Martyrs at Lahore- Witnesses of Truth and Peace

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Hi friends
   
   One could see as to how much radical Muslims have deviated from the peaceful path of Quran/Islam/Muhammad. This massacre leaves about 94 Ahmadis dead and about as many seriously injured. Finding no support of terrorism from Quran/Islam/Muhammad these Terrorists have resorted to killing the Ahmadiyya Muslims; even the police in Pakistan was a silent spectator of the massacre. Ahmadis who have never taken the law into their hands; even in these incidents they have remained peaceful and calm and have not resorted to any violent processions or street protests.
   
   One may google for the details of the incident in which two Ahmadiyya mosques were attacked by the Radical Muslim Terrorists, while Ahmadis were listening to the Friday sermon. The terrorists attacked with hand grenades and machine-guns. One may see the details on the YouTube also.
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      zahra omerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      i dont think you should even call these terrorists muslims,which in fact they are not,and this was not just an attack on qadiyyanis specifically,we have witnessed similar attacks on shia and sunni gatherings,who ever did this only wants voilence and bloodshed in our country and doesnt care if its the qaddiyannis being killed or the shia or the sunnis.

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      (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Are you saying that Muslims are indeed killing other Muslims in the name of Islam?
      
      That would be the Islamic interpretation of peaceful?

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         Leptirelaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         PEOPLE ARE KILLING PEOPLE-- FULL STOP!

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      TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You guys are considered heritics Paas... what part of that was I not clear about.
      
      You do not practice Islam in an accepted mainstream form, Paas. What you preach is a dilutted twisting of the prophets words and intents, it is not alowed... you are not allowed to intruduce new things to Islam.
      
      I believe it is called, bad'a.

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         (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Christians always introduce new things to Christianity, they twist and dilute the bible to suit their agendas and beliefs. Is this allowed?
         
         The Pot is most certainly calling the Kettle black here.

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            Leptirelaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            ANYONE WHO USES RELIGION AS AN EXCUSE TO KILL or hurt other Species be it an animal or a human being  IS NOT A BELIEVER OF ANY KIND..
            
            Any right muslim in their head know the word 'ISLAM ' means peace and the Kur'an  does not encourage ANY KIND OF VIOLENCE..
            
            I have noo idea nor i want to know where these terrorists consider themselves a believer of any GOD!!
            I may not be an asian muslim, but I am proud to state MY RELIGION IS BETWEEN ME AND GOD AND I HAVE A VERY PEACEFUL relationship with him... I have learnt to love people of all kind whether muslim or not.
            
            AND AS GOES MY PERSONAL THOUGHT ON THIS----I MYSELF CAN INTRODUCE ANYTHING I PLEASE INTO MY RELIGION--WHAT GOES ON BETWEEN ME AND GOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYONE ELSE....
            
            But I DISPISE PEOPLE OR GROUPS CONSIDERING THEMSELVES 'THE muslims of all muslims' ... and do not consider any VIOLENT PERSON A MUSLIM....ESPECIALLY A TERRORIST .

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               (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               You are free to tell that to the believers who kill in the name of their gods. They are most certainly convinced they are believers.
               
               
               
               Yes, it does encourage violence, we've been down that road a number of times here already.
               
               
               
               That's nice, many people don't require religions or gods to tell them to be peaceful and love people. They just do it because they already know it's the right thing to do. Hence, they have no reasons to kill in the name of a god.
               
               
               
               That's fine, no one is going to criticize what you do being closed doors in the privacy of your home. Other believers might if they believe you're sinning. For example, Christians would be very upset with you if you were a homosexual, even though you did nothing to them.
               
               
               
               Have you noticed that you're using caps and also claim to "despise" other people or groups. That isn't very peaceful, is it?

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                  Leptirelaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I DESPISE GROUPS OR PEOPLE WHO INFLUENCE OR THRIVE IN VIOLENCE. And AS you say 'we know the right thing to do' without religion, well In my case It is my religion that disciplines me in my good doing.
                  
                  I respect anyone and everything------whether muslim or non...BUT IT IS MY VIEW AND MY DECISION AND MY LIFE AND CHOICE TO FEEL HOWEVER I WANT TOWARDS ANY EVIL SPIRIT---SUCH AS those who promote violence and those who use religion as an excuse for it.
                  
                  I understand using 'CAPS' may mean SHOUTING....heh but when I'M USING the BIG BUTTON its simply to 'highlight' what I feel strongly about.
                  
                  Nevertheless , My main point here was to say what I feel regarding my religion and how STERETYPICAL it is when people try to say religion is to blame for it or that religion encourages it... NONSENSE!
                  
                  I would not care if 'anyone' thought what I choose to do in my life is a sin, be it a christian or anyone else for that matter... We live our own lives and it is for us to determine and live with our own  doings and 'sins' ... as I said I have a relationship with GOD ... in my own way!!

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            Anesidoraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I don't think TMason was expressing his/her own opinions about how it should be.

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   manlypoetrymanposted 14 years ago

   "I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim". Hence...the fact that you always bring up controversial discussion points. That is not the way of someone with a peaceful spirit. Sorry Dude...Whatever it is your selling...I ain't buying!!!

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   Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

   I thought that Islam is so perfect in logical in nature that there was no need for it to spread through violence?
   
   Wasn't that the basis of all the "Peacefull spread of Islam in...." forum topics?

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      Leptirelaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      There is NO NEED - FOR A N Y O N E to spread violence...

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         Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Need aside, sadly that is what people do, and have done.

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            Leptirelaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            hmm....yes...and that's with and without religion... if you can understand my view....key word in your reply is 'sadly'
            
            Anyone in their right mind would disagree with violence...

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   Anesidoraposted 14 years ago

   What's interesting here is that christians will quickly forget they practiced the same deadly lack of tolerance towards each other only centuries ago, and still would today if we let them.

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      Leptirelaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      and ' we ' are...... Maybe I am wrong (anything is possible)
      but... are people not free to choose to believe whatever they want ?! ... now...I'm a little confused, Are we debating Violence in religion...or full stop religion... just because a minority degrades their religion and portrays it as a negative does not mean all believers are in the same ...
      I dont know...
      
      I will stop here people,,,,, respect to you all, but I will not carry on...I just wanted to say from my EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE.... I personally can't see religion as an influence on violence it is entirely up to people...
      
      People make a religion a problem not vice versa
      
      Good day y'all

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         Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah. Most people who follow religion say this. Guns kill people too.
         
         Take away the gun and I am a lot harder to kill.

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            Leptirelaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            hahahaah... I see that too...
            
            OHHH WHAT DO I KNOW!!!!! I HATE VIOLENCE and thats all i hate..
            fans kill each other at football games too ...what do we call that? hmm

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