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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
Second dummy-spit, this one was a type 2.
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Earnest I thought you said there were numerous dummy spits?
  
  They decline in number? Or did they merge?
  
  Seriously. I am no dummy. I serously respect all. I honestly have no quarrels with anyone. We all have our thoughts and feelings on all matters! There is no way that everyone can agree on everything!
  
  We are all human and that is one thing we all have in common.
  
  We will never agree on these things. And that is okay with me! I still love everyone!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You still can't work out what a dummy spit is?
  
  It's what a baby does sometimes when it doesn't get it's own way. It spits the dummy out of it's mouth. Maybe you prefer the more American Pacifier.
  When ever you present your tiny little half assed god here as "the way and the light and how to go to heaven" you can guarantee you will hear from myself and others here who don't confuse facts with fantasies no matter how often they are presented because they are self evident lies.
  Read the whole book.
  
  I do not like lies.
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ok! Funny!
  
  But I am nobody's sucker!
  
  LOL
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  In light of your new knowledge would you like to apologise to me now for the huge noise you made about me abusing you?
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol Earnest! I thought I already did!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I must have missed it.
  Anyone else see it?
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I apologized to you in another thread if I called you a name! LOL!!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am speaking of your rave about me calling you a name. That "name" not being a name but the common saying. "Dummy spit.
  I would like you to apologise for falsely accusing me of calling you names!
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  kimberlyslyricsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well I apologize, truly. Hope Others Do As Well!!!!!!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Kimberley!
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I apologize!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you.
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Anytime!
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  See there! We are both human! We both have empathy! Now why cant the rest of the world be that way?
  
  LOL!!!
  
  Peace treaty signed! We can now smoke the peace pipe!!!!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well I may fire up a joint then!
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL!! that's funny!! They say that stuff is medicinal! That must be why so many people smoke it! It takes away their pain!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yep! I use it for constant CNS pain.
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Caused by an injury?
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Caused by many injuries, but culminating in a spinal stenosis affecting the shield over the nerves where they exit the spine at L5 S1.
  
  I have lead a less than sheltered life.
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Have you had a fusion? That's pretty bad! I would say you are in some serious pain!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No fusion. Not the right way to deal with it in my case.
  
  I have good skills at handling pain emotionally which I learnt over two years at the Mendelssohn pain clinic.
  I am also lucky to have a high pain threshold apparently.
  
  If you met me you could not detect that I am in pain unless you knew me very well.
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well it's good you can handle it! I'm sure most would have a hard time dealing with that kind of pain! I had a close friend who had the fusion done! She was always in pain! Many times surgery makes it worse, as in her case! I know someone else who had it and did fine, but over time developed a lot of scar tissue.
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  Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And I apologize for THINKING it was an insult even though I said nothing about it.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Pcunix, are you being mean again? LOL.
  
  Now stop throwing fits and sit with your nose in the corner!
  
  I'm just kidding!
  
  Peace!!!
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  Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, seriously. I had no idea what a "dummy spit" was and thought he was insulting you. I am happy to learn that it was a reference to a pacifier.
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  marty1968posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Libby. I need your advice.
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  libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  whats the matter?
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "you can guarantee you will hear from myself and others here who don't confuse facts with fantasies" and theres the problem right there folks.
  
  these atheists are obligated if not inspired by their godlessness to put to death all christianity.. does this sound like "the thing you hate you will become"... omg this would be laughable if it weren't so chronically sick and psychologically messed up.
  
  just for the record jesus is the way the truth and the light and no man cometh to the father but by the son. I think i will just quote scripture from now on because nothing else seems to work.
  Lies come in many forms.. if we quote the bible truths we cannot lie, because god does not lie. you may interpret scripture wrongly and it becomes a lie, you are not a liar unless you do it intentionally. I think you interpret wrongly intentionally and constantly.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, remember your older post. Da debil gone dunnit.
  We are killing christians too now are we?
  
  No man comes to your pathetic fairy with anything. Just a figment of your terrified imagination.
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marty1968posted 14 years ago
I still love you all no matter what names you call me
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is someone calling you names?
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marty1968posted 14 years ago
hangin out. God bless you my friend
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  getitriteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Apparently, God likes obnoxious foolishness.
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CkhoffmanKposted 14 years ago
I didnt call anyone names.

I just simply stated that wide sweeping statements like the OP made were ridiculous and ignorant.

A fact is a fact.
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marty1968posted 14 years ago
Earnest I have seen your posts bashing God up one side and down the other. I really am concerned for you and I promise you that I will continue to pray earnestly that your eyes will one day be opened before it is too late.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You can save your prayers for the fools who believe them despite all the things in the world that scream at us daily that it is all bull*hit.
  
