Do you believe in Omens?

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   IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years ago

   Do you believe in Omens? 
   
   Like for example, "Things happen in threes...."  Do they really?  Is this an example of how omens are to be revered?

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      ralwusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I have witnessed that more than once with deaths in my own family. Just this last May, my eldest sister died, 2 weeks later our nephew died, then just a month later our great-nephew died.

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         IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Working in a hospital, I see a lot of tragedies.  Which often do occur in 3's.  Someone will die on the table, and the next thing you know two more have passed post-op.  It can be eerie.

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Essentially, what you're saying is that each and every day, people die in post-op only in 3's?
            
            Or, maybe it's just that you focus on 3's and ignore the times people die in 1's, 2's, 4's, etc. because of the superstition surrounding events occurring in 3's?
            
            

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               IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Dying on the surgical table isn't post-op.  Secondly if you would have read some of the other posts, and not just mine ( which seems like you are purposely stalking me only- which I will report) you would read where I've virtually tackled this topic with someone else already.

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                  Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  But, YOU said "post-op" you didn't say "surgical table"
                  
                  
                  
                  You've got to be joking. Disagreeing with you is stalking???

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   IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years ago

   So no one believes crossing a black cat is bad luck, or that a rabbit foot is considered lucky?  That surprises me.

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      Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It surprises you that people actually don't believe in superstitions? 

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         Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I agree that superstitions are different than omens.
         
         If you see the sky getting dark during daylight hours it would be an omen of a coming storm.

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            IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I view superstitions as a derivative from the meaning of omens.

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               Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Have you ever heard the saying red skys at night sailors delight?
               
               I find it true that when there is a bright red sunset the next days weather is usually mild.
               
               Superstition or Omen?

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                  IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Well you believe it is telling you of future events right?  That's considered an Omen.
                  
                  It's fried eggs, or is it over easy?  I mean...., it could be one in the same.  But the "oldest and root" word of the two; is Omen.

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                  Druid Dudeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  An ominous warning can be in your mailbox. A superstitious warning could too, but, I'll pay the electric bill, because, regardless of superstition, an ominous warning can come true. The buzzer proclaimed ominously that the plane was out of FUEL!!!

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                     IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Great explanation.

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               Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               A superstition is considered an irrational belief arising from ignorance or fear while an omen is considered a sign of something to happen.
               
               Arthur Fontes offered the darkened sky resulting from an oncoming storm as an example, yet that is not a superstition, but more of an observation.
               
               Superstitions, by their very definition, have nothing to do with observations as they are irrational beliefs arising from ignorance or fear, hence it would appear that superstitions may be a derivative of something else, and for the most part appear to be derivatives of religions.

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                  IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Alrighty then........
                  
                  
                  
                  Omens and Superstitions are one in the same to me.  One in the modern form now has bared new meaning.  Ok.  Now what? 
                  
                  
                  It's semantics. 
                  
                  However, whether someone believes that crossroads are the best place for black magic or not, is entirely different matter.  I would like to discuss that.  You might want to quote other people, if you want to chat about semantics.  As you can tell, it isn't my thing.

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                     Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Perhaps, a dictionary is in order.
                     
                     
                     
                     Seems more of a misunderstanding of definitions, kind of like the misunderstanding you had between secular and separate.  
                     
                     
                     
                     Feel free to discuss irrational beliefs. No one is stopping you. That's what this forum is all about. 

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                        IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Oh I cannot stop laughing from your last post over in the angel forum.  Oh your a funny fella.
                        
                        Okay now, lets get serious.
                        Okay I'm ready now.
                        
                        People have differences of opinions about terminology all day, everyday, 365 days a year.  Big deal.  IT's SEMANTICS!!!  Lighten up.  I don't really care about your personal definition of the word or any term for that matter.  Big deal.  It is nothing personal.  I don't like to debate semantics. 
                        
                        It is my belief that it does no good, and serves no purpose, and my "meaning of life" deems it to be a waste my breath, if I were to argue or start debating semantics with you.  Big deal!  Again, it is what it is.  Get over it.  There are plenty of people who like to argue that kind of stuff.  I'm not one of them.
                        
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                        With that all said and understood hopefully, I do like what you said here, "Feel free to discuss irrational beliefs. No one is stopping you. That's what this forum is all about."  I find that something to debate is my meaning.
                        
                        First of all: I wasn't aware that YOU were HubPages. 
                        Secondly: I wasn't aware that I needed YOUR permission to discuss something in the forums.
                        Third: Well now that we know, thank you for the permission.  I'm much relieved!

