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Belief in Angels is second article of faith in Islam.
There are six main Articles of faith in Islam :
To believe in the Oneness of Allah.
To believe in all His Angels.
To believe in all His Books.
To believe in all His Prophets.
To believe in the Day of Resurrection.
To believe in the Decree of Allah
The existence of angels is a universally accepted doctrine in different countries and different religions. However, they are sometimes discussed under other titles, the distinction being only one of nomenclature. Similarly, the nature of angels is understood differently among the followers of different religions. Islam speaks of angels as celestial beings of a spiritual nature who have their own entity as persons. The major role they play is the transmission of messages from God to human beings. But they are misunderstood by many, even within Islam, as having human shape or some shape and form, which in fact is an inseparable idea from that of material existence. Matter must have shape and a well defined boundary. But spirit lies beyond the five dimensions of man's understanding. One can only believe in the existence of spirit if he is a religious person; otherwise it is beyond his reach to conceive the shape and form of spirits. Perhaps to resolve this problem and to make it easier for man to visualise angels, they are sometimes mentioned in religious books as appearing to holy people in the form of human beings. Not only that; they are also known to have appeared to some messengers of God in the form of certain birds. The Holy Ghost appeared to Jesus in the form of a dove:
As soon as Jesus was baptised, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. (Matthew 3:16)
These various references found in religious books were perhaps largely responsible for the misperceptions about the form and nature of angels prevailing among the adherents of various religions. Out of angels, in some religions, deyotas and gods were created, while the original books may have only mentioned them as agencies specifically created by God for performing certain tasks in the universe; of this we have ample evidence in many divine books. So, it is not unlikely that some people misunderstand the significance of these statements and start treating angels as junior partners of God.
Angels do whatever they are commanded to do by the Creator- God Allah YHWH; they cannot disobey.
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
The angels who didn't follow Satan when he fell do God's bidding, yes. Not Allah's.
There's a book called "Angels Among Us, Separating Truth from Fiction" or "Fact" from fiction......authored by Ron Rhodes.
It has a lot of great info about the nature of angels according to the Word of God.
Good day, paar. Are your ears burning? Everyone's still talking in the other thread.
They say they are tired of seeing your signature line, and some people say it's offensive. Other people have said insulting things that I'd rather not repeat. Some people seem to want to be angry at you for things they perceive that the Muslim community has done.
All a bunch of nonsense really.
Can't they mention the religion and the denomination they believe in? What is wrong with that?
Well...Hmm...typically speaking, most people don't announce their faith when speaking with others (this is from a Western perspective). It seems that people get generally uncomfortable with such things. *shrug*
But I don't see that there's anything wrong with it, really. Other people have other opinions of course. But I didn't even know what the Ahmadi Muslims were until you came along...so I learned something. That's always cool. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
But - stealing is acceptable in Islam though? This was stolen from here:
It is clearly marked thus:
Copyright © by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community 1995-2010. All rights reserved.
Usmanali - you are just persuading us that you are a thief.
Thanks for pointing out; I missed to mention it.
My mistake and apopologies.
You misunderstood - you have no right to reproduce this and are a thief regardless of teh link
"All rights reserved"
Cut off your hands now.
LOL! A thief amongst us! I think Paar is following Muhammad's ways!
ok. Parrsurrey, I have to ask: what's the secret to all your energy?! I mean, starting threads 24/7....and to be able to repeat and repeat AND repeat your arguments over and over again.... I mean, you have to tell us please? Do you eat/sleep/ do anything else? I'm genuinely intrigued now...
Paarsurrey is not only suffering from a seminal impediment, he/she may also need some pork & alcohol in its life!!!! Hence forth, the endless forum posts of poppycock......
Noooo way...! you didn't just put sex, wine and 'haram' all in one post! This would kill the poor guy....
Just to let you guys know what Ahmadi Sect is about:
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad founded the movement on 23 March 1889. Ahmadis consider themselves Muslims and claim to practice Islam in its pristine form; however, most mainstream Muslims do not consider Ahmadis to be Muslims
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the Promised Messiah and Mahdi...Ahmadis believe that Jesus died in Kashmir of old age whilst seeking the Lost Tribes of Israel. Jesus’ remains are believed to be entombed in Kashmir under the name Yuz Asaf. They also believe that Jesus foretold the coming of Muhammad and Muhammad foretold the coming of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. However, mainstream Muslims consider him an apostate and believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was one of the 30 false claimants to prophethood
World wide scenario
Pakistan has 4 million Ahmadis  and is the only state to have officially declared the Ahmadis to be non-Muslims
In India, Ahmadis are considered to be Muslims but they are not allowed to sit on the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, a body of religious leaders India's government recognises as representative of Indian Muslims
In 2008, many Muslims in Indonesia protested against the Ahmadiyya movement. Public opinion in Indonesia is split in different ways on how Ahmadiyya should be treated. Most hold it should be banned outright on the basis that it is a heretical and deviant sect that is not listed as an officially recognised religion in Indonesia
IF you google Jesus (1835-1908), you will learn that Mirza was the only person who has claimed to be both, the promised return of Jesus as well as the promised Mahdi.