  The suffering of children, the hate and fear generated by religious wars, the stupidity of seeing something has been caused by prayer when it was just coincidence.
  
  You know god was too busy to feed even the christian children apparently, because he was busy finding some nut-jobs car keys fer gords sake!
  
  Nice priorities for a psychopath maybe.
  
  How much ego is being projected to believe that your prayers get answered while theirs self evidently do not.(The are still starving)
  
  That is megalomania, a mental condition that is outrageous in it's self indignant fantasy of superiority while having the thinking capacity of mud.
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  Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We aren't bashing any "god". We are bashing the ridiculous CONCEPT that any such thing could exist.
  
  Failing to understand that is common with theists.
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  cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  are you referring to the Christian God or ANY God (spiritual entity)?
  
  if so, why is it "ridiculous"?
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marty1968posted 14 years ago
Thats why God gave us the choice and ability to reach out to the hungry. Instead of complaining about it how about giving out some of the love that you you say you have and be an influence instead of a hinderance. I love ya brother and nothing you can say or do can change that because the love comes from Christ Himself
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Been where you are Marty. Religion makes these claims for prayer, they are glaringly untrue.
  Why would an omnipotent god have any trouble with the idea of saving a child from starvation. My family have sponsored poor children for years, but apparently an omnipotent god doesn't lift a finger.
  
  You would enlist his help looking after my spiritual health?
  
  I hope not. I don't need any help, I'm happy, know who I am, why I do what I do, why would anyone pray for me instead of praying for those children. And if you are praying for them well it ain't working!
  You have an argument going with your own logic here.
  Why don't you address the points I made instead just to give me a whole new experience!
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  children get a free ride to heaven. Perhaps the child would have had a far more miserable future on earth, so god in his mercy, took the child home. It is only because of sinful activity that there are so many people in the world many of them are in what we call third world countries. Are these the starving you are talking about? or is there one down your block in which case i suggest you might like to donate.
  
  really earnest consider the possibilities before you speak.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "Children get a free ride to heaven"
  
  I can't express how much this disgusts me.
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  sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Absolutely awful. They would rather let them die thinking they have a free trip to Heaven then help survive and love them because they are humans, they are children and they need love, nourishment and attention.
  
  It is so sad.
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You have it backwards and need glasses.
  I said this: "Perhaps the child would have had a far more miserable future on earth, so god in his mercy, took the child home".
  
  How will they get this nourishment if they are in a place of starving? lol kinda missed that point did ya? in all your vast wisdom about what is right and wrong.
  
  obviously this meat is too strong for you and yet you choose to discredit.
  its so sad
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you for clarifying.
  
  I feel sure many here will understand exactly how you think from your last post.
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  sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh yes, did you miss the point about loving them and feeding them and taking care of them instead of leaving them to die? But whateva, in one ear out the other.
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  In the beginning adam and eve sinned against god and were expelled from the lovely garden and wonderful lifestyle that god gave them and were to live the rest of their lives OUTSIDE that garden.
  And they had babies outside of that garden and their babies had babies and their babies had babies until you were born. And now because you are born everything must be different and those 'old' ways are wrong.
  You are not in a situation on earth because of a situation that you caused but by and because of a situation that you perpetuate. Mankind chooses their way and that is a rule of god. If God were to save every baby born in every man made situation, how do we know what kind of life they are going to have? Lets consider ethiopia
  "In 1990 the death rate was estimated at fifteen per 1,000 population (down from 18.1 per 1,000 in 1984). This also was a very high rate but typical of poor developing countries. The high death rate was a reflection of the low standard of living, poor health conditions, inadequate health facilities, and high rates of infant mortality (116 per 1,000 live births in 1990; 139 per 1,000 in 1984) and child mortality. Additional factors contributing to the high death rate include infectious diseases, poor sanitation, malnutrition, and food shortages. Children are even more vulnerable to such deprivations. In Ethiopia half of the total deaths involve children under five years of age. In addition, drought and famine in the 1980s, during which more than 7 million people needed food aid, interrupted the normal evolution of mortality and fertility and undoubtedly left many infants and children with stunted physical and mental capabilities. Life expectancy in 1990 was estimated at forty-nine years for males and fifty-two years for females".
  Do you see all the work god has to go through to do what you want. If all these babies live how would that impact the current problem? It would absolutely worsen it. Ethiopia is barely hanging in there also because of boundary lines which ended their nomadic lifestyle. So never judge god of being unfair when your answer may very well add more mayhem to the already bad soup.
  and to further Gods dilemma of help:
  "An investigation by the BBC has revealed that millions of dollars in famine relief aid money, including the money raised from the charity supergroup Band Aid and the Live Aid concert held by Bob Geldof, was "siphoned off" by Ethiopian rebels to buy weapons. One rebel said that at least US$ 95 million (£63 million) from — Western governments and private charities — was diverted into rebel coffers."
  And this is just one country.
  The alternative is God hovering over the earth in visible form (because you all want proof right?) and slapping everybodies hand who sins. Is there free will in that? Does that sound fair?
  I suggest you think thoroughly before you so easily try to discredit what i say.
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why cuz you had to work for it?
  Its not all about you earnest.
  
