Depart from me. I never knew you." The truth is, no one can tell someone else they are or are not a Christian. The judge is Christ and I am not applying for the position. Therefore I cannot judge whom Christ will call his own. It is the individual's responsibility before God to confess their sins and honor Jesus as Lord of her/his life.
However, looking at the Mormon church, I find there are problems with the prophecies of Joseph Smith 'adding' to the Christian Bible. Revelation 22:18 pronounces against adding any more prophecies to the Bible. I believe this issue is true in many instances. If one wants to claim to be playing the game, e.g. basketball one can't change the rules of the game to suit oneself e.g.one team declares the game rules are like baseball, while everyone else adheres to the one rulebook e.g. basketball (or in the case of Christianity, the majority of followers say the Bible is the only book--no Book of Mormon added) and still call it the same game, e.g. basketball (or Christianity). If one changes the rules, which Mr. Smith did, it alters the belief, hence it cannot be called by the same name.
Mormons don't believe in the Bible (it's only scripture we always carry around)
It is not the only scripture. As a military chaplain I was required to provide the Book of Mormon so my Momon service members could have their complete scripture.
Mormons wear funny underwear (well, Haines are a bit itchy)
Perhaps attributing to some of the more secret rituals not referencing all Mormons. There are many groups, though, in cultures around the world that have members wear different attire when performing rituals. Half the colleges have fraternities and sororities require that. Hardly a denegration or a statement for everyday wear.
Mormons baptize others against their will (freedom of choice and liberty is only one of the main doctrines we teach) There have been some recorderd instances of this behavior. Again, it does not apply to all Mormons. A Mormon friend of mine was involved in an incident as such.
Mormons are a cult (no more than atheists are or anyone else for that matter)
The definition of cult precludes atheists from being called a cult.
A cult is a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
Atheists cannot be called a cult since they profess no religion, they are not organized and follow no specific leader, even if their views are extreme and unorthodox.
Mormons are a religion. Many Christians in many denominations consider Mormon dogmas false, but that is not necessary to be categorized as a cult. Mormons follow unorthodox teachings since Joseph Smith's teachings are not the orthodox church. The fact that he added 'latter day saints' to the name points to his unorthodoxy. He was separating himself from the orthodox Christians. Since Mormonism began with Joseph Smith's teachings, it seems inconsistent to argue for his orthodoxy.
Mormons have horns (so that's why I can't seem to wear a hat)
I have never heard this. Sad commentary on what people's perceptions are, or maybe they thought they wore Viking helmuts with horns. Who knows?
Mormons relish in constant harems (right, activity like that would give me a cardiac arrest) Some Mormon communities have made headlines for their polygamous behaviour. Again, it is not all Mormons.
Mormons are morons (no more than has been demonstrated here on this thread by assaulting non-Mormons)
I would have to say that calling any human-being a moron is inappropriate.
Mormons are non-charitable (yeah, right, it's not even worth listing all the service done in the past, present and yet to come)
The generosity of the Mormon church in many areas of life has been established. Anything else is ignorance speaking.
Mormons are condescending (try, just once, looking in the mirror)
I agree that the passion associated with religion does lend itself to condescension and its practice is unfortunately present on all sides of the fence.
All faiths have arrogant people and humble people.
When one becomes the focus of negative attention for hateful condescending ways, the rest are painted with his arrogance.
For Christians, it is rampant even though it is contrary to the humility that Christ demonstrated and asked us to demonstrate.
Christ pointed to hubris pride as the worst sort of sins. (I did note earlier that Christ might say he never knew some of these folk)
Pride sent Lucifer from heaven. Pride and arrogance were evident in the words spoken by the thief on the cross cruicified with Jesus. On the other hand the humble thief, Jesus honored with, "Today, you'll be with me in Paradise."
Mormons take people's money (we definitely teach the scriptural laws of tithing and other offerings, but it's never a forced issue, again it's the basic doctrine of free agency)
The Lord loves a cheerful giver. Sourgrapes when people belittle the church for asking for money to operate. 10 % of our income is to be tithed. God said so. We are to give. The church receives, not takes.
Granted, the Mormons are enthusiastic in their church membership requirements about giving to the church.
Mormons don't believe in technology (we are on the forefront of technology, I've always loved that one)
Ignorance speaking.
I don't imagine you'll agree with me on all my points, but we can agree to disagree. I trust that I was not condescending, pejorative or derogatory. It was my intent to be respectful.
Sincerely,
LynWell, I am learning a lot about passive aggressive attacks. I honestly thought my Mum was a Master until I met Goldenpath here. Turns out she is an amateur in comparison.
I am seeing it must be part of the Mormon training. I see it as a very dishonest way of making an attack, myself, but - that tends to be what religion brings out in people..
These guys - they must get an awful lot of unprovoked assaults. Which is what they want I guess. The poor downtrodden believer who just wants to love Jesus in peace. So sad......
Do it again, Lyndsey. I want to see who shows the most tolerance and understanding out of the two of you.
- Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago0
More than that! He doesn't know his bum from his mouth either!
Now that you mention it.
I guess we can add that to the other pile that's been stacking up in here.
Absolutely, hilariously funny!"Some of the 1787 delegates had no affiliation. The others were Protestants except for three Roman Catholics: C. Carroll, D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons. Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Church of England (Episcopalian, after the Revolutionary War was won), eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists, the total number being 49. Some of the more prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical or vocal about their opposition to organized religion, such as Thomas Jefferson (who created the "Jefferson Bible"), and Benjamin Franklin" ~~ wiki
Seems like a tad bit of denial in order to bring home a point. I accept your explanation as the best that it can be.
- PrettyPantherposted 14 years ago0
I have participated in quite a few online forums, and I NEVER thought I would say this, but quite a few people who post here really scare me, and I'm not saying this to be funny.
I just had to get that out.
So - is Glen Beck the new savior or not?
Color me confused.It already feels like 4,000. Still - he is a Mormon and I gather they like to make it last. Not sure how they manage that without alcohol but I have never had a Mormon lady for comparison. Not a big fan of those bonnets they wear.
I am sure it is fine if you have a dozen or so - but one at a time? No thanks.
I was thinking of having my stem cells frozen instead of the cryogenics thing. I think cloning and a brand spanking new body is the only answer to eternal life. God knows I have done bad things with this body, so I am going with a whole new model.
I promise never to start smoking this time.
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