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Outside of religion what hope is there?

  1. profile image54
    haj3396posted 7 years ago

    None, So the conclusion is fine the right religion.

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      More hope than with the existence of religion continuing on. lol

      1. profile image54
        haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        you did not answer the question

        1. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Actually, it did answer the question. You just didn't understand it. lol

    2. skyfire profile image74
      skyfireposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      With religion you have more chances of typo, so find better browser with spellchecker.

    3. waynet profile image74
      waynetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      There's more hope than all this turd in the bible for me anyway.

      The Bible is a good read if you don't take it too seriously as most of the stories are inspiring to create new ones from but that is all.

      Religion is just a load of pants that continues to fester with a stain of wee and a dash of poo.

  2. Mark Ewbie profile image88
    Mark Ewbieposted 7 years ago

    There's a hope you might slow down the questions a little.  I can't take it all in.  I thought I knew the answer fifteen minutes ago, now I'm not so sure.

    1. profile image54
      haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      sorry!!!!!!

  3. kirstenblog profile image78
    kirstenblogposted 7 years ago

    With so many religions I suspect there is no hope in them either! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!

    Not like it matters how you live your life, it's all down to which building you worship in and which rituals and spiritual politics you subscribe to. Pick the wrong one and your DOOMED! *spooky voice*

    roll

    1. profile image54
      haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      No man is a island, we need each other, why is it you done want to help, just complain, because I want to.

      1. kirstenblog profile image78
        kirstenblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        No man is an island but any man who cannot stand on his own two feet will always be in the control of other people. Sadly other people tend to be corrupted when they have the type of power over another that control gives. I thank goodness I am a woman then lol

  4. profile image0
    Home Girlposted 7 years ago

    God is not going to live your life for you. You have to lift your butt from your soft sofa and go and take responsibility for your actions - good or bad, and help others to do the same.

    1. kirstenblog profile image78
      kirstenblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Funny thing is you don't need God or religion to do any of these things smile

      1. Castlepaloma profile image77
        Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        There are 11% spiritual non religious groups out there. If you feel like a lone wolf who will die without the pack.

        1. kirstenblog profile image78
          kirstenblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          If you feel like a lone wolf who will die without a pack I have to wonder how thin and weak your spiritual sense of self is?

          1. profile image54
            haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            thank you, it's good to see you are wonder about another person than your self.

            1. kirstenblog profile image78
              kirstenblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              I wonder about any and every person who tries to tell me who or what God is. I wonder about anyone arrogant enough to think they know what God wants for anyone other then themselves.

              I wonder about people all the time.

    2. profile image54
      haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      But, he will direct you, I done know the direction, but, he do, let him lead you.

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        You know, that's the problem. Too many people being directed by something other than themselves. hmm

        1. kirstenblog profile image78
          kirstenblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Cagsy, you are spot on! Being directed by someone or something else shifts responsibility for actions and specifically mistakes. The devil did not make me do it any more then God did, I f*ck up just fine on my own thanks! lol

  5. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    I said it before and I will repeat myself-

    NO GOD required to understand life.

    NO GOD required to live life.

    Therefore- No God need exist.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image77
      Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Unless you are god and everyone is god, then help yourself.

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        No one is a "god", if you're thinking in the aspects of religion and the power given to such a thing.

        Yes, people have the power to be gods in their own life and that should be the real focus. No supernatural powers, just control of one's life.

        1. profile image54
          haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Now, you know that's not true, we all know that not true. stop, look, and see you life and you will know that's not true. Tell me something that is true.

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            So you are now resorting to calling me a liar.

            Get a life!

            1. kirstenblog profile image78
              kirstenblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              He knows you mind better then you do it would seem! lol

              Not at all arrogant roll

            2. profile image54
              haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

              A Liar, is a person, that tells a lie and know it a lie, do you know what you saying is a lie.

              1. Cagsil profile image61
                Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                What I am saying isn't a lie and you cannot prove it is. hmm

    2. profile image0
      Home Girlposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, and I do not belong to any group and I don't feel lonely.

      1. profile image54
        haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Tell me something that is true, I know you, if you done have God in you live then you can not be happy. There is a imitation happiness, sorry I forgot this one. So you think you are happy, therefore, you are happy.

        1. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          How would you know if someone doesn't have a god in their life that they are not happy? Are you psychic?

          Get real man. I have no god in my life and I'm just fine without it.

    3. profile image54
      haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Can you prove that,No!!!!!!!!!! I rest my case.

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Can I prove it?

        All my writing dispels the pathetic notion of a god.

        I have an entire set of hubs dedicated to character education, I have hubs dedicate to speaking the TRUTH about life.

        So please...it's been proven that there is absolutely no need or requirement of a god to either understand life or live it.

        1. profile image54
          haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Is that something I can look you in a book, to see if you are happy. One of you comment. People call me everything under sun, why done I get mad. Look at skyfire comment, your comment, read this hub I sould be mad as fire, but, I know you are not mad at me you are mad at Jesus Christ, Religion, Christian.

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I'm not mad. I rarely get mad. But, irrational statement need to be met with rationalize statement that show the irrational statements for what they are- useless nonsense.

      2. skyfire profile image74
        skyfireposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        You need god to give direction to your life ? Whole world feels sad for you.

  6. Merlin Fraser profile image77
    Merlin Fraserposted 7 years ago

    You ask a question yet to fail to clarify; Hope for Who ? 

    Believe it, or belive it not there is life outside all of the various religious sects. A world peopled by those of us who wish to think and find truth and possible enlightenment in our own way without being told what to think, say or do by others. 

    René Descartes, one of the worlds greatesr Philosophers said "I think therefore I am; or I am thinking, therefore I exist."

    Another said "The begining of wisdom starts with the statement I do not Know...."

    I chose to believe that I alone am the master of my destiny and where does that destiny lie ?  I do not know !

      However I have dedicated my life searching.

    How sad is it for someone to think they know everything because they have read the Bible or some other holy book or be told by another that God is the only answer.

    What a waste of a life !

    1. profile image54
      haj3396posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Great I like the way you put things, but, I know nothing save Jesus Christ. Let me ask you a question, If you see your brother getting ready to kill himself , would you say any thing? I understand what you are saying, but, notice what God is saying. 'Save your brother"

      1. Merlin Fraser profile image77
        Merlin Fraserposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I'm sorry but I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make.


        It would not have to be my brother threatening to kill himself it could be anyone, and of course I would say something, not only that but try my best to help.

        But that is because that is the right thing to do, it is the way I was brought up, I don't feel I need a God to tell me what is right.

        I would offer my hand to any who need it, no matter who they were.

  7. profile image0
    Home Girlposted 7 years ago

    I live without god or religion. No one, just may be idiots or completely insensitive people can be permanently happy. We all have our ups and downs. We get sick, our relatives die, we have accidents, we lose friends, money, homes, out trust to certain people. But we cannot live with fear of being punished by god or smb.else, we have to have strength of our own within us and most people do. We have to believe into us as human beings to achieve a lot and contribute to it. I am very happy when my friends or family share their joy or achievement with me, I am very happy when I manage to achieve something myself.
    When I was a 9 years old girl, one starry night I went outside and looking into that vast abyss above me,I cried: "Dear god, or whoever it is, please, take my healthy legs and give it to my little brother, I want him to be healthy. I can use a wheel chair, let him run and play." My little brother was paralysed and could not walk and I loved him so much!
    The big dark sky never gave me an answer. My little brother never walked. I never prayed anymore.
    If we want our life to be better we have to work for that here, now, at this moment while we are still alive.

 
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