  i read you were raised catholic, now there's satans work for ya.
  Glad you're out of it now.
  
  So in all your loving ways you would rather see babies burning forever in the fires of hell than get a free ride home..
  you have no idea how much that disgusts me.
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  getitriteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why should we have to do His work? He is only pretending to be providing, while doing absolutely nothing! Why is your God doing exactly what an imaginary entity would do?
  
  Good question, however, that is not the premise of your assertion. Furthermore, your beliefs are a profound hinderance to knowledge, without which, you and I would still be scratching the ground for sustenance.
  
  Let me get this straight, so if you did not have Christ, you would be a despicable person because love only comes from Christ? What folly
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why should we do his work. lol. Its not his work. You want the scenario of God to nestle you in his loving arms and all your troubles go away. You want it without a price, you want it now and you want all his stuff on your terms. Well all god asks is repent and be saved. Doesn't cost money, easy enough to do.
  But if you don't want to do even that smallest of requests.
  
  To me, because i have done this small request of god, he is not imaginary.
  
  Nope there are geniuinely nice people who do not know christ. You would be nicer, and a few atheists i could name lol.. This is what god does, takes the nature of man and brings him into a rest and then transforms him/her into a holy person.. not just a nice person both need tweaks from the lord. A good set of nice consequences bring about niceness in a person but as soon as the nice set is gone the person becomes angry, rough. Such is the example of ranters in hubpages.. nice to their children but not so nice to christians. Their human good natures fall apart if conditions are not perfect to sustain their human niceness.
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Kangaroo_Jaseposted 14 years ago
Why is it that I come and comb through these religious threads, I read and read and read and STILL cannot find a bloody VB beer!!!!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Here ya go Kanga me old china, I'm actually too crook to even drink my medicine!
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  Kangaroo_Jaseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Stone the crows, ya look after me well Earnest, remind me to get down the local and bring yer back a steamin hot bangers and mash, that'll fix yer right up, and another VB, no medicine like the VIC
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you kanga. The good doctor is in.
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Speaking of VB, have you two seen the latest commercial for it? I don't get it, please explain?
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I haven't seen it, I only get to watch fox classics like Dora the explorer on TV. I have a bunch of small TV critics here who run the show.
  I will look for it now though, thanks for the heads up Jewels.
  The beer commercials have generally been clever and funny.
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think it has something to do with the Sensitive New Age Guy, but it looks a tad skewed. Maybe it's a man thing?
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'll get back to you Jewels, you may be right, I think the ads for beer in Australia have been targeting males.
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  Kangaroo_Jaseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  S.N.A.G isn't that just another bunch of words - meaning, girly-man?
  
  Beer should target men, not males, but this is an entire other discussion
  
  Haven't seen the commercial myself yet Jewel.
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Girly Man! - I think you're right Jase - this ad has sort of taken the feeling man and put him into marshmallow juice. But I could totally be getting it wrong. I'm usually fairly perceptive, but this one - I think the public relations person is a bit too much into abstract.
  
  Ahhh - found it. And it is apparently a push for men to stop being SNAGS and become real men. Funny, cause this is the full ad via youtube, but you only get snippets of it and it doesn't pass very well! The comments helped me get it straight. DOH!
  
  Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i08jbz4w … ature=fvsr
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  Kangaroo_Jaseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Thankyou Jewels, love it, shows the power of the VIC!!!!!!!!!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is the worst beer ad I have ever seen. It is about as good as Aussie beer. Real men don't drink that stuff, we drink Marstons Pedigree.
  
  This is a much more sensible argument than the nonsense the OP started.
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  Kangaroo_Jaseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  My actual preference is for a Crown Lager, and will have a VB when I feel like an 'everymans' drink. Marstons Pedigree I have had and we can get it here in Aussieland, and it indeed is not a bad drop at all Mark.
  
