God is the fault if you believe in God

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   OpinionDuckposted 13 years ago

   If you believe in God and that he is the creator then he alone is responsible for the millions of babies that have died before, during and shortly after birth. Also those babies that are born with defects and they are forced to live whatever life that they have with  big problems. A problem that they were not responsible for, and couldn't have done anything to deserve those handicaps, or death.
   
   If you believe that a God, I presume the biblical God created us, then his quality control department needs shaking up.
   
   This is not the same thing as investing all your money in Enron, or with Madoff and losing it all. These are a few of the things that are not within your control.
   
   If you can get past these questions, then I have many more.

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      Anesidoraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Any man who believes in it and has within him a decent, throbbing heart, will surely go insane. -Robert Ingersoll.

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It is a marvelous thing to watch those born with defects rise above there condition and still live a quality of life within their physical limitations.
      
      Like seeds that fall from a tree, not every seed takes root in the ground.
      
      If the biblical God has the power to create and destroy perhaps God decided to uncreate. Perhaps there is more to the action that cannot be understood by our finite minds and therefore making it good or bad would be pointless as we don't always see the bigger picture.

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         OpinionDuckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Would you want to trade places with one of these babies?
         The thing is that they didn't ask to be born with a major defect, and they did nothing to deserve it.

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            Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Hey Duck,
            
            You would be correct that the babies did nothing to deserve it. However, it would be nice if the two people who created the baby(not a god, but two humans) were responsible enough and honest with themselves to begin with.
            
            Birth defects come from irresponsible humans. Not a god.

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               OpinionDuckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I disagree if you believe that God is the creator, then God came up with a bad genetic system.
               
               Also defects skip generations, and it wouldn't be known to the potential parents would the result of them having a baby would produce.
               
               Sure there are cases where the parents did drugs, or something else to produce a baby with defects, but that is not the fault of the baby.
               
               Parents can have several children and maybe only one of them would have any defects, so we can't blame the parents.
               
               Sometimes it is the hospitals, doctors, nurses or someone else that causes a problem for the baby.
               
               My point is that a creator has the responsibility of creating things that are flawed, whether at birth, or throughout their existence.

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               Baileybearposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               that's incorrect.  Parents don't have to be drug addicts to produce a baby with no brain etc.  How would you like to be judged like that if you were a responsible person that had a child with a severe birth defect?

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            pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            How do you know that? Do you see the bigger picture? The variables that make one come into existence?
            
            If that is how I was born and was raised by my mum the way she has raised me, I would be counting my blessings just as I do now except I would be limited in what I can physically do. The mind is a very powerful thing. We can accept its power and use it for good no matter where we are at.

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               OpinionDuckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               That is true, but what about those babies that died still born, or shortly after their birth, or within a few years of their birth.
               
               The creator did a better job with insects.

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                  pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Depends on the variables.
                  
                  An insect will not live if the environment does not nurture its growth. A seedling will not take root either if the environment does not nurture growth.
                  
                  Nature is governed by laws we are still discovering.  Changing those laws (if we could) might mean life as we know it cannot be supported.
                  
                  In your opinion should natures laws be changed when a baby is in the womb of her/his mum or when it is born? Or should the womb that carries the baby be prepared the best way it can to nurture growth?
                  
                  If the variables which are for the most part largely unknown do not support the growth of a child then the laws that exist do what it does indiscriminately. No amount of preparation will prepare anyone for the loss because there is little we understand about the process.
                  
                  It is an extremely sad event when death of an unborn child  or young child occurs and what is even sadder is not many of us know how to prevent these events from happening.

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                     OpinionDuckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     We are talking about God as the creator, and not the unknown laws of nature.
                     
                     If we were created by a God, in fact the biblical God then he did a poor job in our creation.
                     
                     If it wasn't God the creator, but just evolution or nature than we are what we are and wishing won't change it.
                     
                     Thanks

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                        pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        So you don't think God created the process of evolution and nature...Or should I say is in and of these processes?
                        
                        It is said the biblical God created "all things" would that not include evolution or nature? Or does it include only those things that are known to man? 
                        
                        If evolution and nature therefore are separate to God in your opinion, what did God create in its creation? Are we (Humans and Animals) the limit of Gods creation?

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            Ruben Riveraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            You don't know that
            
            what if we're infinite beings and some just want to experience the extreme exact opposite of who we are with limitations and restrictions. We're born we live we die what a ride.

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      paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If you mean Jesus by the term Biblical God; then sorry Jesus did not create anything. Jesus was neither god nor son of god; these creeds were invented by Paul and Church followed it.
      
      If you mean God- the one Jesus used to term God-the-Father; not mixing anything from the Trinity; then please tell me for the answer of your question.
      
      What other solution of the problem you think? Do you mean that everybody should be genius like Einstein? Please

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   Beelzedadposted 13 years ago

   Sorry, but I don't see a question in your OP.

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      OpinionDuckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Make one up

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   Jeramiposted 13 years ago

   OpinionDuck wrote ...
      If you believe that a God, I presume the biblical God created us, then his quality control department needs shaking up.
   
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      You are absolutely corect.
   
   
   
   
      We should shake up Gods quality controll department.
   
   
    
   
       Make send memo
   
   
   
   
      And send it to ourselves.

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      Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I wrote a hub related called -Capitalistic War on Mother Earth
      
      There is a generally consensus that religious works hand and hand with world politics and tooled by militarily complexities. Is it a central belief amongst the main religions that nature was created by God.

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I would think that everyone that does not rebel openly against something ...  are working hand in hand with it.
         
            Religion may be guilty of many things,  but we can't blame everything on it.

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            What I find absolutely astonishingly mind-boggling is the fact that the things religions are guilty of is irrelevant as billions line up to defend them with their lives.
            
            "What? You say that Christianity was responsible for the annihilation of several native cultures around the world? Awesome! Where do I sign up?"

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   paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

   What other solution of the problem you think? Do you mean that everybody should be genius like Einstein? Please

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Who are addressing in your post?

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         paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The OP.

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            pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Ok Thanks!

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