Islamic tradition has a prophecy of the Mahdi, who will come alongside the return of Isa (Jesus). Heres a short list of people claiming to be the Mahdi: Muhammad Jaunpuri (1443-1505), Báb (1819-1850), Muhammad Ahmad ("The Mad Mahdi") (1844-1885), Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908), Sayyid Mohammed Abdullah Hassan (1864-1920), Rashad Khalifa (1935-1990), Juhayman al-Otaibi etc.
I wonder which is more important:
How one considers oneself (how one identifies oneself), or how other people define you? Or is it a matter of either/or...what happens when there is conflict?
Hmm. So many things to think about today.
paarsurrey: agar tusee punjabi jaantey ho...to bhaai yay threads banaanein chore dein please!!.. hum per reham karien ...sab apaka mazaak urrah rahein hain...!
* that's a HUGE request in a language hopefully he'll understand...
Hi friend myownworld
Bibi gulbath aur behs wich eh te hunda eay; inan nu muzaq nain karna chaida; eh sanjeeda batcheet eh. Mera baba guru nanak nal bura piyar eh. wahe-guru allahu akbar
I have tolerance for them; they are my friends and brothers. I don't mind.
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Hey.. my best friends are Punjabi... I'm pretty sure you are asking him out on a date, aren't you?
Ah...Greek god....how did u know?? Nah... too much religious zeal for my liking....!
I'm not a theologian or anything, but I'm pretty sure Guru Nanak would kick someone's arse
yep. the disciple is far too tolerant I'm sure... it's actually killing me!
* hangs head low with shame at her lowly thoughts...
I can't help but notice, you are all about the "arse." Hmm, now what is all this punjabba/puntane/pudding talk?
by ethnic background and social interaction
Yeah, by the force of pattern recognition and social satisfaction...the arse gave light upon thee?
...fire, at times. I mentioned 'light' so you could see...
Yes, we all came from one fireball of unified ass; agreed! Ha-ha!
Praise be Uranus, the most common planet known to man.
Damn, that's an old joke I heard from the movie "E.T." at age 5.
At any rate, "Greek One" is firebombing ancient ass upon the inhabitants of his mythical arse invaders; how nice.
Hi friend Greek One
I understand that Alexander the Great took some families to his homeland; so many punjabi words are mixed up in that area of Europe.
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
why, u think I'm not good enough for him?? Even with my best butter chicken recipe??
samosas also have a way of bringing people together...
but i find kulfi far too phalic, especially when surved alongside gulab jamun
yikes! I'm done with indian food!
some greek salad please.....
edit: on second thoughts, noo please don't ruin that salad...!
@Paarsurrey, two questions:
1. What paarsurrey means ?
2. By any remote chance you posted info about this tomb of jesus ?
http://www.tombofjesus.com/index.php?op … ;Itemid=58
Anyone tried this search engine ? if you enter name of any holloywood celeb or model you'll get haram level of 3. No wonder this search engine went down to maintenance. LOL
THE BELIEF IN THE ANGELS
The Creator -God Allah YHWH controls the Universe through Angels; who obey His commands.
Angels are angels. They serve us all no matter creed, colour or country. Religous boundries are 'man-made', and therefore obselete in the eyes of the greater beings. I'm sure they'd be disappointed if we started (yet again) wars be they physical or on blogs about petty divides. They're here to help us all... Just embrace it and love it.
Angels were created at the dawn of the creation of the material universe. Hence they are referred to as morning stars.They were created by groups, each assigned certain task. There are nine groups of angels in the spirit world namely, Archangels, Angels,Thrones,Principalities,Powers,Virtues,Dominations, Cherubims, and Seraphim's. A great number of them fell with Lucifer and were cast down upon the earth. These are the evil spirits in the realm of darkness.
Hi I feel that Angels etc are around us no matter where we are. that is my 2 worth bobs in!
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