  When it comes to beer, there is no arguments only solutions
  
  Now I will have to float back to the beginning to re-read what the OP was
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I wouldn't bother - just another relionist starting a fight. I must admit - Aussie beer is better than the American stuff. The French have no clue and - as I live in France am sorely deprived. Get up towards Belgium and you are talking. I have never tries either of those you mentioned. But - lets face it - a bad beer is better than no beer at all. Just be sure and drink it really cold.
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  Kangaroo_Jaseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Aye,
  
  Absolutely Mark, as it may be a beer still, yet not worth drinking, unless it is cold.
  
  I would doubt VB (Victoria Bitter) being available in France, yet Crown Lager is a possibility (if any Australian made beer is sold in France).
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I have not looked - but I will do. There are plenty of Aussies here working the boats and there is an Australian pub in Antibes. But - they have a massive Fosters sign outside - and I know that stuff is not worth drinking.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks jewels. A bit too cringe inducing for me, but pretty funny!
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skyfireposted 14 years ago
Plenty of reasons.

Look at this image, this is how our earth looks from outside the solar system. You can guess the complexity of the universe from this.

Reason 1: Why on earth (err universe) will any creator who created this universe will waste his/her time to form religion and will ask to kill non-believers ?

Reason 2: There is no reason to love/hate/play with creations, when there is capability to create plenty of similar creations.

Reason 3: Son of god as per bible gets screwed on cross shows flaw in the story of bible. After looking at the pale blue dot image, do you think such vast universe has creator who has such lame son ?

Reason 4: Muhammad in islam asking for eradicating non-believers(that includes other religions) shows the biggest flaw in religion. Why creator will even waste his time killing other religion which his own creation formed ? Any benefit ?

Reason 5: Spiritual religions fail because their inability to give proof for spirits. But then again they do have many stories around spirits. So isn't it ridiculous that they're holding onto belief but don't take pain to prove the existence of spirit ?

And reasons like this goes on...
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why does this remind me of Dr. Seuss story "Horton Hears a Who?"
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  paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This is wrong; Quran does not support it. It is understanding the text of the verse of Quran out of its context. Please be rational and don't be prejudiced.
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  skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Really ? So why there is no respect for other religion in quran and in behaviors of any islamic ? Same goes their respect towards non-believers ? I mean is creator a BS trying to prove his existence towards non-believers by writing such verses and creating satan to back the proof just in case there are doubts ?
  
  Islam has more prejudice and irrationality than anything on this planet.
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skyfireposted 14 years ago
You like Seuss ?
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. Great imagination!
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skyfireposted 14 years ago
Green Eggs and Ham is my fav !
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I didn't take you for a Dr. Seuss man? Sky, you impress me more each day! lol
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  skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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marty1968posted 14 years ago
Is your site working?
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marty1968posted 14 years ago
Ihad never heard of that either til now
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  libby1970posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Did know what?
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
The only excuse religionists have for their hate filled tomes is context.

Bible bashers use the same weak overused excuse all the time too.
The problem is the hate part is most of the book with both.

Just a little hard to swallow, like a camel for example.
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  impossible
  but there's the evidence
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The point is, it is a pile of psychotic crap.
  
  Here's an exercise.
  Read the OT while looking up first psychotic (see god in OT) then crap (see dog)
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol you are so behind the times.
  1,750,000 abortions a year in the United States alone!
  and you are mad at god for killin a few hundred thousand people not even of your race or your generation, 3000 yrs ago, murderers, plunderers, baby sacrificers.
  Here you go earnest.. the worshipers of baal threw their children into huge fires and you sympathise with them! The children of god killed animals and ate it for food and they killed baby killers and you boo hoo for the baby killers...
  nice management.
  you have no idea how much this disgusts me.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You have no idea how desperate and psychotic that sounds to me.
  
  How did abortion enter the configuration?
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Stop talking about me Earnest!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Evening klara! It is early evening where you are I think.
  9.25am the next day here! That why I'm always ahead!
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. You're also getting older at a faster rate than me.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No I'm not! the same rate, just earlier.
  It's bloody cold here this morning.
  That should retard the aging a bit.
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, and it's like 150% humidity here so there is no point in taking a shower. You just have to walk outside... stretch.... and you're ready to go!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your humidity is as bad as Darwins!
  
  I lived in Darwin for 2 years. I couldn't hack a third wet season.
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Right now I can't see out my window because it's wet (it's not raining). Over here, the mosquitoes are your best friends. Yahk!!!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They used to spray poison every night in the wet season in Darwin.
  I do not like mosquitoes at all. I have seen one mosquito so far this year so I killed her.
  Mosquitoes, ants and houseflys, the only living thing I kill.
  All my other little mates get moved if they get in my way.
  
