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   faithnate12posted 13 years ago

   when we talk about faith, we are driving at someone who is reliance. reliance is one who is confidence trust hope reliable with anything, people as well. what is faith by the way? an evidence of substance of things hope for and are not seem.substance: a meaninful idea that can be trust, trustworthy as well, eg: she just give me a substance of speech.we all has to play a big rols in christianity also, how can we play rol in  christian in life, as jesus said and i quote love your neighbro as yourselve. sharing the Good news readind a stories book, explianing to them. telling them what is good to do and bad also from now i stop if you wanna to know or read about how you can learn God words please feels free to comment, question.

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      Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, it would appear that is exactly what believers emphatically do, tell us how to live, what is right and what is wrong based on their own set of doctrine. They themselves fail to see the dilemma they've created when they can't even agree on each others version of good and bad.
      
      All we have seen from religious faith is fanaticism and zealotry, conflict and wars, division and hatred, and a society crafted to living the myths and superstitions of ages gone by.
      
      As long as there is religious faith, there will always be people telling us what to do.

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         aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You sound just like Mark!
         Are you his understudy?
         Or is HE your's. :lol;
         
         You just showed yourself to be guilty of the same thing you accuse Christians of. (Telling others how to live.....your way is best of course).
         
         That's called hypocrisy, by most definitions. Don't you agree?

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Considering that the vast majority of your posts show you fabricate stories to support your irrational beliefs, from where did you fabricate the story that I am telling people how to live?

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      getitriteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      I can't really understand WHAT you are trying to say.

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         peterxdunnposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         'Have faith' simply means shut up and do as you are told - don't ask any awkward questions - do as I say, not as I do. The faithful are just dupes.

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         qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I'm with you getit, I didn't understand a word of that. Maybe English isn't his/her native language eh?
         lol  whew!

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            peterxdunnposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            There seems to be quite a few writers for whom English isn't a first language here on Hub Pages. This begs the question: what kind of impression does this make on the 'surfer' or casual visitor to this domain? Will it be a case of, 'Wow - that was great - I'm coming back here again,' or, 'Didn't understand a word of that - this place sucks.'

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               qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Peter:
               Wouldn't a simple: "English is not my native language" statement make things a bit more understandable and acceptable?
               It certainly would for me.
               Qwark

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   brotheryochananposted 13 years ago

   lol
   This is why certain people cannot understand the bible. This simple paragraph has all these "mighty thinkers" stumped.
   
   I understood it.....
   but i like that you can't
   
   i will email instead lol
   
   enjoy.
   i like the way you don't tolerate people trying english. Very higher moraled and kind. People might leave hubpages because some people are pr_cks.

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      qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Brother:
      You understand the bible? REALLY?
      Pls explain this to me.
      Why are their currently more than 40,000 sects of protestantism worldwide and they all "understand" the bible?
      Wait, wait...CAtholicism adamantly claims that they are the only ones who understand the bible!
      Oh I see, you are the 40,001th! Got'cha!
      ROTFLMAO!
      Qwark

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         exorterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I have known many Catholics none have claimed to be the only denomination that understand the Bible. I will visit other churches, I do not care what the name over the door is, as long as they preach from the Bible.
         If I do not agree with every thing that is said, then I will question them, because it is time for discussions

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            qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Exort:
            Chat with a priest.
            It'll become crystal clear that they "know" that they "have it right."
            Qwark

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               exorterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I have, wanted to discuss baptism versus sprinkling of water, but talked about many things.