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                           Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           I'm glad you find me humorous, even when I'm not trying. Of course, that says more about you than me.
                           
                           
                           
                           Many often claim semantics when they don't have a grasp of the English language.
                           
                           
                           
                           I never offer personal definitions of words that are already clearly defined.  I can only conclude you don't care about using correct definitions.
                           
                           
                           
                           I would agree with you, if in fact you were actually debating semantics. But, like you say, it is what it is.

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                  Druid Dudeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Sorry, Beelz. Little wordy.

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Perhaps, but I wouldn't use the term 'omen' in that context.
            
            As well, the link in the OP and the comments there were referring to superstitious beliefs.

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         IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yes.  And,?????

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   Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago

   I do believe in Omens.  Although I would call it an awereness of one's surroundings.

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   kirstenblogposted 13 years ago

   I only go for the good luck omens or whatever mostly cause I always welcome more good luck. No black cat has ever brought bad luck thinking this way (good thing too as my kitty visitor is a black one, she visits everyone on my block).

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   paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

   Do you believe in Omens?
   
   It has no reality; it is simply being superstitious.

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   alternate poetposted 13 years ago

   Things happening in threes is a partly a mathematical result of how we think about doing anything.  Every action has a  beginning a middle and an end.  It is primary way of connectiong things 'as we see them' - and fractals (I believe) work on the mathemetical progression of threes, but I am not going to look it up for this.  Because it is our perception just means we are looking for it - the three deaths on the table is just how they are seen, over a period of time there are huge numbers and they will come in one's, two's three's and so on - we just note the three's.
   
   Omens specifically are generated by looking for some kind of guidance when we don't know what to do next. If three crows flying overhead mean go south when you are looking for 'guidance' it just means you don't notice all the many different numbers that fly over you every day - until you look.  To believe itmeans something you would have to believe in pre-destination in one of its guises.

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   IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years ago

   That's a very common sense approach.  I understand what your saying.  But I do think there are those instances that still need to be looked at.

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   SomewayOuttaHereposted 13 years ago

   ...that 'things happening in 3's comes to mind for me'...i don't like it...unless of course it is good stuff.

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      IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Did you get a chance to read what AlternatePoet wrote in the midst of the mayhem?  I found it very interesting at least.  They brought up the point that the 3's, might be a mathematical thought process natural to human beings.

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         SomewayOuttaHereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         yea...i did...it's more on emotional level when the 3's are very close in timing, and close to the heart, etc....like Rawlus' post....the intellectual take on it makes sense.

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   IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years ago

   It is more than disagreeing with me.  For the last two days, you've been obsessed with my posts.  And my posts only.
   
   I'm done with you following me around, and being antagonistic.  We disagree, fine.  If that is all it is, then this is no big deal now is it? 
   
   
   If your stalking me is as innocence as YOU claim it to be, Hubpages well see it as such I'm sure. 
   
   But I'm tired of you picking fights with me, to pick fights.  I'm tired of you following me around.  If I wanted a pet puppy, I'd go out and get one.  However, I don't want one.
   
   
   By the way, thanks alot for turning this post into mayhem yet again.  You like highjacking threads for your own selfish purposes don't you?  Well......, that's against the rules also. 
   
   It's not all about you Beezie.

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    IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years ago

    I wonder if it is our natural instinct to want to perceive it as an Omen?  Although, many scholars believe that humans don't have natural instincts.  However, I believe that we do. 
    
    I wonder if there is some truth to the idea that humans have a natural instinct "to want" or "to believe," like a built in coping mechanism perhaps.

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       alternate poetposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Intimate - We do much much more than that - to operate every day we 'believe' a million things, like the stairs will be outside the door when you open it, the bus will come to a specific point etc - nothing is actually rock solid certain but we 'believe' in some things completely.  When we come home and look into our room, we don't 'see' them, we bring up the picture of the room from memory, that is how we see any tiny thing that has moved or changed, then we start recording what we see.  It is all only to do with information processing - even deja vu (I read in the Science Journal) is where the timing of our thinking goes out, and our (auto)memory kicks in a millisecond late and gets behind what we are actually seeing - so we are seeing what we remember a millisecond before.
       
       Most, if not all, 'strange' stuff has to do with the way the mind, eyes and other senses 'work' mechanically or electrically.

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    paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

    Do you believe in Omens?
    
    It has no reality; it is simply being superstitious and treading on the part of devolution in this age of scientific advancement.

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    paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

    "an omen is considered a sign of something to happen"
    
    of course without any scientific basis or without any clear Revelation basis; hence it is simply superstition.

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       IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Or is the superstition an omen?

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