  I always feel really bad about the ants.
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W083nSzx … re=related
  
  It will take just a minute. You have to watch it!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I did. Funny guy!
  He has a sense of humour. Very rare!
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Real spiritual people do have a sense of humour and won't get upset if others find them a bit looney.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree.
  I get rid of 3 terrorists in about half an hour. Their Dad is picking them up and taking them for the day!
  
  No more grandpa wrecking! Yay!
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  skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  really ?
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  yep...
  God is merciful and quite loving
  no doubt about it.
  he gave a son, course he got him back, but can you imagine going through all that just to have people call you names, deny your existence and label you a sky fairy!
  That's love
  nobody asked God to do that.
  He did it out of love.
  didn't need any baby sacrifices.
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skyfireposted 14 years ago
When we catch them on few things then it becomes out of context or it requires faith . I mean some facts in this universe requires faith if not they're out of context
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Elizabeth2010posted 14 years ago
Hmmm. The truth is it is hard to prove! However one can assume it cant be disproved either! A belief in anything you cant see requires faith! Some chose to take that faith and believe while others chose to believe god doesn't exist!

My choice is my chioce! your choice is your choice!

I believe it is a christian's obligation to say the truth! If a christain doesn't say the truth they are in sin themselves for allowing a brother to continue in sin without letting them know the err of his or her ways!

Such as going against the nuture of sex! I was reading a post somewhere a few minutes ago, and was going to post in it... but couldn't find it! oh well. My opinion... I seen where some posters say that "homesexual" was a word that could not be translated for they didnt even know the word back then... that may be all true-however, it says if a man lay with mankind as a woman.... that clearly is not using the word homosexual... it's saying the definition of homosexual... but not using the word! They may not have known the word but they surely knew the act! Because Sodom and Gamora was destroyed on this same pretense! Just because they couldn't translate the "word" doesn't mean they didn't know what the action was... we clearly see by "man lay with mankind as a woman"! That is clearly, without deviation, the definition of homosexual!

To agree with sin is wrong! I will stand for what is right no matter what! Just because the entire world agrees with this act doesn't make it right! God said to love the sinner but hate the sin! I love the person but i hate the sin they commit!

I believe Christians who pat others on the back and say "God loves you" are doing wrong! You should very well tell them God loves them... but you should also say but you are in the wrong!

It's just like a child. You love them, yet you still tell them when they do wrong! It's out of love!

And I've watched people say God is a sick god because he allows this or that BlAH BLAH BLAH! It's not God's fault that people turn their backs on the very one who created them! He was more "involved" when people openly claimed him as their God! Today we have people cursing him openly! Going against nature in sexual acts! And just denying he even exists!

And yes it's against nature folks! I've never seen a male lion climb on top of another male lion! Animals seem to know more about sex than we do! I watch the discovery channel quite a bit and hundreds of times I've seen animals mating... yet for some odd reason I've yet to see two animals of the same sex mate! Do you know why? Because animals use their "animal instincts"! They have a natural drive given by God to mate with the oposite sex! We humans are the only ones who change nature to suit our own desires!

It's an abomination to God people! You can believe it or not! If I didnt care about you, I wouldn't tell you! Because I see how some in here just go after those who speak the truth! Sadly, there will even be so called "christians" who will bash me because I speak the word of God and don't agree with homosexuality! It is the word of God! Believe what you want! It's Bible!

God still loves you! And the great thing about God is he will forgive you, even for homosexuality!

I don't blame God for turning his back on this world! So say what you want! People are cruel, mean, murderous, blasphemers, liars, cheaters, thiefs, backstabbers, money-hungry, selfish, and self centered!
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
Just to make one point. A religionist has no access to any truth outside their belief. The big filter is ON.
Goddunnit.

Ignorance personified.
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't need any truth oustide of my belief. My belief is based on Jesus. He is my filter.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Exactly!
  You should analyse that a bit.
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I do, everyday Earnestshub, everyday!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How do you accomplish examining your beliefs with the filter on?
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Because, the filter is what helps me analyse the word. If not for the filter I would not know anything!
  
  It's like a water filtering system.., it makes the water pure!
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  your filter sucks. Why does our filter limit us but your filter not limit you?
  
  because you are open to more diverse thoughts.. that profit nothing.
  
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Says who? YOU???
  
  Did I say your filter limits you? NO< you said that yourself!
  
  My thoughts profit nothing to you, sure, I will go with that! Because your mind is closed off to "self"!
  
  I have faith in God and myself. You have faith in that God doesn't exist. That is your faith! I will go with my faith as it profits me quite a bit! Your faith promises you "self" awareness! I already knew myself existed. So I was one step ahead of you on that one!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL at how you show love.
  
  Might want to change your avatar. And you are attacking another Kristian who beleebs the nonsense you beleeb.
  