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                  brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  baptism by immersion is scriptural only at an age where the participant realizes what the baptism is all about.
                  
                  baptism by sprinkling is catholic and is not biblical at any age prior to an age where the participant understands what the baptism is all about.
                  
                  the key is in the greek word structure of a king james bible (none other will do)

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                     exorterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Moses was instructed to sprinkle water on the people for purification, the religious leaders was instructed to do the same, they even sprinkled water for healing.
                     the New Testament says to sprinkle the blood of Jesus on people, so sprinkling is biblical.
                     when or if I Baptize, it will be putting the people under the water and not sprinkling,
                     A true Christian is not to Judge, so I do not believe any one should speak about the catholics being wrong, we are not to speak against our brothers, and the word says all who has faith in Christ Jesus is the children of God.
                     all Gods children are brothers and sisters in Christ

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                        pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        So did it work?

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                           exorterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           they cured leprosy by sprinkling of water

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                              pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Cool!

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         brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         LOL this has been answered so many times.
         read some hubs bub
         and don't forget you have an understanding too, that i understand is quite way out there, so far in fact you feel alone with it.
         enjoy

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            qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Brother:
            It had never been answered in a form other than opinion.
            Since you seem to be so "knowledgeable" about my question, do ya think ya might stoop to my level of ignorance to try to provide a "logical," well reasoned answer?
            Oh yes, my "thinking" and philosophy is light years beyong the inanity of thought of those, primitive thinkers, that believe in supernatural divinities.
            Sit back, bub, have a cuppa coffee and let your fertile mind attack and conquer the intent of my question. Then Once ya have it in well reasoned and logical form, I'd appreciate an answer that isn't, arrogantly, condescending.
            Can ya handle that request? If it's beyond your unlimited, intellectual abilities, you can take a pass on it.
            Go for it bud!
            Qwark

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               brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               This is qwark right?
               then NO

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                  qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Brother:
                  As I thought. I expected this response. Logic and reason are the antithesis of your programming.
                  You represent well, the attitude of the "primitive" highly programmed religious bigot.
                  Regardless of the monotheistic sect, the level of religious fanaticism you exhibit is comparable to that which has been responsible for over 2000 yrs of human degradation, pain, suffering and death.
                  You seem to have a "Talibanish" dedication to myth and superstition.
                  You and your ilk are scary!
                  I have added you to my list of those who are not credible and/or worthy of consideration or response.
                  tsk, tsk.
                  Qwark

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      Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      _____________
      You know the bible? And live for God?

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         brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         lol did i not reprove you previously, paul hater.

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            Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

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            You would have to be my elder to reprove me.
            Because I know Paul was a false prophet does not mean I hate him. I hate no one.
            
            You claim to know God, must I reprove you for the email you sent me a few months ago? I kept it because my husband instructed me to.

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               brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               only one email.. gee sorry to offend had i have followed it up there might have been something to it that perhaps you could read into like you have pauls letters.
               I really don't agree that paul is a false prophet and i doubt i ever will. But that is whatever it is.
               jesus recruiting paul was brilliant and i don't just mean the shiny light.
               I don't see where it says anything in scripture about only elders reproving others.. reproving is not a church function solely for elders. I wonder where you got that from but never mind you are where you are and i am where i am in God.
               enjoy

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   faithnate12posted 13 years ago

   its not only understanding the Bible, there are lots of people out there, they read the Bible and misinterpret its.  is it  all about how you serve follow his will now remember in the Bible, the rules of sinner and wicked previal. now listen to this,they are exalted for  a little while, but are gone and brough low; they're taken out of the way as all others ,  and cut off as the tops of the ears of corn.and if it be not so now, who will make me a liars, and make my speech nothing worth? then answer bil'-dad the shu'-hite, and said Dominion and fear are with him, he maketh peace in his high places. what do you thinks of that?

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      qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      FAithnate:
      Beats me!
      Check the 40,000+ protestant sects, maybe what you believe matches one of theirs and you can join in...hallellulja!
      If not? You may be the 40,002nd!
      How about that?
      Wow! Think of the opportunities that await you:...THE SEEKER!
      Qwark   :-)

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   The range of religionists is amazing!
   