  I can see you are not a big fan of self awareness, but a little introspection goes a long way. You might also want to ask yourself why you joined a site specifically to verbally abuse people who do not believe what you believe. I know this is a Christian thing because you do not respect anyone else, but still - it tends to cause conflicts rather than convince anyone you love them. Dear me.
  
  One step ahead.
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Like you do respect others beliefs Mark? I've read your posts! You attack all who don't believe your way! This is love?
  
  I am not attacking anyone, thank you! I do not agree with everyone, even if they are chiristian! Not all christians believe the same way! And I debate! I don't attack like you!
  
  I believe we should all be true to our belief!
  
  You should ask yourself the same question Mark! You seen to find your way through to threads associated with "christians" and put your two cents in even if it means attacking others as you just did!
  
  Truthfully! I believe most christian's try to be civilized and loving... but people such as you tend to attack others and then when they say something back, they've attacked you! How funny! And "self" centered!
  
  I love you anways! It's nice seeing how your "self" works!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ah - see the difference here? I am not claiming to love everyone and respect their beliefs.
  
  I understand exactly why I have a problem with christians. You have just reminded me.
  
  If you are showing me love - then please stop. I have had enough of that sort of "love." Thanks.
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You can do whatever you want! That is your business!
  
  I respect people's beliefs! It doesn't mean I have to agree with them or ignore stupid comments either!
  
  Dont' worry! I don't force my love upon anyone!
  
  And I could care less if you have a problem with Christians! That is your problem not mine!
  
  If you spend your life being a hater of the majority of the population, that is your business!
  
  Peace and bye!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  A hater? I see. How can you respect my beliefs yet think I am making stupid comments? All you are really doing is reinforcing how hate filled your religion is.
  
  Well done - thanks. I do love it when a religionist shows what they really mean by "love and respect."
  
  If me hating liars is not your problem - why have you responded to me in this fashion? I see you joined this site specifically to attack those who do not believe in god. How is that showing love?
  
  Why have you come to an atheist discussion thread just to attack other people's opinions if you "respect" them?
  
  Seriously - try a little introspection.How much hatred can you christians spread?
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You commented to me, not the other way around! If someone talks to me, I talk back!
  
  I believe the thread stated, Athiest are misguided, don't you agree? Or something to that degree! So it was asked a question and here I am!
  
  Why do you go to Christian discussion threads? why do you bash christians?
  
  I dont have to agree with things Mark! And, as a matter of fact, where I am from it's a free country to state freedom of speech! You have a right and so do I! Just because you have a twisted idea of "christianity" doesn't make it right!
  
  I dont come here to specifally attack those who do not believe in God! I come here to say my peace just like you! It seems to me you have a problem with anyone who doens't believe your way!
  
  Say what you want! I have every right to say how I feel as well!
  
  You just keep saying the same old stuff over and over! I've read your stuff! It's the same stuff over and over... just reworded! It's nothing new!
  
  So the question on this thread was started by a christian, it says "Athiest are misguided" do you agree? Well did you answer the qustion or are you just here to bother those who did?????
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, you see, the difference between me and you is: I can hate your comments. I can hate your ways. I can hate the evil words you speak. Yet i can still love you!
  
  Big difference! Yet you can't understand that simple logic!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It is not logic. I suggest a decent dictionary if you do not know what that word means. The Oxford English is excellent.
  
  You do not love me. Please stop lying to me - I am not stupid and I already told you I do not want the type of love you are forcing upon me.
  Thanks.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I see you did not answer my questions. Interesting. No - I do not think atheists are misguided. I think people like yourself who promote hate and call it love are misguided.
  
  I have not read much of your stuff, but the little I have is merely hatred of anyone who does not believe as you do. The fact that you call this "respect" is pretty funny, but aptly demonstrates why I think you are misguided. I also see you are here solely to push your hate filled religion. This is also misguided and will have the opposite effect to the one you claim to intend.
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It doesn't matter Mark!! I dont' have anything to read! I'm new to the site! So you wont find many posts from me! I was here a long while ago, under a different name and got banned! I'm back now!
  
  It seems to me you are very bitter towards people who believe in God! why is that? It seems you need some emotional support!
  
  why be bitter to every christian? I dont think every christian you come across is a hater! most of the ones I know are good people who help others in the community! some are bad, just as in any thing! And the same can be said for atheists... good and bad in that group as well!
  
  so why hate all of them? doesnt make any sense to me!!! I dont hate you, or any atheist as you think! I have no reason to hate anyone I've never met!
  
  Just makes no sense to me! It's sort of childish!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I explained why. I see you cannot be bothered to read anything I wrote. You do not answer my questions and now think that what I think is childish. And claim that this is "respect."
  
  I am not surprised you were permanently banned from the site, but creating a new account to get around that ban that is not ethical. Is it?
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Telling someone they are being childish is not disrespectful! It's being truthful!
  
  I was not permanently banned. I was banned for three days and never came back after the ban was lifted! Thank you!
  
  It's simple. I was drug through the mud by nonbelievers! I said no ill words back! I made one remark to a remark made to me first and was banned! That is the jest of my story!
  
  Mark, again, you seem to be a big hater of christians and believers of God. why? Do you hate people who don't believe as you? Why? To hate someone because of their religious beliefs is a limited train of thought! We have every right to our belief just as you! To the majority of people, your way of thinking is more skewed than mine! Just a thought!
  
  bye. Going to bed!
  
  I leave in peace! You can put me down tomorrow if you so wish!
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  Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Perhaps, you are unable to see that what you are trying to explain to Mark in regards to your way of thinking is almost the same thing Mark is trying to explain to you.
  
  Mark doesn't hate you as a person, he only despises your religion in the same way you don't hate Mark as a person, but instead hate his "comments, ways and evil words."
  
  To use your own words, "Big difference!"
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  Elizabeth2010posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Absolutely Beelzedad! I knew this! But he will reply directly to someone, then ask why they are talking to him. Then he will make personal attacks... such as someone needs a dictionary. I have a degree! I do not need a dictionary! Why ask someone why they are posting in this thread... when it is for anyone??? Someone can ask a question and ask everyone for their thoughts! You give your thoughts and it starts an attack!
  
  So what if people don't agree on religion or atheist beliefs! That doesn't mean we should attack each other! But the fact is we are all human and when someone like Mark attacks us or our beliefs, we defend ourself! It's not like I think I could ever change someone's beliefs! But it seems they think they can belittle us to the point that we will change ours!
  
  No offense but everybody should be able to give their thoughts without being told their beliefs are stupid! Everybody thinks their beliefs are right!
  
  It's one thing to hate religion! But... some seem to hate the very person because they have a belief that is against their own!
  
  They say the bible is full of hate and murder...but look at how they act! They do not act much better! It seems hate consumes some people!
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  Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But, he doesn't "hate the very person" as you say he does.
  
  I would ask you then to produce anything Mark has said where he claims to hate YOU personally?
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  thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This is an atheist thread
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qwarkposted 14 years ago
C'mon! What the hell is an atheist!? :-(
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  a believer in God in the fox hole and front lines just before a battle and on their death bed in hospital and just before that semi hits em, and... and... and...
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  Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Funny how you stated in another thread that Christians are always right...
  
  http://www.ffrf.org/outreach/atheists-in-foxholes/
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I cannot call this proof. It is inference, speculation and at best just convenient.
  The membership of the Freedom From Religion Foundation is probably a bias institution.
  "It’s time to dispel one of this nation’s greatest myths . . . There are indeed many atheists in foxholes". So how did they know this? Were they there at the moments of their dyings? Surely you can see the redundancy in a claim of this magnitude. I know you want to believe it and so do I for whatever it is worth but i can't merely take the word of some anti bible group who erects a statue and claims they know the last thoughts of these dead men.
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  Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL!!!
  
  LOL even louder!!!
  