   From snake handlers, to tongue talkers to fakers, exorcists, devil chasers, spirit hunters. They all have one thing in common.
   They mistake fantasy for reality.
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5_fdbHb9kQ

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      Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It’s the voice of reason; it scares the hell out of me

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      brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Is this you?
      then how does this pertain to any part of a discussion?
      Oh yes this seems out of place and darned right wrong. Ask those people. Perhaps this is a stepping stone to something else. Perhaps these people are overboard. What causes people to go overboard. Huge belief. God can bring that down a notch or two if he has too. Perhaps they are drunk with self power and God can't reach them.
      Such inference is unecessary in debate. We know not why this occurs and we cannnot offer up correct opinion only slighted criticism and wrong diagnosis.
      They seem happy
      Others do not
      whas dat all about?

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   zzronposted 13 years ago

   Faith is believing in something not yet seen.
   

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      Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Who's that happy hippy?

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   Jeramiposted 13 years ago

   Beelzedad wrote:
   Yes, it would appear that is exactly what believers emphatically do, tell us how to live, what is right and what is wrong based on their own set of doctrine. They themselves fail to see the dilemma they've created when they can't even agree on each others version of good and bad.
   
   All we have seen from religious faith is fanaticism and zealotry, conflict and wars, division and hatred, and a society crafted to living the myths and superstitions of ages gone by.
   
   As long as there is religious faith, there will always be people telling us what to do.
   
   
   
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   It seems that you have just described the behaviors of humanity from all walks of life.
   
      Of course it is only a small percentage that behave that way; But if these individuals were taken out of the system there will always be someone to take their place.
     Just like in the case of drug lords and dealers.
     It seems that humanity will never be able to cleanse itself of , hypocrisy, greed,selfishness and deception under its own power.
   
     It will require an outside force to do so.

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps it's not meant to be cleansed for the moment. Sometimes there is usefulness in opposites. A kind of balance in a dual world.
      
      I think looking outside ourselves is where we have gone wrong in the past. Our resulting behaviors originate from within therefore it makes perfect sense the change will need to come from within. Instead we look for an outside force to undo what we did.

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Diversity is a good thing.
         Diversity is a bad thing.
         
           Since this struggle between THIS good thing vs bad thing seems to be part of a plan?  It has to have a purpose and an end result?   something ...that can not be seen from our prospective.  You would think?

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            pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I don't know whether its part of a plan...could very well be?
            
            Perhaps the struggle is not so much the 'thing' (good or bad) but has more do to with the way in which we perceive the 'thing'. Meaning, perhaps the 'thing' is neither good or bad but whatever our minds say it is, it is and the struggle continues. 
            
            If it does have a purpose and an end result I do agree it would be difficult to see from our perspective.

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               Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               but  whatever our minds say it is, it is and the struggle continues.  - - -
               
                  Yes you are correct ...  and our mind perceives it according to how well it cooperates or how compatible it is with our efforts to achieve our desired outcome; whatever that might be??
               
                 or something like that.
               
               
               Gotta go ...   back in a while.

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      Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No, I have described the religious believer.
      
         
      
      Another religious believer.
      
      
      
      Getting rid of religions will clear up most of the mess. We can work on the rest of it, too.
      
       
      
      In other words, the believer gives up trying and instead prays for their invisible white knight in shining armor to save the day. Yeah, that will work.

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         If you were to enter into these forums knowing nothing about anyone here.?
         
           You would see that you do not sound as intelligent as you wish that you did.
         
            Can you please come up with some new material;  or at least make that effort?
         
            Then I might at least find your comments entertaining.

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you for your personal insult, Jerami. I'm sure you took ample time to think about it.

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   zampanoposted 13 years ago

   I'll tell you what faith is :
   
   Faith is wishing something so hard, that you end by believing that you believe it to be true.
   

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   Rastamermaidposted 13 years ago

   Faith believing in the intangible!
   
   Yes believing in something you can't touch or see but knowing it's there.
   
   You need faith in something or you will fall for anything.

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