  It never even occurred to you that those men lived to tell about it. Funny how hard facts don't even phase the believer.
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  thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There have been plenty of Atheists who died at religious hands because hety refused to sucumb to religious doctrine.
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prettydarkhorseposted 14 years ago
atheists are in denial, smiles
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Pretty: Can't be. There are no atheists.
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  prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi quark, if there are atheists, there are theists (is theist even a word?) like yin and yang perhaps
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  Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, Theist is a word. Theism is a belief structure, usually based upon a supreme being. A -theism is a lack of a belief structure based on a supreme being, like A-sexual repro is acheived by other means than sex. Some say the the simple asexual organisms are related to atheists in more than one way.
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Pretty: There are neither. There are those who claim to be but until this god thing can be defined in fact rather than opinion and conjecture, all those who claim to be theists or atheists have no basis for their claim other than opinion and conjecture...ergo there are no theists of atheists, only those who havaen't done their homework and claim to be.
  I include you in this answer Druid.
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  prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi quark, so we are both opinionated? smiles
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Pretty" Of course! There are no absolutes except "absolute" itself. If you can produce in any monotheistic scripture describing this god thing in any form other than conjecture and opinion ( I didnt ask for proofs of this god thing) I'd like you to produce them for me and I'll be perfectly willing to consider them.
  If you can't do that, then my comments on there being no atheists...stands.
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  Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Change Einstein's equation to G=MC2
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Druid: try that again, sensibly, and I'll respond...maybe...lol..
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  Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What I said, I stand by, mainly definitions which are found in the dictionary. Theists and Atheists do exist (What planet are you from?) Atheists don't believe in God, Theists do. Pretty simple. Are you semi-literate? You sound like an atheist, but had you sounded undecided, I would have assumed your AGNOSTICISM. Got your dictionary? Me, I'm more of a DISESTABLISHMENTARIANIST.
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Druid: there is no dictionary definion of this god thing existing in any form but conjecture and opinion.
  My stance remains. There are no atheists only those who claim to be the improbable.
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qwarkposted 14 years ago
I'm heading for the gym...lets continue this in about an hour or so.
ttyl
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  qwark, that's a lot of hours in the gym. You need to give us some eye-candy and post a picture of your muscles! LOL
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hahahaha...Pretty and Klara, 60+ yr old "eye candy" ain't nuthin' to behold...but there was a day! oh yeh! lolol :-)
  Have fun at "uncle Wallys!" ttyl
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Once eye-candy, always eye-candy qwark! Own it! lol
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'd love to but my damned mirror won't lie!
  Mirror mirror on the wall who's the "fairest" guy of all?
  The image in the mirror takes a bite outa the apple, sticks out it's tounge and growls:
  "twas once you, my old stud, but lookin' at ya now? yer just an old "dud...Sorry but the mirror don't lie, it said with a knowing sigh.."
  Someday I'm gonna break that damned mirror! lol
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm getting old too... don't feel bad
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Klara: naw, I don't feel bad, just ain't as inspired to lose the "duds" anymore...lol
  Yer just a "kid!"
  My 96 yr old friend says that to me!...lol
  It's all in the mind, I know, but i keep tellin' this damned mirror to "zip" it when I get up in the AM and peer into it for a shave...so far it's been obedient...lol it's life depends on it...lol
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You know that picture of Bigfoot walking in the Everglades?
  That's me in the morning before having my coffee.
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  DAmn Klara:...We're twins! lol
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  if yer mirror ever gets "mouthy" about how ya look in the AM, throw yer shaving mug at it....teach it a lesson..OK?
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How did you know I have a shaving mug?!
  
  Is my mustache showing?
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  All we "bigfoots" shave! I bought a set of clippers. I get itchy zits when I shave too close....you? I was using clearasil to clear 'em up...but hell who cares if we "bigfeet" have a little stubble? ...eh? :-)
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  klarawieckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I will make a psychic prediction right now...
  someone will read your post and get inspired to write a hub about Bigfoot shaving paraphernalia.
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hahaha...I'll put $ on it....too funny! :-)
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qwarkposted 14 years ago
ok...back from the gym. What? No left hooks? right crosses? left jabs?..be danged! lol :-)
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  prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  punch... you like quark?? hmm I am tired of debating about this GOD thing, I just want to say Hi, hope you did well at the gym??
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Pretty: I do too! I just know so much about it's history and evolution that some comments which intrigue me have to be answered. But, in the main, I'm with you to "debate" religion is the activity of a fool...so I never do. I just offer responses.
  Good workout! thanks for asking.
  I go for about 1 1/2 hours everyday. Keeps the "ole boy" able to get up in the AM dress himself without help...get into my motorized wheelchair and move about the house..... lolol :-)
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  prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hmm, never too old quark, just age challenged that's it, Good workout. I think you got lots of mind exercise already here with your threads, smile again. Gotta go to Walmart, talk to you later!!
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skyfireposted 14 years ago
Emotional support ?In that case, every believer becomes a psycopath. Why non-believers require emotional support ? Is faith gets trashed when facts affect emotional state of the believers.
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paarsurreyposted 14 years ago
Is it not possible not to deride and ridicule others? Only to stick to one's argument and if others don't understand it, try another arguments or to rephrase your arguments.This will be a humane approach and a meaningful discussion would ensue.
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  Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not when you are making ridiculous claims about supernatural beings, no, it isn't possible not to have disrespect for that.
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  Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  When your argument is riddled with logical fallacies, then no meaningful discussion will ever ensue.
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qwarkposted 14 years ago
Why do ya'll rattle on when I told ya there's no such thing as an atheist...my goodness! Hard heads!
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use."
-- Galileo Galilei
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  hanging outposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  not to forego it but to redirect it.
  the making of the atomic bomb would not have occured in the garden of eden but solar panel power would be a norm, for example.
  
  Don't you dare tell me God doesn't believe in Solar Power LOL
  
  I have the t-shirt
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